Oh Marijuana just cures epilespy, Lets Keep it a Schedule 1 Drug - General

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;43090004]I can't say I have a source. I shouldn't have said "confirmation." There's evidence for sure though, check this out: [url]http://medicalmarijuana.com/experts/expert/title.cfm?artID=65[/url] That story also sources this link that says low doses help depression but high doses worsen it: [url]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071023183937.htm[/url][/QUOTE] I wonder if webmd is a good source or not [url]http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/marijuana-use-and-its-effects[/url] It lists depression as one of it's side effects, together with some other things. But I wouldn't imagine a drug like that to be good against depression. I have been to a rehabilitation center, and they don't look too happy.

[QUOTE=gokiyono;43090177]I wonder if webmd is a good source or not [url]http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/marijuana-use-and-its-effects[/url] It lists depression as one of it's side effects, together with some other things. But I wouldn't imagine a drug like that to be good against depression. I have been to a rehabilitation center, and they don't look too happy.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure either, but I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if that were true. That does help support the claim that marijuana in high doses worsens depression. It's also different from person to person, but that's true for any drug out there. For me, personally, it helped me get through the days and that's good enough for me. Now I just do it for the fuck of it. :v:

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;43090162]That doesn't answer what I asked. There's no correlation to even suggest that marijuana increases the risk of getting lung cancer. Alls I know is smoke is bad for your lungs no matter what. But since there's no annually reported deaths by marijuana, I'm willing to bet it's extremely low-risk. And you're even at lower risk if you don't smoke tobacco or cigarettes.[/QUOTE] Smoking in general increases the risk of lung cancer. It's nonsense to say that burning marijuana and inhaling the smoke won't increase your chances of getting lung cancer. Fact is, there are a number of cancer-causing compounds in marijuana smoke. [url]http://www.ukcia.org/research/EffectsOfMarijuanaOnLungAndImmuneDefenses.php[/url] [quote]Role of Marijuana in Cancer The following lines of evidence suggest that marijuana may play an important role in the development of respiratory cancer. The tar phase of marijuana smoke, as already noted, contains many of the same carcinogenic compounds contained in tobacco smoke, induding nitrosamines, reactive aldehydes, and up to a 50 percent higher concentration of carcinogenic polycydic hydrocarbons, induding benz[a]pyrene (Hoffmann et al. 1975). Benz[a]pyrene, which has recently been shown to promote mutations in the p53 oncogene (Denissenko et al. 1996), is believed to play an important role in human cancer. One marijuana cigarette was shown by Wu and colleagues (1988) to deposit four times as much tar in the lung as a single filtered tobacco cigarette of approximately the same weight. The higher content of carcinogenic polycyclic hydrocarbons in marijuana tar and the greater deposition of marijuana tar in the lung act together to amplify exposure of the marijuana smoker to the carcinogens in the tar phase. Painting tar from marijuana smoke on the skin of mice produced lesions correlated with malignancy (Cottrell et al. 1973). Marijuana tar induced comparable numbers of mutations to those produced by tar from the same quantity of tobacco in a common bacterial assay for mutagenicity (Wehner et al. 1980). Exposure of hamster lung cell cultures to marijuana or tobacco smoke over a period of 2 years led to accelerated malignant transformation within 3-6 months of marijuana exposure compared to control (unexposed) cell cultures. Moreover, the changes in the cells exposed to marijuana smoke were more impressive than those in the tobacco-exposed cells (Leuchtenberger and Leuchtenberger 1976). Biopsies of bronchial lining tissue of habitual marijuana smokers demonstrated extensive cellular alterations, some of which may be considered premalignant. Effects of smoking both marijuana and tobacco on these cellular changes appeared to be additive (Fligiel et al. in press). Bronchial immunohistology revealed overexpression of genetic markers of lung tumor progression in smokers of marijuana (Roth et al. 1996). Preliminary findings suggest that marijuana smoke activates cytochrome P4501A1, the enzyme that converts polycyclic hydrocarbons, such as benz[a]pyrene, into active carcinogens (Roth preliminary data). Alveolar macrophages from marijuana-only smokers have reduced ability to kill tumor cell targets (Baldwin et al. 1996). Pretreatment of mice with THC for 2 weeks prior to implanting Lewis lung cancer cells (a non-small-cell immunogenic carcinoma) into the animals caused larger, faster-growing tumors, a finding that was correlated with the increased immunosuppressive cytokine produced by the tumor cells, transforming growth factor-beta (Zhu et al. 1997). These findings suggest a THC-related impairment in immune responsiveness to tumor antigens.[/quote] It goes on.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43090288]Smoking in general increases the risk of lung cancer. It's nonsense to say that burning marijuana and inhaling the smoke won't increase your chances of getting lung cancer. Fact is, there are a number of cancer-causing compounds in marijuana smoke.[/QUOTE] Have you not read a single thing I wrote? I know it increases risk of lung cancer. Not once did I argue otherwise. I even agreed. AFAIK marijuana won't increase your risk in lung cancer if you use vaporizers or ingest it in an edible form.

