[QUOTE=Jund;26349900]Skip to the 5 minute mark and tell me that he isn't just shitting on religion.[/QUOTE]
and they are all good points.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;26349888]science is a way of finding answers, some people use it for dumb things.
and I would say the bad things religion has done are way more then the good things.
but either way it doesnt matter if religion helped or hurt humans because now its hurting and now its not logical or useful[/QUOTE]
Of course people who are "wrong" should be forced to only believe what is "right" because them being "wrong" means the end of the world.
Fuck ending world hunger and finding political peace. Converting everyone to atheism is top priority.
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;26349908]Religion helps people. Faith helps people. When you think good you feel good, or something like that.
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Yeah, I want to find more videos like this. Inspiring ingenious stuff.[/QUOTE]you dont need religion to feel good, many other things could do that but religion is the only thing that causes hatred of gays and keeping people dumb
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;26349913]and they are all good points.[/QUOTE]
I would list all the atrocities and stupidities of science but then I would die before I'm done.
[QUOTE=Jund;26349928]Of course people who are "wrong" should be forced to only believe what is "right" because them being "wrong"means the end of the world.
Fuck ending world hunger and finding political peace. Converting everyone to atheism is top priority.[/QUOTE]
what? I never said people should be forced to believe what right im saying though that things that are wrong should be called out on it
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;26349930]you dont need religion to feel good, many other things could do that but religion is the [B]only thing that causes hatred of gays and keeping people dumb[/B][/QUOTE]
I'm not even going to reply anymore, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Good day sir.
[QUOTE=Jund;26349940]I would list all the atrocities and stupidities of science but then I would die before I'm done.[/QUOTE]
name one stupidity of science.
science is a way of figuring out what is right or not. nothing more
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[QUOTE=Jund;26349949]I'm not even going to reply anymore, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Good day sir.[/QUOTE]
what? religion is kind of the only reason why gays are hated
Aw man, I was hoping we'd continue to have this intelligent conversation.
No offense, but typical of the religious person to just say "Screw you guys, I'm going home."
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;26349997]Aw man, I was hoping we'd continue to have this intelligent conversation.
No offense, but typical of the religious person to just say "Screw you guys, I'm going home."[/QUOTE]
I could see if I was calling him names and saying all christians were dumb apes, but all i did was respond to a comment he made and some how im a bad person
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;26349997]Aw man, I was hoping we'd continue to have this intelligent conversation.
No offense, but typical of the religious person to just say "Screw you guys, I'm going home."[/QUOTE]
I'm atheist
[QUOTE=Jund;26350041]I'm atheist[/QUOTE]
So then aren't you just debating for fun then?
That's what I'm doing.
I enjoy playing devil's advocate, but I'm not right now.
Watch more of his videos.:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbrQI0r1B7w&feature=related[/url]
The beginning is boring, but the end is almost as epic as this.
After explaining fire and talking about hell: "You're not going to burn if you die. If we go anywhere after death, we go there without our atoms."
Religion demands you believe in what it says, it threatens you, it yells at you, it bribes you.
Science tells you what it knows, it's up to you to act on what it tells you.
I know which side I'm on, and I'm not moving an inch.
[QUOTE=Jund;26342129]So it's okay for atheists to do it?
If a Christian leaves me alone, then who am I to tell him he's ignorant and blind? Why the fuck should I care?[/QUOTE]
but they don't
they try and take over political and scientific matters
[QUOTE=Jund;26349940]I would list all the atrocities and stupidities of science but then I would die before I'm done.[/QUOTE]
Science doesn't commit atrocities or stupidities. Human beings do. Science is an understanding of the universe we live in that cites and lists observable facts or theorems held up by other facts in an ongoing pursuit of knowledge. Religion has been, and will always be, a speedbump. It's an amalgamation of bullshit, pseudo-facts, outdated information, lying, finger-pointing, and name-calling that once existed to explain the world but has since been outdated by science. Good things rarely come of religion; Bigotry, hatred, factions, war, murder, death, destruction, misinformation, ignorance, intolerance, oppression and arrogance. The man in the video did not argue FOR atheism, he argued AGAINST religion. Having a god, and being part of a religion are different things, and that's something he pointed out "Wouldn't your god WANT you to see this, to understand this, to try and make sense of this? (paraphrase)". Atrocities are committed under the guise of religion every single day on this planet, and it's about time it ended. I detest religious institution.
