Call of Duty®: WWII Worldwide Reveal (Twitch Live) - General

[QUOTE=Johnny Joe;52155525]I'd play the shit out of a Korean War FPS[/QUOTE] I would love a Korean War CoD, but I'm not sure if they would make one with China as one of the major enemy factions since a major chinese company now has a large stake in Activision.

i just wish they don't make the germans sound angry as fuck like they were in previous games bf1 did a good job on the VOs also hoping that the pc version will have a good port

So according to [url=http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/04/26/everything-we-know-about-call-of-duty-wwii.aspx]this article[/url]: [quote]Players do not recover health or ammo passively. You cannot simply get hit, hide behind some cover, and heal up. You need to call upon your squadmates to get health packs, ammunition, or even covering fire. This makes getting hit carry a significantly more weight than other Call of Duty titles, as taking a bullet has consequences every time.[/quote] We're going full circle here boys, all the way back to Call of Duty 1...

[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;52153496]The fact the German tanks are painted grey tells me they have little interest in historical accuracy. (+ those stukas lmao)[/QUOTE] This seems really nitpicky to me. The tanks in CoD1, UO, and CoD2 (IIRC) were grey too, but it didn't make those early titles any less great. It's not [I]that[/I] important. Personally, I just hope they don't shoe-horn in anachronistic weapon attachments and optics.

[QUOTE=Furioso;52155773]This seems really nitpicky to me. The tanks in CoD1, UO, and CoD2 (IIRC) were grey too, but it didn't make those early titles any less great. It's not [I]that[/I] important. [B]Personally, I just hope they don't shoe-horn in anachronistic weapon attachments and optics.[/B][/QUOTE] This is something I'm personally worried about, but I suspect it won't be an issue for the SP campaign. For the MP though, I fully expect them to go completely nuts and have Wehrmacht soldiers running around with Thompsons with "holographic" sights. I'd really rather it not go that route, but I would be extremely surprised if they didn't. It's a fear I share for the eventual Battlefield 1944. For whatever it's worth, in the original Call of Duty (and in old Battlefield games), weapons were faction specific if you played any of the team modes and the weapons were well balanced around that. The weapons were different, but each was good in its own way. [editline]27th April 2017[/editline] More directly on topic, I am so ready for the return of WWII games.

[QUOTE=simkas;52153902]I feel like the bigger problem with making a fps campaign where you play as germans is that they either have to make it so you're always losing, which just isn't fun in a shooter or only have you be in battles where the germans did win, in which case that ends up having you celebrating the bad guys winning.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Jim_Riley;52154148]I just want to re-emphasize this comment because it shares my exact sentiments toward why playing German focused FPS like CoD doesn't make sense. Especially if the story has to progress, you're just playing a game of inevitable failure every single time. How is that remotely fun? History says the Germans lost. [/QUOTE] Remember guys, the narrative of your character doesn't [I]have[/I] to be tied solely to the war overall. It just so happens to be that's how it's done for 99% of these war shooty games. Your character can have a personal win and leave the player feeling satisfied even if you know a few days later they get swamped by the Americans or whatever. The actual, biggest problem with playing as Germany in WW2 shooters is that [I]all[/I] WW2 shooters explore the war and only the war on a grand scale, nothing else in between. When the player only cares about the war because that's the only thing you made them care about, of course playing as the Germans is going to be a tough sell.