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;43090162]But since there's no annually reported deaths by marijuana, I'm willing to bet it's extremely low-risk.[/QUOTE] Well no shit. People die from lung cancer, not from cigarettes. There is no listing which says "Death from smoking too much X", there is "Death from X cancer". [editline]6th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;43090307]Have you not read a single thing I wrote? I know it increases risk of lung cancer. Not once did I argue otherwise. I even agreed.[/QUOTE] Oh I thought you were referring to nonsmoking as opposed to tobacco.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43090308]Oh I thought you were referring to nonsmoking as opposed to tobacco.[/QUOTE] Nah, maybe I wasn't clear. I meant it as someone who smokes solely weed is less likely to get lung cancer as opposed to someone who smokes both weed and tobacco.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43089726]Marijuana isn't a cure for depression.[/QUOTE] Then why people are doing them?

[QUOTE=Wolfz;43090396]Then why people are doing them?[/QUOTE] It's not a cure. It [i]helps.[/i] There's a difference.

Great job making yourself look like a total douchebag, wolfz. Just because I rated his dumb post dumb he saw it fit to send me a PM. [img]http://i.imgur.com/WDMGPkw.png[/img] Really helping your cause here.

When I was about 10-11 I was having complex partial seizures. Basically, I would lose consciousness and do some random movements or some sort of actions, while not realizing it. The first time I found out about it was when I was in the backseat of my mom's car and we were driving down a busy street. According to her, I suddenly blanked out, started clenching and unclenching my fists, and then took the car door and kept opening it and slamming it shut over and over in the middle of the street. I only remember becoming conscious again and seeing my parents freak out and looking at me like I had gone batshit crazy, while I was sitting there wondering why they were looking at me like that. So yeah, I took normal medication for that and after I hit about 15-16 my doctor said it had gone away. Sure enough, when I hit about 17 I spent the night at a friend's place and when I woke up my friend told me I had gone crazy and went around his house yelling and screaming and shit in my sleep. Went back to the doctor and, surprise surprise, I have Frontal Lobe Epilepsy, which basically has me sleep talk, sleep walk, thrash, scream, anything really while I'm sleeping, and I also have no idea I'm doing this until I hear about it from whoever I bothered during the night. With weed though, I sleep like a baby and I feel fully rested and never have any seizures at all. I much prefer to smoke a bit before I go to bed rather than take the medication I have because my medication always makes me feel really off and messes with my moods, so weed works even better. I guess this isn't nearly as amazing a story, but figured I'd share my experience with this sort of stuff.

yea, u can also use it for meditation

You guys are lucky. It makes me awake and alert.

i bet your teacher was thrilled to have yet another paper on legalization of weed :v:

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;43090510]You guys are lucky. It makes me awake and alert.[/QUOTE] so it's like a stimulant for u

[QUOTE=stewe231;43088042]It's going to be funny in the future when we tell them marijuana used to be illegal and nobody will believe it.[/QUOTE] I talked to a Belgian guy a few days ago and he was astonished at the fact weed was banned and illegal on the same criminal level as heroin and such in France.

[QUOTE=Wolfz;43089654]>I think >you have no idea what you are talking about. >Pharmaceutical wont go anywhere, they will get MORE money by creating THC based medicine There's already a substitute with THC it's called "medicinal marijuana"[/QUOTE] How is medical marijuana a substitute for THC when THC is the fucking active ingredient? You still have no idea on what you are talking about.

[QUOTE=Wolfz;43090542]so it's like a stimulant for u[/QUOTE] Yeah pretty much.

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;43090353]Nah, maybe I wasn't clear. I meant it as someone who smokes solely weed is less likely to get lung cancer as opposed to someone who smokes both weed and tobacco.[/QUOTE] I don't think comparing one that only smokes one of the things to one that smokes both is a good idea :v:

Since the title is bugging me, it's not a cure for Epilepsy it's just a form of treatment to dull the effects.

