Undercover Cop Tricks Autistic Student into Selling Him Weed
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[QUOTE=papaya;45346141]the only ones at my school who did were social outcasts
they weren't 'normal'.
nobody who actively uses illegal drugs can be considered normal[/QUOTE]
most of my peers smoke weed
my parents friends smoke weed
my next door neighbor smokes weed
everyone and their mother has smoked weed
the point is, weed may be illegal (in some states) but it has been very normal for a very very long time
I mean, hell, there is 5 dispensaries in the town next to mine, and only 1000 people live there! There is a reason legalization is spreading. And its already kinda legal in here California. As long as you have a medical marijuana card, which isn't hard to get, you can go buy weed from a dispensary, or grow a bit yourself, or have someone grow some for you.
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You always call it "illegal drugs" as if weed was some kind of messed up drug. While it is illegal, its like, the least harmful of any drugs out there. I think most people only consider illegal drugs to be those messed up drugs like cocain and shit like that.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;45349624]why is it somehow inherently stupider to do because of an arbitrary court ruling[/QUOTE]
weed [I]is[/I] harmful. It's illegal for a reason. Were alcohol not already historically a broadly used substance, it would also be illegal for the same reason.
It's not an arbitrary court ruling. The fact that it's prohibited by law makes it an illegal drug. There's no "oh everyone does it so it's not illegal" clause. Speeding is illegal, but most people I know have gone above the speed limit (on accident or otherwise) while driving. That doesn't make it ok.
Where is the 'so far removed from reality you're out of the ballpark and off the planet' rating when you need it?
[QUOTE=papaya;45349229]if its legal then it's not an illegal drug
if its legal then its their own fault for being stupid enough to use it. If it's illegal, then they're also breaking the law and therefore twice as stupid[/QUOTE]
Are you 12 years old or have you just never concieved a thought for yourself that didn't include the nonsensical propaganda of either your parents or your government?
I suggest taking some time alone to formulate an educated opinion that does not involve outdated after school special gibberish, so you won't look like an arrogant asshole next time.
[QUOTE=hullmar;45347790]Only in America it seems[/QUOTE]
Dude, if you're not from Tallinn or Tartu, then IDK. I myself have an acquaintance who can give me basically anything, from pot to heroin.
That's pretty fucked but with his condition and the method that officer used it won't hold up in court. His suspension from school will be a bigger issue unless he lives in an area with draconian laws.
Like around here he would of just gotten a fine or community service, but add autism along with entrapment? He would just get off with a slap on the wrist and told not to do it again.
Why would you even trust a guy who desperately goes around asking everyone he meets for any drug they can get a hold on? I would be annoyed as fuck. If someone like that showed up to a school here everyone would just laugh at him and avoid him.
[editline]10th July 2014[/editline]
Jesse i can understand but the other ones...
[QUOTE=papaya;45350317]weed [I]is[/I] harmful. It's illegal for a reason. Were alcohol not already historically a broadly used substance, it would also be illegal for the same reason.
It's not an arbitrary court ruling. The fact that it's prohibited by law makes it an illegal drug. There's no "oh everyone does it so it's not illegal" clause. Speeding is illegal, but most people I know have gone above the speed limit (on accident or otherwise) while driving. That doesn't make it ok.[/QUOTE]
if it being illegal means it absolutely must be harmful(even though FYI it isn't), then what happens when it's legalized?
does it stop being harmful the moment johnny law tells you it's okay?
[QUOTE=papaya;45350317]weed [I]is[/I] harmful. It's illegal for a reason.[/QUOTE]
Yeah man, but soda gives you diabetes and diet soda gives you Alzheimer's and cancer. We've seen in the past with prohibition that banning a substance does not help the cause of lowering use.
[quote]Were alcohol not already historically a broadly used substance, it would also be illegal for the same reason.[/quote]
Marijuana [I]is[/I] a historically used substance. Also, marijuana has been used since forever as a medicinal medicine. If you vape it, it has few to none detrimental effects against your body.
