[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53043229][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdD5Pe9e2cM[/media]
holy. shit.[/QUOTE]
Oh man, the extra video he posted on his personal website (see the description of that video for the link) that shows it tried on a mouse.
Ho-lee shit, the bang was immense, that mouse straight up lobotomied itself with a blank. :wow:
[QUOTE=redBadger;53037156]If mice populations were left uncontrolled the human population would probably be wiped out.
You can thank cats for this.[/QUOTE]
You can also thank cats for causing massive and dangerous destruction of bird populations as well.
[editline]12th January 2018[/editline]
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53038160]Mice getting on glueboards usually don't last long. Just like getting in a repeater trap, they basically panic themselves to death and keel over pretty quick. I've done 24hr follow ups on places and find mice on glueboards to be dead and cold. It's not the most humane death but it's not as cruel as the humane society makes it out to be.
Theres no way to kill a mouse 100% humanely and maintain a pest free building.
Snap traps seem to be all well and good but I've had rats only get limbs or tails caught in them, and then they gnaw said limbs off to get free from it. I've also found dead mice in repeater traps with crushed spines from getting caught in a snap trap partially and getting free. And with snap traps, they'll only catch one mouse (or 2 if you're [i]really[/i] lucky), so they're not an effective means of long term control.
Repeater traps are great but if you get more than one mouse in there, they'll either get hungry or territorial and start eating each other. I hate servicing grain elevators in the summer and fall because my repeater traps are always just mush piles of dead mice who've killed eachother, then rotted, then became breeding grounds for flies.
Using poison works great, but it makes them bleed out internally as most rodenticide is a blood thinner, so not exactly painless either.
[editline]9th January 2018[/editline]
Him letting the mice live is a good reason why he's having issues with them moving in his house in the fall.[/QUOTE]
Do you have any experience with the CO2 gas traps that went viral a few months ago? It was this really interesting concept of a "smart trap" that gassed the mouse with CO2 or something. Seemed expensive, gimmicky and dumb but I'm mildly curious if anyone has actually used them.
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;53047441]
Do you have any experience with the CO2 gas traps that went viral a few months ago? It was this really interesting concept of a "smart trap" that gassed the mouse with CO2 or something. Seemed expensive, gimmicky and dumb but I'm mildly curious if anyone has actually used them.[/QUOTE]
You said it; expensive gimmicky and dumb.
Those are great if you want to kill just one mouse in the most slow and expensive way possible. Theres no practical use for them.
The best mouse trap thats ever been made is the JTeaton repeater. Electric mouse traps, gas, humane, or any other gimmicks will ever replace the classic tin cat.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;53047716]The modified dunk trap this guy made seems to be the best in my mind. Simple and cheap, self resetting and massive capacity. Only maintenance needed is emptying, refilling and baiting.
I bet if you modified it somehow to have a bait the mice couldn’t eat (maybe something barred off or a purely scent based bait?) you could have a trap you could leave alone for a week and catch a hundred or more mice no problem. Only downside would be the nastiness you’d have to clear out of the bucket. :sick:[/QUOTE]
The best mouse traps don't need bait. Easiest way to use a snap trap is without bait.
Mice are very static in their movement and where they go. When a mouse enters a building, the first thing they do is find a place to hide and scope things out. Repeaters are great for that because if you set them next to a door or entry point, first thing they do is go inside your trap.
Mice also have pathways they religiously follow, which is generally right up next to the floorboard of a wall since they've got horrible vision. You can set a snap trap up against it without bait and have a dead mouse in the morning unless theyre snap shy.
And if you're catching a hundred or more mice in a week, traps ain't gonna solve your problem. You're best ofd burning your house down and building a new one.
He recently recreated another old mousetrap.
[video=youtube;oM09ZgY2qPM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM09ZgY2qPM[/video]
[QUOTE=nerdster409;53052612]He recently recreated another old mousetrap.
[video=youtube;oM09ZgY2qPM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM09ZgY2qPM[/video][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=psychofox67;53036783]i love watching this guy
he should recreate this
[IMG]http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/rat-exterminator.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
He actually did it.
What a mad man
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;53037273]Yeah and he also let one grow up.
