[QUOTE=Doodle313;40810251]Quote me where I've said that women are inferior to men in general?
I've always said that it was muscle and Physical stamina.
I don't know Facepunch really well, but you seem to be retarded in general, also furry.[/QUOTE]
Alright brave fedora warrior. Keep up that good fight of yours.
Why listen to 33 reasons not to be a feminist from an asshole who has told a woman that she deserved to be raped?
Like, seriously, fuck this asshat.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;40812579]Why listen to 33 reasons not to be a feminist from an asshole who has told a woman that she deserved to be raped?
Like, seriously, fuck this asshat.[/QUOTE]
You could sum it all up with "I don't think anyone should be a feminist because I hate and fear women."
[QUOTE=Winters;40811960]Alright brave fedora warrior. Keep up that good fight of yours.[/QUOTE]
Well, if you're not going to respond to what I've said with an intelligent argument, you might want to not respond at all.
I expected you to answer it but since you either don't have any argument or you just think that all this talk was some kind of Joke and you're actually a troll.
gg
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=sp00ks;40812795]You could sum it all up with "I don't think anyone should be a feminist because I hate and fear women."[/QUOTE]
He's not attacking feminists as a whole in the video.
All you're doing is just looking for more things to hate on.
This retarded movement will achieve nothing in the end, they have some interesting philosophies that society could benefit from greatly.
Too bad they're too disorganized/crazy/radical to execute any of their plans.
[QUOTE=Retardation;40813306]i hate TAA as much as the next guy because he has the most obnoxious and off-putting aurora to him, the way he chooses to express himself is just vulgar buffoonery and nothing more. he also lacks the proper lexicon and diction to effectively express himself in a convincing manner. this is why he has a fairly small and isolated group of devoted followers instead of a large, widespread and ever changing online audience. he's also a dick in general.
Well I don't consider myself obnoxios
but
you guys need to actually go against his arguments rather than his appearance, the fact he shoved a fucking banana up his ass, or what he said on reddit that one time. it only further detracts from the point and it's just a waste of your time. either commit yourself to challenge him and his beliefs, or simply ignore him.[/QUOTE]
Well I don't want people to perceive me as obnoxious.
and I'm not doing it on purpose.
All I want is to have an intelligent debate instead of people calling me stupid all the time.
It really does tell you something when everyone disagrees with you and calls you stupid.
but no one here really debated so yeh ...
Am I really that vulgar?
[QUOTE=Retardation;40813509]um
are you TAA
because i was talking about TAA[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Retardation;40813306]i hate TAA [B]as much as the next guy[/B] because he has the most obnoxious and off-putting aurora to him, the way he chooses to express himself is just vulgar buffoonery and nothing more. he also lacks the proper lexicon and diction to effectively express himself in a convincing manner. this is why he has a fairly small and isolated group of devoted followers instead of a large, widespread and ever changing online audience. he's also a dick in general.
...
but
you guys need to actually go against his arguments rather than his appearance, the fact he shoved a fucking banana up his ass, or what he said on reddit that one time. it only further detracts from the point and it's just a waste of your time. either commit yourself to challenge him and his beliefs, or simply ignore him.[/QUOTE]
Is that some urban term ...?
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40813165]He's not attacking feminists as a whole in the video.
All you're doing is just looking for more things to hate on.
This retarded movement will achieve nothing in the end, they have some interesting philosophies that society could benefit from greatly.
Too bad they're too disorganized/crazy/radical to execute any of their plans.[/QUOTE]
I shouldn't be refuting this with any sort of intellectual response given you cant even grasp the basic concept of how feminism or any civil rights movement operates but I will anyway.
The hypocrisy of you trying to tell us he is not attacking feminism as a whole and proceeding calling the movement retarded is hilarious. You claim that feminism fails to operate and reach achievable goals because not everyone under the flag shares the same immediate goals. Name 1 modern civil rights movement that shared the exact same ideals throughout every member. The US civil rights movement is the most apparent example with a major divide between the methods of MLK jr. And Malcom X. Despite this divide and the extremism of Malcom X they were able to achieve at least partially their goal. The implication that a divide in ranks indicates some sort of inherent failure is either an ignorant statement or a blatant lie used to further your position.
You don't know what your talking about and thats why we call you stupid. Foreverpandering and TAA are not the proper sources to educate yourself on feminism.