[QUOTE=TheMrFailz;52155306]Can we get a game that full on mucks about with one of the less gigantic wars? Like, we've engrained WW2/not-iraq/PEWPEWSPAECLAZERS into our collective retinas at this point and dear lord is it getting old. There's so much nonsense people could delve into that's still post 1900 that it's not even funny and yet all we've seen are a couple of tiny dips (notable: BLOPS2 flashback missions) and the occasional full on game (notable: MGSV:TFP) in these areas. [code] Interwar/WW2 era - USSR v. <insert pre-ww2 eastern euro nation> - Spanish civil war - Any of the Sino-Soviet border conflicts - Battles of Khalkhin Gol or any of those other small Soviet-Japanese conflicts - Battles/conflict between the Nationalist/Communist Chinese. Postwar/1950s - Korean War (Doesn't seem to get much time in the limelight. I'm sure games exist of that, but I haven't seen a modern recent one other than War Thunder's korean mission/maps(s)) - Any of the Israel vs. <the whole middle east> wars here - Cuban revolution - Any of the uprisings in the French/British/etc. colonies. 1960s - More colony uprisings - Indo-Pakistan wars - Six days war - Laos/Sudan civil wars - Not vietnam 1970s - Soviet afghan war (Technically began in 79) - Angolan civil war - Ethiopian Civil War - Yom Kippur wars - Lebanese Civil War - Western Sahara War 1980s - Soviet afghan war again - Invasion of Grenada (woo USA USA USA) - Salvadoran Civil War - Falkland wars - 1982 lebanon war - Iran-Iraq wars 1990s - Congo Wars - Gulf Wars 1 and 2: The Coalition Boogaloo - Chechen Wars 1 and 2 - Kosovo Wars - Yugoslav Wars - Bosnian wars - Somalian Wars and so on and so forth [/code] All those wars and conflicts (which isn't even an extensive list mind you, and it doesn't include >2000's conflicts), and yet we get more of the same.[/QUOTE] You missed one: Bush War Operation Dingo was basically a CoD level anyways.

Can we maybe have something different for once? Like I've played this game a hundred times already, the american underdogs fighting for freedom against a country that's been brought completely to its knees and all the men you're fighting are retirees and children. What about a game from a German, Japanese or even French perspective?

also it sucks that we're going back to WW2 in general. i know a lot of people have wanted this for awhile but, while i didn't play them, i was getting excited for the creativity and almost arena shooter-like gameplay the newer cods were bringing in. couldn't understand the hate they got, i just assumed the mainstream cod fanbase only wanted generic war shooter after generic war shooter for awhile.

On the German WW2 campaign idea you can basically rip off All Quiet on the Western Front and have the character and all their allies die. Red Orchestra 2 had a similar thing in its singleplayer where the last german mission was you holding off the soviets even though your characters were freezing and starving. [editline]26th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Jack32;52155807]Can we maybe have something different for once? Like I've played this game a hundred times already, the american underdogs fighting for freedom against a country that's been brought completely to its knees and all the men you're fighting are retirees and children. What about a game from a German, Japanese or even French perspective?[/QUOTE] How about a game from a Polish perspective where you start the game in '39 and go on through the war as a Free Forces under Britain or the Soviets? I think that could be an interesting story for any game really.

I hope they don't swap between 10 characters. Would be nice to get some fully developed characters for a change

[QUOTE=Furioso;52155773]This seems really nitpicky to me. The tanks in CoD1, UO, and CoD2 (IIRC) were grey too, but it didn't make those early titles any less great. It's not [I]that[/I] important. Personally, I just hope they don't shoe-horn in anachronistic weapon attachments and optics.[/QUOTE] For the most part, the previous CoD games had them in some sort of camo. Nitpicky or not, it's not a massive endeavor to put a different skin on a tank. And I've just seen so many low budget titles that just slap panzergrau on a tank because they cbf doing basic research that it's jarring to me.

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;52155722]So according to [url=http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/04/26/everything-we-know-about-call-of-duty-wwii.aspx]this article[/url]: We're going full circle here boys, all the way back to Call of Duty 1...[/QUOTE] I just hope they toned down enemy accuracy to compensate. Ever since CoD2, they relied way too much on all the enemies zeroing in on bullets to your face the instant you stuck your head out of cover.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52153595]Again, my dream would be to swap between the following characters. American at the Siegfried Line Brit at the Winter Line Pole during Warsaw Uprising Aussie during the Race for Rangoon German in final defense of Berlin[/QUOTE] Can the Canadians finally get representation in a WW1/2 game? :(

I'll give it a stamp of cautious optimism.