Wow, all his videos are so good...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFQwsP0xdz8&feature=related[/url]
I'll stop posting them now.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;26350120]Religion demands you believe in what it says, it threatens you, it yells at you, it bribes you.
Science tells you what it knows, it's up to you to act on what it tells you.
I know which side I'm on, and I'm not moving an inch.[/QUOTE]
I'm not debating which side is better nor for which side I believe in, I'm debating whether or not this guy should be respected because to me he's just a huge hypocrite.
[QUOTE=Jund;26349928]Fuck ending world hunger and finding political peace. Converting everyone to atheism is top priority.[/QUOTE]
Converting people in third world countries isn't helping solve world hunger either. A lot of political problems are caused by religion, Jews fighting with Islams.
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;26350245]Converting people in third world countries isn't helping solve world hunger either. A lot of political problems are caused by religion, Jews fighting with Islams.[/QUOTE]
What?
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I swear half of your posts I read don't even make sense.
[QUOTE=Jund;26350260]What?
[editline]28th November 2010[/editline]
I swear half of your posts I read don't even make sense.[/QUOTE]
It made perfect sense. Converting third world countries doesn't help shit, Israel (Jews) have been fighting with Muslims for years over some stupid bullshit called "The Holy Land" (you know, that thing The Crusades were about?).
[QUOTE=Jund;26350243] because to me he's just a huge hypocrite.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure you know what "hypocrite" means.
[QUOTE=yuki;26350296]It made perfect sense. Converting third world countries doesn't help shit, Israel (Jews) have been fighting with Muslims for years over some stupid bullshit called "The Holy Land" (you know, that thing The Crusades were about?).
I'm not sure you know what "hypocrite" means.[/QUOTE]
I was unaware the Crusades took place in mid/south Africa. I'm not sure [I]you[/I] know what hypocrite means.
having less religion means having more scientific people which is better for everyone
Having no video games means more productivity and healthier lifestyles. Should we ban video games?
[QUOTE=Jund;26350420]Having no video games means more productivity and healthier lifestyles. Should we ban video games?[/QUOTE]
why do you keep on thinking i want to ban religion?
I just want people to think logical so that way there is less hate and less time being wasted on useless stuf when they could be used helping humanity instead of hider it
Unrelated but: Does anyone understand this? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u42Y3RbP7JE&feature=related[/url]
I didn't want to make a new thread for this.
[QUOTE=Errorproxy;26350486]Unrelated but: Does anyone understand this? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u42Y3RbP7JE&feature=related[/url]
I didn't want to make a new thread for this.[/QUOTE]
the paradox was solved about 6 months ago but i cant remember what they said.
the reason i think its not true is because since it goes the same speed the whole time and since every have way point takes less time to get past and since you cant have an infinite amount of halway points at one time it should take the same amount of time no matter how many halfway points you have
[QUOTE=Jund;26350343]I was unaware the Crusades took place in mid/south Africa. I'm not sure [I]you[/I] know what hypocrite means.[/QUOTE]
South Africa? What the hell?
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;26350449]why do you keep on thinking i want to ban religion?
I just want people to think logical so that way there is less hate and less time being wasted on useless stuf when they could be used helping humanity instead of hider it[/QUOTE]
Video games hinder humanity, but I bet you won't like it if someone posts why video games are bad and should not be played.
[QUOTE=Jund;26350552]Video games hinder humanity, but I bet you won't like it if someone posts why video games are bad and should not be played.[/QUOTE]
first explain why they hinder humanity and why taking them out would help.
lets say that videogames could just as easily be replaced with something that is just as fun to the videogame player but more helpful then i would tell videogame players to do that
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