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40813667]Is that some urban term ...?[/QUOTE]
It's a western saying meaning "I dislike him just like everyone else does" essentially.
I like how fp blows up like a volcano spewing hot lava in every direction whenever it starts talking about feminism..
I wonder what leads people here to care this much about it really. And no I dont mean the elitistic smartass answer (get intelectually informed" reason.
[QUOTE=Winters;40813706]I shouldn't be refuting this with any sort of intellectual response given you cant even grasp the basic concept of how feminism or any civil rights movement operates but I will anyway.
The hypocrisy of you trying to tell us he is not attacking feminism as a whole and proceeding calling the movement retarded is hilarious. You claim that feminism fails to operate and reach achievable goals because not everyone under the flag shares the same immediate goals. Name 1 modern civil rights movement that shared the exact same ideals throughout every member. The US civil rights movement is the most apparent example with a major divide between the methods of MLK jr. And Malcom X. Despite this divide and the extremism of Malcom X they were able to achieve at least partially their goal. The implication that a divide in ranks indicates some sort of inherent failure is either an ignorant statement or a blatant lie used to further your position.
You don't know what your talking about and thats why we call you stupid. Foreverpandering and TAA are not the proper sources to educate yourself on feminism.[/QUOTE]
wow that is less than what I've expected from you so you're literally pulling this out of your ass right now.
I know that they achieve something even with disorganization going on and confusion.
That response was not even targeted towards you.
I'm just saying that way in which Feminism operates today is stupid.
The first and second movements of feminism were much more powerful because they were much less radical and emotional with the execution of their plans.
Modern feminism 90-now is much worse radical and disorganized.
Not saying that they can't operate in these conditions but it's still very inefficient and it's hurting them and stopping them from achieving their goals.
If you can't understand what I've said about Atheism+, could you respond to the other post I made?
This is not debating if you're not going to go into detail and explain exactly how I'm wrong and you might want to source.
Otherwise what you're doing here is not debating, you're just stating your opinion and then you're like, "You're stupid you don't understand shit"
What you should be doing is "You're stupid and you don't understand shit [B]because ...."[/B]
[QUOTE=dass;40813760]I like how fp blows up like a volcano spewing hot lava in every direction whenever it starts talking about feminism..
I wonder what leads people here to care this much about it really. And no I dont mean the elitistic smartass answer (get intelectually informed" reason.[/QUOTE]
Everyone has their own reasons for advocating women's rights but personally having been raised by a single mother for most of my life and see her experiencing first hand the bias in the medical and buisness world along with just socially I feel a sort of desire to fight so that any young woman who has to go through the same issue as my mother can do so on equal ground.
[QUOTE=Winters;40813815]Everyone has their own reasons for advocating women's rights but personally having been raised by a single mother for most of my life and see her experiencing first hand the bias in the medical and buisness world along with just socially I feel a sort of desire to fight so that any young woman who has to go through the same issue as my mother can do so on equal ground.[/QUOTE]
Can you source any research, polls, that support this?
HAHAHA okay I'm sorry I thought you were serious doodle.
[QUOTE=Winters;40813847]Everyone has their own reasons for advocating women's rights but personally having been raised by a single mother for most of my life and seeing her experience first hand the bias in the medical and buisness world along with just socially I feel a sort of desire to fight so that any young woman who has to go through the same issue as my mother can do so on equal ground.
I also just think it's worth fighting for, all people desrve to be equal.[/QUOTE]
Double lol.
I want men and women to be equal, if we can't be biologically equal we can change that later.
I just don't think that Feminism is the answer.
Humanism/Transhumanism is.
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Winters;40813847]HAHAHA okay I'm sorry I thought you were serious doodle.[/QUOTE]
If you're not going to debate, then just stop.
[QUOTE=Winters;40813815]Everyone has their own reasons for advocating women's rights but personally having been raised by a single mother for most of my life and see her experiencing first hand the bias in the medical and buisness world along with just socially I feel a sort of desire to fight so that any young woman who has to go through the same issue as my mother can do so on equal ground.[/QUOTE]
I'm very sure not everyone here are in the same place as you.
Flame me all you want, but I bet lots of people here are either playing armchair activism, acting like smartasses, or have some kind of mentality like those mra's that always say "all women are whores, bla bla bla" but in reverse.
