Mark Hamill- "I can’t believe how intensely people bashed the prequels" - General

I like political intrigue and whatnot, so watching Palpatine slowly erode the Republic from within, until almost instantaneously forming the Empire at the end is just amazing. The visuals are also incredible, especially in Phantom Menace(best seen in the Duel of the Fates). The crispness of the lightsabers, paired with the character designs and set designs is just too good; and all this is in the [I]worst[/I] film of the prequel trilogy(although I personally hold it higher than Attack of the Clones). [video=youtube;yHqdESArkqU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHqdESArkqU[/video]

[QUOTE=booster;52977510]I still have no idea what the phantom menace is about.[/QUOTE] trade disputes

the prequels weren't the worst thing in the world it was actually really fucking cool to have a star wars not set in a fucking desert coruscant is fucking awesome

[QUOTE=Wafflemonstr;52977919]I like political intrigue and whatnot, so watching Palpatine slowly erode the Republic from within, until almost instantaneously forming the Empire at the end is just amazing. The visuals are also incredible, especially in Phantom Menace(best seen in the Duel of the Fates). The crispness of the lightsabers, paired with the character designs and set designs is just too good; and all this is in the [I]worst[/I] film of the prequel trilogy(although I personally hold it higher than Attack of the Clones). [video=youtube;yHqdESArkqU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHqdESArkqU[/video][/QUOTE] I don't know what political intrigue you're talking about, because Palpatine is like, overtly evil 100% of the time and his plans make no sense and rely on about like fifty different coincidences. I hate to parrot RLM, but even in the Phantom Menace, the Trade Federation guy's plans, which made no sense, apparently didn't involve pointing fingers constantly once they were caught.

[QUOTE=Zeos;52977933]I don't know what political intrigue you're talking about, because Palpatine is like, overtly evil 100% of the time and his plans make no sense and rely on about like fifty different coincidences. I hate to parrot RLM, but even in the Phantom Menace, the Trade Federation guy's plans, which made no sense, apparently didn't involve pointing fingers constantly once they were caught.[/QUOTE] It doesn't make much sense in the first film, asides from the whole trade war maiming the Republic's power and influence; but the second and especially the third film, do a good job of building up to Palpatine's takeover.

[QUOTE=Ezhik;52977923]the prequels weren't the worst thing in the world it was actually really fucking cool to have a star wars not set in a fucking desert coruscant is fucking awesome[/QUOTE] If you totally ignore the ice planet, the forest planet, the swamp that Yoda was living in, the city above the clouds....

To me the Prequels will forever be that part of the story where some cool, promising characters are introduced but simultaneously drown in the sheer amount of garbage which surrounds them.

It's hard to sit through the prequels with an exception for episode 3 for me nowadays despite growing up with them, but I still appreciate them in terms of expanding the universe with video games and other non-movie related works like the Clone Wars series, both the 2D and 3D ones and prequel memes are probably one of the best things that ever came out of them years later

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;52977740]Yes, I can't prevent you from liking awful movies. If you enjoy the phantom menace, more power to you - doesn't mean it ain't bad.[/QUOTE] Just because the movie (or any piece of art) is something you don't like and people agree with you, doesn't mean other people can't find value in it. You can like a thing and recognize its shortcomings, doesn't mean you "like awful movies". That just sounds awfully patronizing.

I'll take RotS over[sp]Star Wars: the Last Quip.[/sp]But in general hindsight, the prequels were apart of my childhood and I can't really give in to bashing them as others. Though I can never really give AotC a pass, it's quite hard to get through.

I liked the prequels, probably because i grew with them. But even after that I still like them thanks to all the cheesiness they have, EP III being my favorite. I also really loved the art direction and all those ships and whatever thing more Its like the same reason reason why I loved the old Expanded Universe so much, it was so fucking balls to the wall insane and sometimes it gets so fucking dark I loved it. Like Did you know that Emperor Palpatine owned farms in differents planets to produce some high quality Coffee for the Empire? Yeah it gets that dumb

The only thing that makes me think "why?" about the prequels was what determines a force user, and that was an asspull

It makes me sad because I love the clone trooper & droid aesthetics.

I think [I]both[/I] trilogies suck and Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars is the only good Star Wars

[QUOTE=pyschomc;52978089]The only thing that makes me think "why?" about the prequels was what determines a force user, and that was an asspull[/QUOTE] I thought the point of midiclorians and all that shite was just making a way too obvious reason for Qui-Gon to be like "that boy has a really high power level". It doesnt make them a good addition though

Tbh the christmas special is the only star wars for me man

[QUOTE=pyschomc;52978089]The only thing that makes me think "why?" about the prequels was what determines a force user, and that was an asspull[/QUOTE] I like to think Qui-Gon was just making up some bullshit to stealthily get a blood sample from Anakin so he could check if he was his drunken one night stand son.

