[QUOTE=Obnobs;40776460]It's his YT character that's an asshole. If you want to see him less obnoxious, see his channel tjdoeslife.[/QUOTE]
No, arguably his YouTube character is less of a shitbag than he is irl
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40776140]Well, he's obviously retarded, how does that even relate to that shit?
Tj is not sexist he's for equality[/QUOTE]
there is literally no distinction between egalitarianism and feminism that is not directly fabricated
I can't possibly take what he said in those post seriously, it doesn't fit his character, when he talks about rape in his videos, he never said shit like those quotes in his videos, ok?
If I only knew his opinions on things by those quotes then yes he would be a horrible human being.
but he just never says those things.
whenever he talks about rape, he says that it's a horrible thing, that the rape will affect the victim to the rest of their lives, he doesn't justify it.
so I don't know of the validity of those quotes but it just doesn't seem to be him.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;40776769]No, arguably his YouTube character is less of a shitbag than he is irl[/QUOTE]
How so?
I watched about halfway through the thing and won't watch further, he's so far largely correct, [B]however[/B]
the original "blog post" he's "refuting" is simply stupid on it's own, but not because it's feminist, but because it sounds like a 15 year old did it as homework for their class.
It's as if he shredded a preschooler in a quantum physics debate for half an hour and acted as if he deserves major academical recognition.
Yeah, these are some dumb points, you are right AA. But that doesn't invalidate the movement as a whole in the slightest, and you should be ashamed for picking a completely invalid target for your critique.
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40777055]I can't possibly take what he said in those post seriously, it doesn't fit his character, when he talks about rape in his videos, he never said shit like those quotes in his videos, ok?
If I only knew his opinions on things by those quotes then yes he would be a horrible human being.
but he just never says those things.
whenever he talks about rape, he says that it's a horrible thing, that the rape will affect the victim to the rest of their lives, he doesn't justify it.
so I don't know of the validity of those quotes but it just doesn't seem to be him.[/QUOTE]
tAA later apologized for the things he said to that rape victim on Reddit, so he must have meant what he said to her. worth noting that he only said sorry [I]after[/I] everyone flipped their shit, and has continued to despise feminism since despite his apology
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40777055]I can't possibly take what he said in those post seriously, it doesn't fit his character, when he talks about rape in his videos, he never said shit like those quotes in his videos, ok?
If I only knew his opinions on things by those quotes then yes he would be a horrible human being.
but he just never says those things.
whenever he talks about rape, he says that it's a horrible thing, that the rape will affect the victim to the rest of their lives, he doesn't justify it.
so I don't know of the validity of those quotes but it just doesn't seem to be him.[/QUOTE]
He literally does say these things and it's all proven that he has said these things.
We're the ones who can't take the video seriously because it's so well known that he's a scumbag, and it's hard to think he's being sincere when he says that rape is an awful thing. He only seems to care when it's to support his argument.
Besides, so much of the video is just "yeah this is bad, but feminism can't possibly fix this so what's the point in trying?" which is a shitty way of looking at things
FP flip flops on this guy every other day.
[editline]25th May 2013[/editline]
at least i can be happy knowing mistermooth will put in the effort to show people how fucked this dude can be
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;40777194]He literally does say these things and it's all proven that he has said these things.
We're the ones who can't take the video seriously because it's so well known that he's a scumbag, and it's hard to think he's being sincere when he says that rape is an awful thing. He only seems to care when it's to support his argument.
Besides, so much of the video is just "yeah this is bad, but feminism can't possibly fix this so what's the point in trying?" which is a shitty way of looking at things[/QUOTE]
Well, look at this example then, [video=youtube;5eCnmeaoGMA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eCnmeaoGMA[/video]
Is he also doing this here to support his argument?
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;40777214]FP flip flops on this guy every other day.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's better to just blindly follow something.
[QUOTE=Cone;40777176]tAA later apologized for the things he said to that rape victim on Reddit, so he must have meant what he said to her. worth noting that he only said sorry [I]after[/I] everyone flipped their shit, and has continued to despise feminism since despite his apology[/QUOTE]
funnily enough (sadly enough?) the rape victim he intentionally tried to trigger on reddit actually turned out to be a man
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/pfejx/i_love_how_the_whiny_feminist_morality_brigade/c3p2bxu[/url]
Okay guys. Let's just accept the fact that TAA is an asshole and stop arguing about it, okay?