[QUOTE=redBadger;52155823]I hope they don't swap between 10 characters. Would be nice to get some fully developed characters for a change[/QUOTE] every cod they bang on about how great the characters are going to be and how you're going to love them but they fall flat every single time even the memorable ones like gaz and reznov ultimately have no real traits beyond being "cool guy you fight with". slowing down the back-to-back action missions with character building is pretty much impossible with how cod games are made

[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;52153372]My big question is, how will they include marijuana in this one, or will they?[/QUOTE] dutch hash during market garden obviously

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;52155808]also it sucks that we're going back to WW2 in general. i know a lot of people have wanted this for awhile but, while i didn't play them, i was getting excited for the creativity and almost arena shooter-like gameplay the newer cods were bringing in. couldn't understand the hate they got, i just assumed the mainstream cod fanbase only wanted generic war shooter after generic war shooter for awhile.[/QUOTE] Here's the thing, you wanna play an arena shooter? Go play an actual arena shooter like Quake or Unreal Tournament. [editline]27th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Jund;52156028]every cod they bang on about how great the characters are going to be and how you're going to love them but they fall flat every single time even the memorable ones like gaz and reznov ultimately have no real traits beyond being "cool guy you fight with". slowing down the back-to-back action missions with character building is pretty much impossible with how cod games are made[/QUOTE] Tbh, I fondly remember the characters from CoD 3 even though it got flanks for being a console only game. "Rule one, you're no good to me dead."

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;52153904]I think the guy getting pissed off at the other, to the point of punching him, for causing unnecessary casualties makes it better than simply being cut and dry. I doubt the Germans will be portrayed as sympathetic but I don't think they're going for "America hoorah! We won WWII all by ourselves!"[/QUOTE] Yea thats cute but hitting your commanding officer in the military is literally a death sentence. It wouldn't happen and it doesn't happen. It's all fantasy drama, AGAIN. [QUOTE=Hauptmann;52153909][url]http://www.gamesradar.com/call-of-duty-ww-2s-story-narrative-multiplayer-and-new-destiny-like-social-space-explained-by-the-creators/[/url][/QUOTE] Yea except it shows in the trailer a German tank crewman hopping out of his tank just to execute you. Now thats a fair portrayal of that member of the ~global cast~. Keep in mind this is Call of Duty. It's going to be groundbreaking and impactful as a styrofoam sledgehammer.

[QUOTE=ZestyLemons;52155995]Can the Canadians finally get representation in a WW1/2 game? :([/QUOTE] You played as a Canadian a few times in COD3 [editline]27th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Berman Slick;52155654]Sledgehammer Presents: The first Call of Duty game I'll play in 5 years[/QUOTE] If you can find Infinite Warfare on sale its single player is really fun

[QUOTE=Nerfmaster000;52156248] Tbh, I fondly remember the characters from CoD 3 even though it got flanks for being a console only game. "Rule one, you're no good to me dead."[/QUOTE] CoD3 is my 2nd favorite CoD campaign (Behind MW1) because the characters were so good, especially the Polish tank crew. It made playing through it on PS2 infinitely more tolerable.

