Hillary Clinton gets Booed at MSNBC town hall when she says Bernie Sanders 'wasn't really a Democrat - General

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;49785353]She'll be in office over my dead body. I'd rather vote for Trump than allow the biggest shill in history to become commander in chief. DNC do the right fucking thing and give Bernie the god damned nomination.[/QUOTE] as if trump wouldn't also be a shill

Really don't understand the Bernie supporters who'd pick Trump over Clinton. Like yeah, she's super slimy, but at least she's our kind of slimy. A vote for Hilary is a vote for status quo, but that's gotta be way better than Trump. Obama's not so bad right?

[QUOTE=cdr248;49785399]as if trump wouldn't also be a shill[/QUOTE] I dunno mang, he seems like a rich guy who'd do whatever the fuck he'd want. Which is probably not good.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49785263]She ain't gonna get charged with shit, since 2008 the Democrats have been [I]aching[/I] to get her in office and a few dead Americans isn't going to change that. She's pretty much a Kennedy, which as we all know will mean regardless of how terrible she is the history books are going to portray her sympathetically, maybe even fondly.[/QUOTE] that always gets me how well John was remembered especially over Robert considering how little he really did in terms of keeping his domestic policy plan.

I think it's pretty interesting that two of the absolute strongest candidates at the moment, despite technically running for the Democrats/Republicans, are absolutely hated by the establishment on their own side. I kind of want to see Sanders and Trump go on to the primaries, just to see how the hell that'll go down when neither of them have the support of their side.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49785421]I dunno mang, he seems like a rich guy who'd do whatever the fuck he'd want. Which is probably not good.[/QUOTE] That's what I'm saying

[QUOTE=Ltp0wer;49785410]Really don't understand the Bernie supporters who'd pick Trump over Clinton. Like yeah, she's super slimy, but at least she's our kind of slimy. A vote for Hilary is a vote for status quo, but that's gotta be way better than Trump. Obama's not so bad right?[/QUOTE] Do we really need another president that does absolutely nothing memorable in office beyond waggling his finger at the public whenever something happens?

Speaking as someone who voted for McCain in 2008 and didn't vote Obama in 2012, I would definitely prefer Clinton to any of the Republicans.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49785880]Do we really need another president that does absolutely nothing memorable in office beyond waggling his finger at the public whenever something happens?[/QUOTE] I don't really think it's fair to say his administration did nothing memorable. The supreme court ruling on gay marriage happened during his presidency. He shifted federal priorities from fighting marijuana to doing other things. He's been working to restore diplomatic relations with Cuba. He's helped spearhead climate change mitigation policies globally. Repealing of Don't ask don't tell. Among other things I can't remember because I kind of agree with your sentiment. I don't blame the lack of action/progress on Obama, I blame it on congress and partisan politics keeping bills from being passed. Congress has been more of joke than normal the last few years. The various shutdowns, the insane riders on bills, the filibusters, they're a joke. Obama has had to do what he could using his executive authority because congress didn't want to pass sensible bills sponsored by the whitehouse. Why do people think that Trump will be able to get stuff done when his own party can't stand him? Obama might have had to fight the republicans in congress, Trump is going to have to fight everyone.

[QUOTE=Ltp0wer;49785410]Really don't understand the Bernie supporters who'd pick Trump over Clinton. Like yeah, she's super slimy, but at least she's our kind of slimy. A vote for Hilary is a vote for status quo, but that's gotta be way better than Trump. Obama's not so bad right?[/QUOTE] You can pick between an obvious corporate whore, or a less obvious corporate whore. Either way, the next 8 years for america means "FUCK YOU" to anyone who isn't a corporation. Prepare to watch your rights to fight companies die an even faster death. It's bernie or you're fucked. [editline]21st February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Ltp0wer;49786726]I don't really think it's fair to say his administration did nothing memorable. The supreme court ruling on gay marriage happened during his presidency. [B]He shifted federal priorities from fighting marijuana to doing other things.[/B] He's been working to restore diplomatic relations with Cuba. He's helped spearhead climate change mitigation policies globally. Repealing of Don't ask don't tell. Among other things I can't remember because I kind of agree with your sentiment. I don't blame the lack of action/progress on Obama, I blame it on congress and partisan politics keeping bills from being passed. Congress has been more of joke than normal the last few years. The various shutdowns, the insane riders on bills, the filibusters, they're a joke. Obama has had to do what he could using his executive authority because congress didn't want to pass sensible bills sponsored by the whitehouse. Why do people think that Trump will be able to get stuff done when his own party can't stand him? Obama might have had to fight the republicans in congress, Trump is going to have to fight everyone.[/QUOTE] Distinctly not true. Under Obama, marijuana dispensaries have been raided at a insane increase over the bush years. Obama has been completely unfriendly towards marijuana.

[QUOTE=Ltp0wer;49786726]I don't really think it's fair to say his administration did nothing memorable. The supreme court ruling on gay marriage happened during his presidency. He shifted federal priorities from fighting marijuana to doing other things. He's been working to restore diplomatic relations with Cuba. He's helped spearhead climate change mitigation policies globally. Repealing of Don't ask don't tell. Among other things I can't remember because I kind of agree with your sentiment. I don't blame the lack of action/progress on Obama, I blame it on congress and partisan politics keeping bills from being passed. Congress has been more of joke than normal the last few years. The various shutdowns, the insane riders on bills, the filibusters, they're a joke. Obama has had to do what he could using his executive authority because congress didn't want to pass sensible bills sponsored by the whitehouse. Why do people think that Trump will be able to get stuff done when his own party can't stand him? Obama might have had to fight the republicans in congress, Trump is going to have to fight everyone.[/QUOTE] Most of that probably would have happened without Obama. He only directly had some influence with a few of those points. [editline]21st February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Ltp0wer;49785410]Really don't understand the Bernie supporters who'd pick Trump over Clinton. Like yeah, she's super slimy, but at least she's our kind of slimy. A vote for Hilary is a vote for status quo, but that's gotta be way better than Trump. Obama's not so bad right?[/QUOTE] It isn't that hard to understand. People simply have more respect for someone who says what he means more then a desire for the status quo and a person who is a open liar for personal gain.

they're both fucking demagogues but at least one of them doesn't have awful policies