Transgender gets death threats from leftist hate mob - General

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;50716615]You'd have a point if this was a very short video with a statement "I got doxxed". But it's more than that. the entire video, two of them, were completely thrown out of the window cause it's "alt-right" "bullshit".[/QUOTE] Only she was thrown out for having terrible terrible views. It's not even the fact that it's alt-right, just the shit she says is absolutely fucking retarded. [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/754054446284349442[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/751816451586043904[/media] Implies her video was disliked because of his fans. Imagine if I shat on JonTron whilst spewing stupid shit and claim that my video with 2 dislikes was because of JonTron fanboys, it's a fucking joke. Shit like this is why we're so separated. alt-left thing that anything bad happens is a result of the alt-left, and vice versa. [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/751301630037938177[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/751307085086765056[/media] Argues with children, flaunts about her success every time someone attacks her. [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/752917711110361088[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/752548753698021376[/media] IMPLIES THAT THE GUY WHO DOXXED HIM REPRESENTS BLACK LIVES MATTER. [URL="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/mar/10/donald-trump-rally-black-man-sucker-punch-north-carolina-video"]It's the equivalent of saying the person who punched that man disrupting that trump rally represents the entirety of the neo-conservative movement.[/URL] Worst of all, calls them a fucking terrorist organization too, devaluing the meaning of "Terrorist" like unironically saying "worse than hitler" devalues what hitler did. [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/751290662687903744[/media] Calls anyone who doesn't like her a social justice warrior. [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/749717234361044996[/media] Generally a terrible person. I implore everyone to go on her twitter and watch some of her videos to make judgements for themselves. She was doxxed, and that's fucking terrible. No one deserves to be doxxed. To put it in her own words: [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/753810992799162369[/media] Just replace swatting with doxxing.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50716359]her being alt-right is irrelevant tbh. she's just spewing some pretty stupid shit, and that has little to do with her political alignment. idk instead of trying to create a problem where none exists, maybe talk about the fact that she was ddos'd. tbh, even then what can you say about her being doxxed? "oh the internet is terrible, people are terrible, politics are terrible" if you're really going to bring politics into the reason why no one is talking about the fact that she was doxxed, lets talk about the fact that "alt-left" feminists were doxxed and harrassed and the first response is either "deserved it" or "she's a lying bitch". do you really want to go down that road?[/QUOTE] [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning[/URL] You have really outdone yourself this time.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50718937][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning[/URL] You have really outdone yourself this time.[/QUOTE] The point of my post is to point out that politics has nothing to do with the reason why we're not discussing her doxx. It's using a fallacy on purpose to point out that it's stupid to go down that road.

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50714595] Bisexuality is wonderful and awesome, its by far the best sexuality and i woudnt want to be anything but Bi. Being gay is pretty 'out in the open' and i know a lot of gays if given the choice would choose to be straight just to avoid all the flack but with bisexuality you can do whatever you want... the sky is the limit. You wanna blend in and secretly also dig the same gender in the porn you watch? you can do that... Wanna fuck literally everything you see? you can do that, if they consent.[/QUOTE] this is such a blatantly ignorant view of bisexuality and it outright misrepresents the issues bisexuals face. Maybe some like it, but not all do. There are tons of bisexuals out there who would rather just be gay and that's it so people would stop saying "You're just confused" or "You can't swing both ways it doesn't work like that", or god forbid someone says "You're gay but don't want to accept it". Bisexuals are ignored and everyone pretends its just them being that way out of 'attention' or 'because its cool' but that is not the case at all. saying "Wanna fuck literally everything you see?" just blends into the stereotype that bisexuals do it because they are 'perverts' but that only harms their image. Parents might even try and convince their bisexual children that they're just confused, and because no ones willing to care they never get help they may need. And why should a bisexual pretend to be something they aren't? That isn't who they are, they shouldn't have to or even want to pretend to be anything but who they are. This was the same viewpoint I had, but I realized how I was in the wrong. Bisexuality is way more than just middle schoolers saying "I'm bi" because they sound cool, it's a state of confusion and a state of not knowing your identity. [video=youtube;PPdE3rbqf_Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPdE3rbqf_Q[/video] it isn't LGT you know, it's LGBT, all parts of the machine must work together and understand one another for it to function. You can't just pretend bisexuality is cool because it'd be "convenient". Like I said though, some bisexuals will take it as a blessing, but most wont. If you're a bisexual and see it as a good thing then cool for you, but don't let your views mess it up for everyone else that's in your shoes.

first of all, infowars.com? Great start. This video is really shit. The only reason it's 16 minutes long is because they don't even talk about the actual doxxing/death threats, they're just using it to prop up their views on recent events. The least they could do is post screenshots of this twitter they keep mentioning (not that screenshots are particularly hard evidence, but I think the fact that they couldn't even put in that much effort kind of speaks for itself). I'm not doubting that a few extremists that don't represent the movement were willing to do something shitty like this, and I don't think it's something to be taken lightly; that said, I think it's kind of funny that when a so-called "SJW" makes the same claims, the alt-right calls them liars and professional victims, but now that it's one of their own it's just further proof of how terrible the "regressive left" is. Sucks that she had to deal with that stuff, but doxxing/death threat claims didn't change my perception of gamergate and it won't change my perception of BLM. Every group has bad apples, if that meant anything then the alt-right would have no room to talk.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50718937][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning[/URL] You have really outdone yourself this time.[/QUOTE] Ah yes, the good ol' smug reply with a link to a logical fallacy that does not apply to the post