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40813796]wow that is less than what I've expected from you so you're literally pulling this out of your ass right now.
I know that they achieve something even with disorganization going on and confusion.
That response was not even targeted towards you.
I'm just saying that way in which Feminism operates today is stupid.
The first and second movements of feminism were much more powerful because they were much less radical and emotional with the execution of their plans.
Modern feminism 90-now is much worse radical and disorganized.
Not saying that they can't operate in these conditions but it's still very inefficient and it's hurting them and stopping them from achieving their goals.
If you can't understand what I've said about Atheism+, could you respond to the other post I made?
This is not debating if you're not going to go into detail and explain exactly how I'm wrong and you might want to source.
Otherwise what you're doing here is not debating, you're just stating your opinion and then you're like, "You're stupid you don't understand shit"
What you should be doing is "You're stupid and you don't understand shit [B]because ...."[/B][/QUOTE]
Feminism is in no way more extreme now than the movement of the 60s. Women fought and DIED in the 60s. They'd starve and mutilate themselves to send a message about their rights. Their protests and rallies were highly emotional with them striping down and burning bras in the street. You're speaking with historical ignorance.
Debating on one side is really difficult on this forum, considering that people don't actually debate and just call you names.
[QUOTE=dass;40813899]I'm very sure not everyone here are in the same place as yo.
Flame me all you want, but I bet lots of people here are either playing armchair activism, acting like smartasses, or have some kind of mentality like those mra's that always say "all women are whores, bla bla bla" but in reverse.[/QUOTE]
If you could find a serious example of the later I'd agree with you. Do you think it could possibly be these people have a strong moral desire to defend what they believe is right?
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40813875]Double lol.
I want men and women to be equal, if we can't be biologically equal we can change that later.
I just don't think that Feminism is the answer.
Humanism/Transhumanism is.[/QUOTE]
You understand the basis for feminism is gender equality right? Humanism = feminism. If you actually took time to look this shit up you'd know that though.
fem·i·nism
/ˈfeməˌnizəm/
Noun
The advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.
[QUOTE=Winters;40813970]If you could find a serious example of the later I'd agree with you. Do you think it could possibly be these people have a strong moral desire to defend what they believe is right?
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
You understand the basis for feminism is gender equality right? Humanism = feminism. If you actually took time to look this shit up you'd know that though.
fem·i·nism
/ˈfeməˌnizəm/
Noun
The advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.[/QUOTE]
Gender equality is a pointless ideal as genders are inherently unequal. I'm merely debating upon the fact that women *ARE* (and I can quite possibly back this by scientific papers) inferior to men in the physical field. What I do agree upon, however, is that politically, socially and economically there should be no difference between any sort of homo sapiens (read: human). I don't think "feminism" in it's current form is the answer. Public awareness of the social, political and economical issue you are discussing is rising and what happens with current-form feminists is that they are simply pushing things a step back. Doing things like [URL="http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/24/nsfw-photos-naked-feminist-protesters-drench-catholic-archbishop-as-he-prays-quietly/"]this[/URL] and [URL="http://www.mediaite.com/online/naked-feminists-to-muslims-our-boobs-will-be-stronger-than-their-stones/"]this[/URL] are excellent examples of this. Again, I'm showing extreme cases, but you're also showing extreme cases of men against equal status, aren't you?
[QUOTE=Winters;40813970]If you could find a serious example of the later I'd agree with you. Do you think it could possibly be these people have a strong moral desire to defend what they believe is right?[/QUOTE]
I'd have to pry into someone's life to respond to that, which is impossible.