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40777231]Well, look at this example then, [video=youtube;5eCnmeaoGMA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eCnmeaoGMA[/video]
Is he also doing this here to support his argument?[/QUOTE]
Perhaps. I still can't take this seriously because of what he said. It just sounds hypocritical, especially since he never really made a proper apology for all the rape victim-hating.
And I'm only a few minutes in and this is already pretty silly. "99.9% of people think rape is bad"? Rape is all too common for this to be true. I have my doubts that TAA even thinks rape is that bad with what he's said before. I posted about this not too long ago in another thread, but here's a South Australian study that surveyed young men (14-26) on rape: [url]http://www.shinesa.org.au/download.cfm?downloadfile=222BD59D-AE6A-448E-CC98CEFA3B3CC641&typename=dmFile&fieldname=filename[/url]. 31.7% of the men who responded thought it was OK for a guy to force a woman to have sex in one or more of the scenarios listed. It's pretty clear that there's a big issue of young men understanding consent and rape, so to say that it's not a problem because [I]everybody[/I] already knows that rape is bad is just ignorant.
[editline]26th May 2013[/editline]
It's weird to see him call other people bullies, after his video about bullying. He's right about it not being right to hit someone for telling a joke, but I found it interesting that he chose to call them bullies.
And on a somewhat unrelated note: he also seems confused about the whole rape joke thing. I think he's right about jokes being able to explore dark places to make a point, but he doesn't seem to understand that there's a difference between a rape joke and a joke about rape. Rape jokes are usually bad since they're mostly at the expense of rape victims and in some ways normalise rape. However, I think there are ways to tell jokes about rape that are more positive and show the harsh reality of rape, kinda like his black people joke near the end. It's just that these sorts of jokes are the minority, and you have to be really careful about dealing with this subject matter since you don't know who's in your audience, and since rape is so common it's almost safe to assume there could be rape victims present.
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40775519]The amazing atheist is one of the most amazing things that happened to YouTube.
He can not give a fuck and stay renegade while having very good arguments, something that's very rare.
The people that hate on him are complete morons.
the people who dislike him because of that Banana incident should watch this.
This guy is pure win.
Modern feminism is retarded and a cancer to society.[/QUOTE]
nominated for worst post 2013
also, i'm about as against to these landwhales that call themselves feminists on tumblr as the next guy but that doesn't make every feminist a terrible person. As for the modern feminist movement, why is it a "cancer"? It has every right to exist alongside the so called "Mens Rights" which in of its self is a bunch of fucking bullshit and nothing but a small collective of rabid neckbeards complaining that women hate them because they're men and throw around big words like misandry and the alike to make them feel better about themselves yet don't do anything to fix their appearance or adjust their standards.
[QUOTE=Obnobs;40776460]It's his YT character that's an asshole. If you want to see him less obnoxious, see his channel tjdoeslife.[/QUOTE]
I prefer the content on his Tjdoeslife channel and his gaming channel. His AA content is very sensationalist.
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40775775][editline]25th May 2013[/editline]
No, you didn't understand it at all.
No one plays games to objectify women, it's because you live in this delusional world where you look for things that objectify women in any possible way, if you over analyze things, everything can be objectified.
Feminists are taking things too seriously about things that no one gives a shit and shouldn't give a shit in the first place.
you didn't understand the videos at all.
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The videos that you've posted only criticized her on the donation aspect and before she created her first video.
Anyway, let's exclude that. I think that many people are criticizing her for the wrong reasons. For instance, you claim that she thinks that gamers are trying to objectify women. However, if you've watched her videos, then you'll realize that she claims that the companies/publishers/developers objectify women. She mentions that it's not of ill intent, but claims that it's lazy character development that's intended to make a quick profit. There isn't anything false about that.
The guy who made the video is an asshole sure, but the points he made were valid enough.