[QUOTE=J!NX;50719333]this is such a blatantly ignorant view of bisexuality and it outright misrepresents the issues bisexuals face. Maybe some like it, but not all do. There are tons of bisexuals out there who would rather just be gay and that's it so people would stop saying "You're just confused" or "You can't swing both ways it doesn't work like that", or god forbid someone says "You're gay but don't want to accept it". Bisexuals are ignored and everyone pretends its just them being that way out of 'attention' or 'because its cool' but that is not the case at all. saying "Wanna fuck literally everything you see?" just blends into the stereotype that bisexuals do it because they are 'perverts' but that only harms their image. Parents might even try and convince their bisexual children that they're just confused, and because no ones willing to care they never get help they may need. And why should a bisexual pretend to be something they aren't? That isn't who they are, they shouldn't have to or even want to pretend to be anything but who they are. This was the same viewpoint I had, but I realized how I was in the wrong. Bisexuality is way more than just middle schoolers saying "I'm bi" because they sound cool, it's a state of confusion and a state of not knowing your identity. it isn't LGT you know, it's LGBT, all parts of the machine must work together and understand one another for it to function. You can't just pretend bisexuality is cool because it'd be "convenient". Like I said though, some bisexuals will take it as a blessing, but most wont. If you're a bisexual and see it as a good thing then cool for you, but don't let your views mess it up for everyone else that's in your shoes.[/QUOTE] This guy has some identity crisis where he wants his sexuality to be a pillar of it but he doesn't know exactly where he stands so it's frustrating for him? I don't get it. So you are somewhere in the middle of the spectrum. You don't need a specific label. Just live your life. Who the fuck cares where exactly on the spectrum you are.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;50720377]This guy has some identity crisis where he wants his sexuality to be a pillar of it but he doesn't know exactly where he stands so it's frustrating for him? I don't get it. So you are somewhere in the middle of the spectrum. [B]You don't need a specific label. Just live your life. Who the fuck cares where exactly on the spectrum you are.[/B][/QUOTE] The video was him realizing that he has an identity crisis, figuring shit out and finally deciding to move on with his life, and finally opening up about it, which he ended up doing about half way into the video. He admitted that he wanted to stop trying to be gay or straight and wanted to start living by 'love is love' and not 'who am I?' [editline]16th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50717422]Only she was thrown out for having terrible terrible views. It's not even the fact that it's alt-right, just the shit she says is absolutely fucking retarded. [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/754054446284349442[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/751816451586043904[/media] Implies her video was disliked because of his fans. Imagine if I shat on JonTron whilst spewing stupid shit and claim that my video with 2 dislikes was because of JonTron fanboys, it's a fucking joke. Shit like this is why we're so separated. alt-left thing that anything bad happens is a result of the alt-left, and vice versa. [/QUOTE] I wouldn't be surprised if she is right though, this is honestly a reasonable thing to say. Onision is a real piece of shit who has awful fans. I'm not flinching when I say that either, this psycho made fun of children who were mourning for that singer that was recently shot and killed, he recorded his wife/girlfriend who was legit having a mental break down instead of helping her, he's told suicidal people to kill themselves. He makes Keemstar look like Mr. Rogers. His fans are probably even worse because they support that idiot too.

[QUOTE=J!NX;50720413]I wouldn't be surprised if she is right though, this is honestly a reasonable thing to say. Onision is a real piece of shit who has awful fans. I'm not flinching when I say that either, this psycho made fun of children who were mourning for that singer that was recently shot and killed, he recorded his wife/girlfriend who was legit having a mental break down instead of helping her, he's told suicidal people to kill themselves. He makes Keemstar look like Mr. Rogers. His fans are probably even worse because they support that idiot too.[/QUOTE] To me, I don't care if he's scum of the earth. The problem is that she goes on the same level as idiots when she attacks people.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50720501]To me, I don't care if he's scum of the earth. The problem is that she goes on the same level as them when she attacks people.[/QUOTE] Fair enough I guess, she does get pretty aggressive and that can never be good though she's definitely not as bad as he can get

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50722326]What really baffles me is that people get banned in SH for posting news about sugarcane agriculture because their source is RT, whereas people commit mass braincell genocide in Videos and nothing gets done. I am neither suggesting ban all altright or allow RT. Just something I found weird.[/QUOTE] It's a difference of standards. SH wants you to use an at least mostly reputable source, Videos is pretty much just post videos you want to share with people (within a few limits).

I find it a bit weird how Blaire is really disliked here, yet Shoeonhead is loved. They're really good friends and their content is actually quite similar.