Complaining about it on an internet forum of a mod of a game does nothing, ending up in just "showing off that you care about it". IMO, its FP's own Kony 201X
[QUOTE=Doodle313;40814167]Gender equality is a pointless ideal as genders are inherently unequal. I'm merely debating upon the fact that women *ARE* (and I can quite possibly back this by scientific papers) inferior to men in the physical field. What I do agree upon, however, is that politically, socially and economically there should be no difference between any sort of homo sapiens (read: human). I don't think "feminism" in it's current form is the answer. Public awareness of the social, political and economical issue you are discussing is rising and what happens with current-form feminists is that they are simply pushing things a step back. Doing things like [URL="http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/24/nsfw-photos-naked-feminist-protesters-drench-catholic-archbishop-as-he-prays-quietly/"]this[/URL] and [URL="http://www.mediaite.com/online/naked-feminists-to-muslims-our-boobs-will-be-stronger-than-their-stones/"]this[/URL] are excellent examples of this. Again, I'm showing extreme cases, but you're also showing extreme cases of men against equal status, aren't you?[/QUOTE]
I haven't shown a single example of men against equal rights? Also Femen is not a representation of feminist ideals as a whole. I'm going to go out on a pretty safe limb here and say MOST feminists do not go out and do things like that. Nonetheless what femen is doing is still less extreme than the movement of the 60s-70s
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=dass;40814199]I'd have to pry into someone's life to respond to that, which is impossible.
Complaining about it on an internet forum of a mod of a game does nothing, ending up in just "showing off that you care about it". IMO, its FP's own Kony 201X[/QUOTE]
That's your prerogative obviously but I was finally convinced to become a feminist tried and true because of a post on facepunch so obviously it can change people's view points. If you feel it does not serve a purpose just avoid threads like these. Whats the point of coming in here to complain about something you feel is pointless? Isn't that a bit hypocritical of you?
[QUOTE=Winters;40814221]I haven't shown a single example of men against equal rights? Also Femen is not a representation of feminist ideals as a whole. I'm going to go out on a pretty safe limb here and say MOST feminists do not go out and do things like that. Nonetheless what femen is doing is still less extreme than the movement of the 60s-70s
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
That's your prerogative obviously but I was finally convinced to become a feminist tried and true because of a post on facepunch so obviously it can change people's view points. If you feel it does not serve a purpose just avoid threads like these. Whats the point of coming in here to complain about something you feel is pointless? Isn't that a bit hypocritical of you?[/QUOTE]
Changing a few opinions on a forum =/= changing the opinions of the whole world. Specially on FP...
I really see it as Fp's Kony.
[QUOTE=dass;40814390]Changing a few opinions on a forum =/= changing the opinions of the whole world. Specially on FP...
I really see it as Fp's Kony.[/QUOTE]
My goal is not to change the worlds view. For some changing just one person's view is enough.
[QUOTE=dass;40813760]I like how fp blows up like a volcano spewing hot lava in every direction whenever it starts talking about feminism..
I wonder what leads people here to care this much about it really. And no I dont mean the elitistic smartass answer (get intelectually informed" reason.[/QUOTE]
I like how you come into every thread about feminism and whine about how much you don't care
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;40814539]I like how you come into every thread about feminism and whine about how much you don't care[/QUOTE]
And I like it how people here like to actively show that they care about things people with more reasons to think about it dont even bother themselves with.
If you do care, please stop whining about it towards other people on a forum and go do more than that instead of doing the equivalent of buying an action kit. All I see happening is people insulting each other and saying "lol here comes biotruthz" and that sums up what happens in 100% of the threads about this.
you should commentate on every thread
[QUOTE=dass;40814654]If you do care, please stop whining about it towards other people on a forum [/QUOTE]
Yeah guys, stop discussing things on a forum!
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;40814689]Yeah guys, stop discussing things on a forum![/QUOTE]
Yeah we dont need reruns of obnoxious teens playing good guy activist from 9 to 10.
[QUOTE=dass;40814793]Yeah we dont need reruns of obnoxious teens playing good guy activist from 9 to 10.[/QUOTE]
Well thank God you're here to stand up to the Sanius Squad
[QUOTE=dass;40814793]Yeah we dont need reruns of obnoxious teens playing good guy activist from 9 to 10.[/QUOTE]
This is coming from the guy who comes to everyone one of these threads to play obnoxious complainer. We get it you dont like it, just stop fucking looking at these threads. Its not hard.
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
You're acting just as high and mighty as the people you are going on about.
[QUOTE=Winters;40814954]This is coming from the guy who comes to everyone one of these threads to play obnoxious complainer. We get it you dont like it, just stop fucking looking at these threads. Its not hard.
[editline]28th May 2013[/editline]
You're acting just as high and mighty as the people you are going on about.[/QUOTE]
At least I dont shove it on everyone's face on how "I totally really care" about it.
And fyi, I dint show up on every thread, unlike the sanius squad, made of people who care so nuch about the cause that they just talk about it on a forum for a mod.
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