[url]https://youtu.be/CxkOvf3sd_Q[/url][/QUOTE]
Bot Nye The Maggot Fly :thinking:
[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;53052641]He actually did it.[/QUOTE]
All things considered, [sp]I think he handled it very well. He showed that he was being responsible with his firearm. Tiny part of me still wanted to see the mouse go kablooey, though.[/sp]
[QUOTE=snookypookums;53053121]All things considered, [sp]I think he handled it very well. He showed that he was being responsible with his firearm. Tiny part of me still wanted to see the mouse go kablooey, though.[/sp][/QUOTE]
well you're in luck
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1FvPMQvu3M[/media]
it's a different trap, but uses the same sort of mechanism
I was happy to see this video
[video=youtube;QSwBdVRL9AA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSwBdVRL9AA[/video]
Where he straight up says "yeah these traps are inhumane and horrible and it honestly just tortures the mouse"
I hate seeing these traps and part of me wishes they were illegal.
[QUOTE=nerdster409;53052612]He recently recreated another old mousetrap.
[video=youtube;oM09ZgY2qPM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM09ZgY2qPM[/video][/QUOTE]
that ending
[video]https://youtu.be/EHXgsXF0auQ[/video]
[QUOTE=Extronic;53036736]apparently all the mice traps he reviews are 427 years old
[/QUOTE]
I wonder what happened to all the mice in 1590
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;53053492]I was happy to see this video
[video=youtube;QSwBdVRL9AA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSwBdVRL9AA[/video]
Where he straight up says "yeah these traps are inhumane and horrible and it honestly just tortures the mouse"
I hate seeing these traps and part of me wishes they were illegal.[/QUOTE]
Catching rodents would be a lot tougher without glue boards.
Its no less humane than blood thinner rodenticide making them bleed to death from the inside, or tracking powder that bubbles in their gut and pops their digestive system.
Not having your pests die 100% humanely 100% of the time is the price you pay for not having rat shit in your food.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53054044]Catching rodents would be a lot tougher without glue boards.
Its no less humane than blood thinner rodenticide making them bleed to death from the inside, or tracking powder that bubbles in their gut and pops their digestive system.
Not having your pests die 100% humanely 100% of the time is the price you pay for not having rat shit in your food.[/QUOTE]
But this trap was maybe the least effective trap i've seen. There are so many traps which are more effective by a factor of 10 and kill fast/doesnt hurt the rodent
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53054044]Catching rodents would be a lot tougher without glue boards.
Its no less humane than blood thinner rodenticide making them bleed to death from the inside, or tracking powder that bubbles in their gut and pops their digestive system.
Not having your pests die 100% humanely 100% of the time is the price you pay for not having rat shit in your food.[/QUOTE]
1080 the shit out of everything
just make sure you don't get any of it in you though cause if you do you're fucked
[QUOTE=Str4fe;53054151]But this trap was maybe the least effective trap i've seen. There are so many traps which are more effective by a factor of 10 and kill fast/doesnt hurt the rodent[/QUOTE]
[I]In this instance[/I], the trap wasn't effective. They wouldn't be a mass-market (and popular) item if consumers didn't find it effective enough to warrant making more.
That having been said, the real conflict between the choices available has little to do with the effectiveness of mice but rather, I think, on the ethical burden the trap-layer has to bear. I've used poison before - the problem was that the way the poison is supposed to work, the rat/mouse is supposed to crawl outside and die (apparently this is how they react to poison), so it makes clean up a lot easier. In reality, the little bugger dies in the wall somewhere and, well, now you have a dead rat somewhere in the walls that's stinking up your house. In my case, I didn't know that the mouse I killed was a momma mouse, so I found tiny little pink thingies coming out of the wall that turned out to be little mouse babies that I just orphaned and when I saw what I had done, I felt about an inch tall. :v:
I've tried mouse traps that ended up only bagging them by the tail or the foot/paw (which the rat then gnawed off, 127 hours style, in a bid to escape :/). And finally these sticky traps, where I found the mice has basically stressed itself to death trying to get free.
Faced with all of these, none of them presents a hundred percent chance of surefire death without suffering, so it boils down to how much you, the trap setter, is willing to inflict on the mouse that you can emotionally stomach. I'm kinda okay with not being hard enough to do the glue trap/poison ever again, but the other traps that offer a chance of an instant death via snapping the spine? I can live with that, even if there are odds that it might not work 100% of the time (except for that one mouse experience last week where the sneaky fellow managed to eat the bait off three separate traps without setting off the mechanism :v:)
[QUOTE=snookypookums;53054208][I]In this instance[/I], the trap wasn't effective. They wouldn't be a mass-market (and popular) item if consumers didn't find it effective enough to warrant making more.