Feminism as it exists today is just like everything else in our society, bored and frustrated. At this point the genders equal (and yes there are disparities) to the point that any infraction is more abstract than usual, so people are less likely to join feminism. Its been so long that they're getting bored of the stagnating way of life.
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;40778630]The videos that you've posted only criticized her on the donation aspect and before she created her first video.
Anyway, let's exclude that. I think that many people are criticizing her for the wrong reasons. For instance, you claim that she thinks that gamers are trying to objectify women. However, if you've watched her videos, then you'll realize that she claims that the companies/publishers/developers objectify women. She mentions that it's not of ill intent, but claims that it's lazy character development that's intended to make a quick profit. There isn't anything false about that.[/QUOTE]
She doesn't mention anything in regards to the companies, she thinks that people play games because they want to objectify women.
She didn't even mention anything in regards to any kind of profit, she doesn't think that those things exist, her arguments are delusional and probably manipulative as well, she has a great audience now that will make her $$$, why would she stop?
Just watch this video, so fucking stupid holy shit.
[video=youtube;XbihPTgAql4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbihPTgAql4[/video]
[QUOTE=Obnobs;40777061]How so?[/QUOTE]
Those rape victim messages are not part of his YouTube personality
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40779732]She doesn't mention anything in regards to the companies, she thinks that people play games because they want to objectify women.
She didn't even mention anything in regards to any kind of profit, she doesn't think that those things exist, her arguments are delusional and probably manipulative as well, she has a great audience now that will make her $$$, why would she stop?
Just watch this video, so fucking stupid holy shit.[/QUOTE]
I was mostly referring to her Tropes vs Women videos.
men telling other men why they shouldnt be feminists
[QUOTE=Thaard;40777233]Yeah, it's better to just blindly follow something.[/QUOTE]
that's what I was trying to say! Thanks for clarifying!
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;40779296]Feminism as it exists today is just like everything else in our society, bored and frustrated. [B]At this point the genders equal[/B] (and yes there are disparities) to the point that any infraction is more abstract than usual, so people are less likely to join feminism. Its been so long that they're getting bored of the stagnating way of life.[/QUOTE]
except in, you know, half of the world.
and even then in industrialized society there are some big gaps between the genders.
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40779732]She doesn't mention anything in regards to the companies, she thinks that people play games because they want to objectify women.
She didn't even mention anything in regards to any kind of profit, she doesn't think that those things exist, her arguments are delusional and probably manipulative as well, she has a great audience now that will make her $$$, why would she stop?
Just watch this video, so fucking stupid holy shit.
[video=youtube;XbihPTgAql4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbihPTgAql4[/video][/QUOTE]
When someone talks about positive things about a game and can only come up with stuff like how the main character is a single mother...
I'm sorry, what the hell?
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40779732]She doesn't mention anything in regards to the companies, she thinks that people play games because they want to objectify women.
She didn't even mention anything in regards to any kind of profit, she doesn't think that those things exist, her arguments are delusional and probably manipulative as well, she has a great audience now that will make her $$$, why would she stop?
Just watch this video, so fucking stupid holy shit.
[video=youtube;XbihPTgAql4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbihPTgAql4[/video][/QUOTE]
I've heard this same recycled argument from every TAA watcher and people who've seen those feminism vs. facts video. The whole basis of it is that every single feminist is represented by Anita or those "tumblr feminist". The fact of the matter is the feminist movement is not 1 group, it's a series of similar groups working towards a similar goal.
anita is probably one of the worst things to happen to internet feminism because now there are people who actually think feminism is solely represented by anita.
shut the fuck up about anita, please
[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;40774368]I hope this thread doesn't blow up into a huge, awful argument.[/QUOTE]
Any thread related to the AA will be nothing but banana jokes and bickering.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/v8q0J.png[/img]
anything about TAA that doesn't involve him being taken to his nearest vet and put to sleep is a terrible thing indeed
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;40776221][URL]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/TheAmazingAtheist[/URL]
There you go, a fully sourced webpage showing exactly why TAA is an actual piece of shit.
My favourite bits:
and finally
it's only bad when anita does it[/QUOTE]
i just skimmed over this, but did you remember to include when he said "i'll make you a rape victim if you don't fuck off?"
oh my bad, just noticed the image posted above me.
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