The only thing I think I agree with is that it is an illegal substance, and we can't get around that.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;45350571]if it being illegal means it absolutely must be harmful(even though FYI it isn't), then what happens when it's legalized?
does it stop being harmful the moment johnny law tells you it's okay?[/QUOTE]
of course not
it'd just be like alcohol - it's still incredibly dangerous for you and others around you if you take it.
plus, you guys have made it clear that everybody does it (which isn't true) because it's the least harmful of the illegal drugs. So, if it's legal, then everyone will just do the next 'least harmful' illegal drug, which is most likely worse. But it won't matter, cause it's ok if people do the least harmful illegal drug!
[QUOTE=papaya;45350317]weed [I]is[/I] harmful. It's illegal for a reason. Were alcohol not already historically a broadly used substance, it would also be illegal for the same reason.
It's not an arbitrary court ruling.[/QUOTE]
Except we did make alcohol illegal once and that backfired and raised the crime levels
[QUOTE=Blazedol;45350822]Except we did make alcohol illegal once and that backfired and raised the crime levels[/QUOTE]
that was taking something that was legal and widely used and making it illegal.
weed was made illegal and then 'widely used'. There's a difference.
you guys should probably stop before this goes too far off topic.
[QUOTE=papaya;45350720]of course not
it'd just be like alcohol - it's still incredibly dangerous for you and others around you if you take it.
plus, you guys have made it clear that everybody does it (which isn't true) because it's the least harmful of the illegal drugs. So, if it's legal, then everyone will just do the next 'least harmful' illegal drug, which is most likely worse. But it won't matter, cause it's ok if people do the least harmful illegal drug![/QUOTE]
You have such a grade school logic of drugs, it boggles my mind. How does anything you just said make any sense, please explain.
[QUOTE=iggy650;45350718]Yeah man, but soda gives you diabetes and diet soda gives you Alzheimer's and cancer. We've seen in the past with prohibition that banning a substance does [B]not help the cause of lowering use.[/B][/QUOTE]
This is the whole reason that you are really stupid, papaya. Just because it's illegal doesn't mean people are going to stop doing. In fact, Portugal decriminalized possession of small quantities [B]ANY[/B] drug, and drug consumption there was reduced, not increased. Use Google and you can find a lot of news supporting this. Throwing people in jail for smoking weed does hardly anything. It doesn't benefit society at all, and it certainly doesn't reduce harm. It gives people criminal records that can pretty much fuck up their life (getting a job, for example) for smoking something that does very little damage to themselves.
[QUOTE=papaya;45350902]that was taking something that was legal and widely used and making it illegal.
weed was made illegal and then 'widely used'. There's a difference.
you guys should probably stop before this goes too far off topic.[/QUOTE]
Weed was still pretty widely used before being made illegal
In fact it was only made illegal in the 20s in the UK and US
[QUOTE=papaya;45350902]that was taking something that was legal and widely used and making it illegal.
weed was made illegal and then 'widely used'. There's a difference.
you guys should probably stop before this goes too far off topic.[/QUOTE]
Sorry dude, but if you legitimately believe that this 17-year-old autist deserves jail time and a permanent scar on his record for buying what he thought was his friend some weed, you are wrong. If you believe that months of undercover cop policing to manufacture a crime in order to imprison a single handicapped teenager all written off on the public's money is a dandy use of resources, I'm kindof embarrassed.
Drug users and people effected by drug laws are not some caricature of a violent, scraggly hobo that goes around raping and stealing until he can get a fix of whatever drugs he can a hold of. They are normal people. The police's actions have served the community in absolutely zero ways by removing this kid from his parents. If charged, this will follow him for the rest of his life. It will make employment at anything other than fast food near impossible. It's real sick, honestly.
[QUOTE=papaya;45350720]of course not
it'd just be like alcohol - it's still incredibly dangerous for you and others around you if you take it.
plus, you guys have made it clear that everybody does it (which isn't true) because it's the least harmful of the illegal drugs. So, if it's legal, then everyone will just do the next 'least harmful' illegal drug, which is most likely worse. But it won't matter, cause it's ok if people do the least harmful illegal drug![/QUOTE]
But it's arguably less harmful than tobacco or alcohol. Heroin or cocain or whatever aren't.
[QUOTE=papaya;45346141]nobody who actively uses illegal drugs can be considered normal[/QUOTE]
But what if they're legal in some places and illegal in others? Are the people who use illegal drugs in places where its legal to use illegal drugs also not normal? :v:
if you read the rest of my posts, I'd said that I didn't agree with what they did to the guy in the video
I mean, there's so many high school kids (and janitors) smoking the stuff that it doesn't make sense to go for this one guy who hadn't.