[QUOTE=Araknid;52155349]lmao if you think the British and Americans are anyway near comparable to the Germans in war crimes during WW2 you are kidding yourself. British and US war crimes in the pacific basically amounted to killing Japanese soldiers trying to surrender because time and time again Japanese soldiers surrendering had been hiding grenades or something similar, aswell as a small number of rapes while occupying Japan British and US war crimes in Europe were a small number of massacres in which primarily SS were killed (aswell as Wehrmacht), again a small number of rapes (absolutely not comparable to the amount of war crimes done by Germans (including Wehrmacht)), the worst was of course Dresden. Meanwhile Germans massacred entire villages because of partisans, forced women into prostitution, widespread bombing and destruction of cities such as Warsaw and Rotterdam, extermination, a fuckload of rapes, etc US and Brits were like angels in comparison to the horrid shit the Germans did. Soviets are a different story of course.[/QUOTE] You're severely discounting how awful US and British bombing raids were during WWII. Like when they bombed Civilian quarters of Hamburg for 8 days straight and killed over 40,000, destroyed 50% of the homes there, and caused a 1 million person refugee crisis. The city burned for a long time afterwards killing more and the Allied command was aware this would happen, they even named the operation "Gomorrah" after a biblical city that was burnt to ash by God. Not to mention the millions of Germans killed post-WWII directly because of Allied occupation. It doesn't really matter which side was more evil or which side had the higher death toll, [i]everyone[/i] during WWII committed horrible acts of war that directly resulted in the death of millions of people, civilians and soldiers. Hell, even the Chinese did some horrible shit. They opened up dykes on the Yellow River to try and wash away the Japanese advance, and ended up drowning 800,000 Chinese civilians and displacing millions more.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52156541] Yea except it shows in the trailer a German tank crewman hopping out of his tank just to execute you. Now thats a fair portrayal of that member of the ~global cast~. Keep in mind this is Call of Duty. It's going to be groundbreaking and impactful as a styrofoam sledgehammer.[/QUOTE] Yeah because wanting to give more humanity to the german soldiers means forgetting that there were bad apples in the Wehrmacht as in other armies ? The scene you're talking about invalidates nothing that the devs said. You have to see more footage from the game before making a judgement.

[QUOTE=Durrsly;52156559]CoD3 is my 2nd favorite CoD campaign (Behind MW1) because the characters were so good, especially the Polish tank crew. It made playing through it on PS2 infinitely more tolerable.[/QUOTE] CoD 3 was actually really fucking good. Sure the gameplay was a bit wonky thanks to the PS2 and the hardware limitations, but the characters were really, really fun. When some of them went down, you actually felt something. The tank crew was the best part though

COD3 was also on the 360 and PS3 I had the 360 version and I remember it playing fine

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52156601]COD3 was also on the 360 and PS3 I had the 360 version and I remember it playing fine[/QUOTE] I only had it for PS2. I go back to it from time to time though, since it was my first CoD game.

Preorder is already up at alot of places too [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/476600/Call_of_Duty_WWII/?snr=1_4_4__100[/url] Steam included. Already preordered. Love me or hate me. Was already ready to preorder the moment I heard ww2 the trailer just helped that.

[QUOTE=Hauptmann;52156587]Yeah because wanting to give more humanity to the german soldiers means forgetting that there were bad apples in the Wehrmacht as in other armies ? The scene you're talking about invalidates nothing that the devs said. You have to see more footage from the game before making a judgement.[/QUOTE] My point is is that their immediate portrayal of Germans, in the first 40 seconds of gameplay they have ever shown, the first time a German is on screen during a trailer he's trying to execute you. This game probably isn't going to have an interesting and deep global cast if literally the first thing they do is portray the Germans as evil with a voiceover that calls them "ruthless". CoD, as of recently, has never been known for deep characters and good story-writing, so I don't know why I'm expecting a lot out of this game. I guess I'm just bummed out we're getting yet another fantastical AAA WWII FPS, a game we've all played before in the past, instead of something new and interesting. Instead of CoD going back and doing something new with the genre, they're just doing the same thing they've already done for the 5th time, just with better graphics.

[QUOTE=StrykerE;52155150][IMG]https://giant.gfycat.com/LazyImpossibleAuklet.gif[/IMG] Extremely brief snippet of gameplay[/QUOTE] Damn that looks slick

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52156564]Not to mention the millions of Germans killed post-WWII directly because of Allied occupation. [/QUOTE] explain please, because I'm talking about US and British instead of Soviets.