[QUOTE=SpartanApples;50722971]I find it a bit weird how Blaire is really disliked here, yet Shoeonhead is loved. They're really good friends and their content is actually quite similar.[/QUOTE] I think that it's more that there is predictable number of people that will practically derail a topic over minutia. I remember a thread involving a transgender person being stabbed and it was like 5 pages of discussion on pronouns and practically 3 posts on the fact that they were stabbed.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50723039]Who loves shoeonhead?[/QUOTE] I just remember that last thread that got made about her was pretty well received, perhaps I'm mistaken.

[QUOTE=SpartanApples;50722971]I find it a bit weird how Blaire is really disliked here, yet Shoeonhead is loved. They're really good friends and their content is actually quite similar.[/QUOTE] I think it's mostly down to people who support shoeonhead post first, and the positive atmosphere gets established early on, and people who don't like the videos don't bother to stir up shit by posting their opinions

What I really don't understand about the whole transgender issue is the difficulty some people make in not offending people. Simultaneously some people reject the gender binary and claim that they are on the other side. I.E. "Women shouldn't have to act a certain way!" and "I look / [B]act[/B] like a woman so [B]treat me like a woman[/B]" Either reject the gender binary or don't. Nobody but you understand your personal halfsies opinion of gender identity. [editline]16th July 2016[/editline] As far as I'm aware, all scientific analysis of gender and sexuality shows it as a scale between two points (not a binary, but also not an infinite spectrum), why don't people treat this stuff more like that?

[QUOTE=Radical_ed;50723686][DEL]Nobody but you[/DEL] [B]I don't[/B] understand your [DEL]personal halfsies[/DEL] [B]scientifically recognized as correct [/B]opinion of gender identity [B]and things I don't understand make me mad[/B][/QUOTE]

Oh Jesus - not this fucking argument again. Anybody can be transgender if they want to, I have no problem with it. All I ask is to keep the government out of this.

[QUOTE=Mining Bill;50724102]stuff[/QUOTE] I'm not mad at all, It's pretty clear you didn't read my post. The personal halfies I'm talking about is the incongruity between saying that 1.) we should treat all people the same (gender related) and 2.) we should treat transgender individuals like their gender A lot of people are somewhere on this spectrum of not wanting to be treated a certain way because of their gender (gender equality) and wanting to be treated "like their gender", which is definitely a personal balance for the individual. Example: In my college, I held open a door for an individual I also happen to know transitioned mtf. They got upset at me because of this ("pff, women don't need your help"). [editline]17th July 2016[/editline] but no go ahead keep lashing out at people who you think disagree with you because it makes you feel better, that'll definitely help you out.

[QUOTE=Radical_ed;50724275]I'm not mad at all, It's pretty clear you didn't read my post. The personal halfies I'm talking about is the incongruity between saying that 1.) we should treat all people the same (gender related) and 2.) we should treat transgender individuals like their gender A lot of people are somewhere on this spectrum of not wanting to be treated a certain way because of their gender (gender equality) and wanting to be treated "like their gender", which is definitely a personal balance for the individual. Example: In my college, I held open a door for an individual I also happen to know transitioned mtf. They got upset at me because of this ("pff, women don't need your help"). [editline]17th July 2016[/editline] but no go ahead keep lashing out at people who you think disagree with you because it makes you feel better, that'll definitely help you out.[/QUOTE] I think precisely that the mistake is you might be making is that you are literally treating persons "like their gender". I mean, I hope people argee that gender roles are performative, what is considered female/male are characteristics that looks different in different cultures and has changed historically. Treating individuals before their gender is to me, annoying, dangerous and unnecessary. It excludes or includes too many people in a generalized thinking matter, imprinting a binary view that is male/female. Stuff like those raised as men should "act tough" thereby not openly showing certain feelings and those who identify as women treated the opposite. I've heard of people who are trans that they experienced a distressing contrast, sexism, between how they were treated before or after. Perhaps realizing they are being suddenly treated differently as a person, only because of their gender, annoys that person you opened the door for.

[QUOTE=Mooe94;50724573]I think precisely that the mistake is you might be making is that you are literally treating persons "like their gender". I mean, I hope people argee that gender roles are performative, what is considered female/male are characteristics that looks different in different cultures and has changed historically. Treating individuals before their gender is to me, annoying, dangerous and unnecessary. It excludes or includes too many people in a generalized thinking matter, imprinting a binary view that is male/female. Stuff like those raised as men should "act tough" thereby not openly showing certain feelings and those who identify as women treated the opposite. I've heard of people who are trans that they experienced a distressing contrast, sexism, between how they were treated before or after. Perhaps realizing they are being suddenly treated differently as a person, only because of their gender, annoys that person you opened the door for.[/QUOTE] I open the door for everyone and I don't treat anyone "like their gender" (intentionally), but many people want to be treated "like their gender" and any semblance of interaction which indicates gender bias sets these people off. I'm commenting on how hard it is to NOT piss someone off, I.E. when you are doing a small kindness like holding open the door for them, meanwhile someone else might be offended that you DIDN'T do that. It's almost impossible to not step on toes any more.

All I am going to say is that it's just funny: In an ideal world, Blaire and the rest of the social-justice movement would all be on the same side.