[QUOTE=papaya;45351089]if you read the rest of my posts, I'd said that I didn't agree with what they did to the guy in the video
I mean, there's so many high school kids (and janitors) smoking the stuff that it doesn't make sense to go for this one guy who hadn't.[/QUOTE]
The point is that this type of thing is becoming more and more prevalent. Even if drug laws were a good idea to begin with, they are being twisted and pointed at kids, disadvantaged people and generally anyone whom the police want a reason to hassle. This happens all the time. Teenagers beginning their adult lives in jail. How is that helping anyone or anything other than the people who stand to gain money from imprisonment?
so what, we should get rid of those laws because they're [I]obviously[/I] only used to incriminate the innocent?
[QUOTE=papaya;45351197]so what, we should get rid of those laws because they're obviously [I]only[/I] used to incriminate the innocent?[/QUOTE]
No, we should get rid of those laws because they're used to incriminate the innocent, AND because they do more harm than good. I mentioned the decriminalization of drugs in Portugal. Do some reading. You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about mate. That's why so many people are responding to you and rating you dumb, because you're so incredibly misinformed that it's actually aggravating.
Papaya, you're a fruit, stop trying to think
[editline]10th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=papaya;45346141]the only ones at my school who did were social outcasts
they weren't 'normal'.
nobody who actively uses illegal drugs can be considered normal[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, do you live in a bubble?
[QUOTE=papaya;45351197]so what, we should get rid of those laws because they're [I]obviously[/I] only used to incriminate the innocent?[/QUOTE]
yes
I think we can all agree that the criminal justice system / the war on drugs is fucking retarded
[QUOTE=papaya;45350902]that was taking something that was legal and widely used and making it illegal.
weed was made illegal and then 'widely used'. There's a difference.
you guys should probably stop before this goes too far off topic.[/QUOTE]
weed was always widely used, fuck check out this quote from george washington "Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, and sow it everywhere!"
hemp literally sailed early Europeans here to begin with. early sails and rope were made using hemp.
"Cannabis hemp was legal tender (money) in most of the Americas from 1631 until the early 1800s. You could pay your taxes with cannabis hemp throughout America for over 200 years. "
[url]http://www.truthabouthemp.org/History.html[/url]
inb4 obvious but hemp is very different, you can't get high off of it (or nearly as easily) as that dankie dank bc bud. I think Columbus came with some 40 tons of hemp? It's honestly the best resource we know of for so many things but big business doesn't want us to use it
[QUOTE=zydos;45351850]inb4 obvious but hemp is very different, you can't get high off of it (or nearly as easily) as that dankie dank bc bud. I think Columbus came with some 40 tons of hemp? It's honestly the best resource we know of for so many things but big business doesn't want us to use it[/QUOTE]
tbh i blame the lumber/paper industries for that
poor kid.
[QUOTE=papaya;45346141]the only ones at my school who did were social outcasts
they weren't 'normal'.[/QUOTE]
That's a stupid thing to say. I can't imagine what a 'normal' person is to you; I'm assuming you must be a 'normal' kid. But if that's how you wish to define it, you can get fucked.
[editline]10th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=hullmar;45347790]Only in America it seems[/QUOTE]
All of North America, probably many other areas in the world too.
[editline]10th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=papaya;45349229]if its legal then it's not an illegal drug
if its legal then its their own fault for being stupid enough to use it. If it's illegal, then they're also breaking the law and therefore twice as stupid[/QUOTE]
You are proving to be one sad individual. Go ahead and don't do drugs; but don't go blasting off about how abnormal and sub par those who do are.
People who are highly opinionated to the point of needlessly imposing their beliefs, and knocking down those with opposing ideas, should not be deemed normal by any standards.
[editline]10th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=papaya;45350720]
plus, you guys have made it clear that everybody does it (which isn't true) because it's the least harmful of the illegal drugs. So, if it's legal, then everyone will just do the next 'least harmful' illegal drug, which is most likely worse. But it won't matter, cause it's ok if people do the least harmful illegal drug![/QUOTE]
Stop, your posts are worse than any drug I can think of. Are you just trolling?
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