[QUOTE=Wolfz;43089708]Just because i have shitty title doesn't mean i don't know what i'm talking about. People will grow weed in their homes and will stop buying "anti-depressants" from the pharmacy.[/QUOTE] no, you don't have any idea what you're talking about [U]because you are ignorant[/U] [QUOTE=G-foxisus;43090034]Marijuana didn't help me with my depression at all. I felt horrible for weeks after having done it and it evoked several dormant autism spectrum disorders in me (I've tried it 4 times).[/QUOTE] weed gave you autism? are you sure? [QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;43090419]It's not a cure. It [i]helps.[/i] There's a difference.[/QUOTE] why can't people REALIZE this already? there's no cure for cancer there's no cure for depression there's no cure for HIV there's no cure for seizures There's only medicine. Medicine isn't a cure, it doesn't help everyone, [B]and everyone will have different effects.[/B] for some medicine wont do shit, for others it'll save their lives. [editline]6th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Mikkelmann;43090455]Great job making yourself look like a total douchebag, wolfz. Just because I rated his dumb post dumb he saw it fit to send me a PM. [img]http://i.imgur.com/WDMGPkw.png[/img] Really helping your cause here.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Wolfz;43090542]so it's like a stimulant for u[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Wolfz;43090496]yea, u can also use it for meditation[/QUOTE] hey dude u is not a pronoun

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NkzIpZV.png[/IMG] How mature

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;43090602]I talked to a Belgian guy a few days ago and he was astonished at the fact weed was banned and illegal on the same criminal level as heroin and such in France.[/QUOTE] that shit just aint right at all drugs should at least be fined and jailed based on how ACTUALLY DANGEROUS THEY ARE of course though, if you make weed a 800$ fine, or 16 year jailtime, it'd be very dangerous and cause people to shoot people over smuggling it the shit inside cigarettes are probably the worst drug ever made and it's illegal, and some people fucking treat it as if the drug is Mr. Rogers. But when it comes to weed, they compare it to Heroin? Cigarettes give way too much output in side effects than it gives to you, and is very, very addicting. [QUOTE=gokiyono;43092284][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NkzIpZV.png[/IMG] How mature[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Wolfz - 13 Minutes Ago arogant[/QUOTE] UPDATE: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1331252[/url] how does he not realize it's not about his title? [I]I have a dream that posters won't judged, based on the content of their title but the color, of their shitpostingposting[/I]

[QUOTE=J!NX;43092342][/QUOTE] Oh look, he even started to Jeep-Eep :v:

Wolfz probably likes to tell people he smokes pot all the time but hasn't done it once.

[QUOTE=Wolfz;43090396]Then why people are doing them?[/QUOTE] Because people swallow or smoke or inject any old shit they find. When people eat sulphur powder mixed with urine as a cure for baldness, do you really think people wouldn't smoke some overrated plant thinking it would cure them?

If I recall correctly WolfZ used to shitpost on people's visitor message pages when he got rated dumb.

I dont think this a cure, but a treatment

Cannabidiol, or CBD, also has anti-psychotic, anti-panic, and anxiolytic properties in addition to it being anti-seizure. [URL]http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/06/07/marijuana-compound-may-beat-antipsychotics-at-treating-schizophrenia/39803.html[/URL] There's been a study on how it is just as effective as prescription antipsychotics in treating schizophrenia, but without any of the side effects. There's also been plenty of anecdotal evidence of individuals with schizophrenia who have taken pure CBD and had their symptoms clear up for a good while. The only problem with it is that it is expensive right now. Kinda ironic since it is usually suggested that people with schizo or prone to developing it should stay away from cannabis. But of course these days growers tend to focus on high THC strains instead, the psychoactive compound which sometimes induces psychosis or makes it worse. CBD works to mediate THC. It's a bit of a hypocrisy on the side of the medical marijuana community that they are only focusing on high THC strains and not CBD, given the medical potential of CBD probably because it isn't psychoactive like THC is.

Cause the big focus with MMJ is cancer patients, the stuff that gets you high helps with pain and hunger better but they have been breeding high CBD plants for a while. It's been an option but only recently are we discovering its effects on epilepsy

It's painfully obvious that weed helps with depression. Just fucking smoke it. It won't help every single person, but that's mental health for you. Weed can help with anxiety too, yet some people get anxious when they're high for various reasons, it doesn't mean that it doesn't work for others. MJ for mental health issues ain't some wishful thinking hippie "old fashioned herbal remedies" snake oil scam to get baked. You'll have local doctors prescribe it once they're eventually allowed to.