[QUOTE=booster;52977510]I still have no idea what the phantom menace is about.[/QUOTE] neither did george lucas

the prequels are so hard to follow and terrible, there feels like there is no actual characterization in it

If you think the prequels are okay then try watching them now. They are incredibly poorly written films and the over-reliance on early 2000's CGI in almost every scene filmed has not aged well at all. If I wanted to be really generous I'd say Revenge of the Sith is [I]okay[/I].

I'm most upset that Karen Traviss got fucked by the retconning, right before she was gonna finish her series. Her series (republic commando) was a great look inside a clone troopers life and the various dilemmas they faced, along with bringing up some interesting qualms and disputes with the classical jedi way of life. that, and her depiction of mandalorian culture (and their planet) felt perfect. [editline]15th December 2017[/editline] only good thing to come out of the prequels was the barest concepts for those books

I'd take the prequels over the Disney movies any day, coming from someone who has watched both. The former may have been half baked but it's clear there was still heart despite George's attempt at mechanizing. The Disney movies are soulless, made solely for gaining the most money possible. They don't try anything new and their plot points are so blatantly obvious that the subversion was [sp]Dropping all of them and killing off the teased bad guy[/sp].

why is kyle there

Prequels with Chinese bootleg subs are better than original trilogy.

If they didn't kill Maul and Anakin had an actual personality besides being a bipolar soyboy the films would actually feel like something For real Maul has easily the best villain design of most series. He should be died in 2's end or the start of 3 and they should have cut the political crap out, since that's not what Star Wars was ever about. Hell, even with politics, you could maybe have Palpatine basically lead to the death of Maul by very secretly betraying him, boom, instant political power, who the fuck would even question the man that single handedly snuffed the most deadly criminal in the galaxy. My idea of what I would do is... Episode 1 could be still about Anikan mainly and his relationship with the other characters, the film should work around establishing them as characters with a growing bond, dealing with struggles and quickly becoming close, however Quigon is killed by Maul who escapes, and in the first half of 2 the now master Obiwan, who the story will now focus on, loses site of whats important and tries to father Ani a little too strictly, Palpatine sees this weak mind and starts to subtley toy with him and convince him to his reluctance that Obiwan is over-bearing and a bad teacher, etc. He'll lay a nice little trap that'll tear them apart. He has his loyal Anikan now in his control so he screws Maul over for his own power by calling in a task force that JUST HAPPENS to know where he is to kill him and uses this newfound PR boost to manipulate the senate on an unseen scale, using a group of useful idiots working under him to really get things done. Ok cool, now you're on the third movie and everything is really starting to shape up, from here it should be pretty interesting, Anakin is under the new sith lords control and the Jedi are starting to get really really concerned, from here it just tells itself. It has the aesthetic down, it just needed a more refined script. George has great ideas he just needs someone to slap him and yell at him occasionally. Instead of hastily writing it down on a public poophole on toilet paper he should have written the script and actually think about everything in its full context, use that money to hire editors and story tellers that think like him. Focus on less than a few dozen characters at once too.

[QUOTE=booster;52977510]I still have no idea what the phantom menace is about.[/QUOTE] sandcest [editline]15th December 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=paindoc;52978526]I'm most upset that Karen Traviss got fucked by the retconning, right before she was gonna finish her series. Her series (republic commando) was a great look inside a clone troopers life and the various dilemmas they faced, along with bringing up some interesting qualms and disputes with the classical jedi way of life. that, and her depiction of mandalorian culture (and their planet) felt perfect. [editline]15th December 2017[/editline] only good thing to come out of the prequels was the barest concepts for those books[/QUOTE] She is one of the worst writers of all time.

[QUOTE=Lime-alicious;52978000]Just because the movie (or any piece of art) is something you don't like and people agree with you, doesn't mean other people can't find value in it. You can like a thing and recognize its shortcomings, doesn't mean you "like awful movies". That just sounds awfully patronizing.[/QUOTE] Well I guess if you like watching the room (for whatever reason), you like an awful movie? What's so patronizing about that? Are you arguing that no awful movies exist because there might be people out there who "recognize their shortcomings" and like them anyway? Is this just about respecting their feelings or what? I don't really get it. Some movies are really bad, and just because some people can ignore major parts of the products because some things were good or cool, doesn't mean that those movies aren't still bad.

I personally prefer the theme of the prequels compared to the original trilogy. Also the TV show "The Clone Wars" is brutal and shows much more of the worlds/races/culture while "Rebels" is literally new base.....we da rebellion. Clones vs CIS > Rebels vs Empire.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;52978315]If you think the prequels are okay then try watching them now. They are incredibly poorly written films and the over-reliance on early 2000's CGI in almost every scene filmed has not aged well at all. If I wanted to be really generous I'd say Revenge of the Sith is [I]okay[/I].[/QUOTE] I just watched them last week and tbh I still like them and think they’re OK.

only star wars film u should care about is caravan of courage an ewok adventure