That having been said, the real conflict between the choices available has little to do with the effectiveness of mice but rather, I think, on the ethical burden the trap-layer has to bear. I've used poison before - the problem was that the way the poison is supposed to work, the rat/mouse is supposed to crawl outside and die (apparently this is how they react to poison), so it makes clean up a lot easier. In reality, the little bugger dies in the wall somewhere and, well, now you have a dead rat somewhere in the walls that's stinking up your house. In my case, I didn't know that the mouse I killed was a momma mouse, so I found tiny little pink thingies coming out of the wall that turned out to be little mouse babies that I just orphaned and when I saw what I had done, I felt about an inch tall. :v:
I've tried mouse traps that ended up only bagging them by the tail or the foot/paw (which the rat then gnawed off, 127 hours style, in a bid to escape :/). And finally these sticky traps, where I found the mice has basically stressed itself to death trying to get free.
Faced with all of these, none of them presents a hundred percent chance of surefire death without suffering, so it boils down to how much you, the trap setter, is willing to inflict on the mouse that you can emotionally stomach. I'm kinda okay with not being hard enough to do the glue trap/poison ever again, but the other traps that offer a chance of an instant death via snapping the spine? I can live with that, even if there are odds that it might not work 100% of the time (except for that one mouse experience last week where the sneaky fellow managed to eat the bait off three separate traps without setting off the mechanism :v:)[/QUOTE]
The mousetrap in the OP seems extremely effective, reliable and humane against mice and the bigger version against rats. Just use that one.
[QUOTE=Str4fe;53054151]But this trap was maybe the least effective trap i've seen. There are so many traps which are more effective by a factor of 10 and kill fast/doesnt hurt the rodent[/QUOTE]
Thats because he used a 99c mouse tray with garbage adhesive. If you want to effectively catch mice, you need a rat tray glue board with better glue and a deeper base.
[editline]15th January 2018[/editline]
[QUOTE=Str4fe;53055306]The mousetrap in the OP seems extremely effective, reliable and humane against mice and the bigger version against rats. Just use that one.[/QUOTE]
Yea ya wanna know why that trap isn't in commercial use anymore? Its not because its a lost art, its because its a pain in the ass to use and reset and requires baiting.
Snap traps are great, except they catch a maximum of one mouse and if the mouse slips out of the trap (or gets horribly maimed), theyll never go near another snap trap. So after that your options are: glueboards (which you should have used in the first place).
Another added bonus of snap traps, is a rat won't fit in a mouse snap trap, and a mouse getting into a rat snap it makes a huge fucking mess. I'll omit some pictures I have, but I've had more than one customer complain about mouse guts getting flung everywhere.
The best mouse trap to use is a repeater trap. They can catch dozens of mice before getting full and theyre easy to clean. They don't need to be baited or reset either. BUT. If a mouse sneaks into a building and doesn't go into the first repeater it sees, it probably won't go into the 2nd or 50th one either. Thats why glueboards are great.
the one in the op is effective and humane. baiting and resetting is less of a concern to me than not making them suffer. if you prefer making them suffer to experiencing a mild annoyance, then you're fucked in the head.
Glue traps are terribly inhumane, but unfortunately they're also very effective and easy to set up.
[editline]16th January 2018[/editline]
I'd rather not have mice suffer, but if they're a real pest and cause thousands of dollars in damage, I just want them gone.
[QUOTE=butre;53055467]the one in the op is effective and humane. baiting and resetting is less of a concern to me than not making them suffer. if you prefer making them suffer to experiencing a mild annoyance, then you're fucked in the head.[/QUOTE]
It's effective and humane until it isn't. You'll suffer the same issues with that device as you do with snap traps. You'll eventually get a partial catch where a mouse will be maimed and suffer for hours before dying, or will gnaw their limb(s) off to escape.
It's a lot more effective to lay out a dozen glue boards than it is 50 or 60 snap traps if you've got an infestation. A rat tray will catch a dozen mice on it in a night where as a snap trap might catch one.
Too me anyway, I'd rather go out by being stuck to a glueboard for a few hours and giving myself a heart attack, rather than have my back broken in two and suffer for a few seconds/minutes in horrible pain.
[editline]16th January 2018[/editline]
Not making an argument that glueboards are humane, because they're not. But they're really fucking good at catching mice and arguably the best method to do so. My job is kinda based on how well I kill stuff, so I'm of course going to use the most effective legal means to do so.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53055511]
Not making an argument that glueboards are humane, because they're not. But they're really fucking good at catching mice and arguably the best method to do so. My job is kinda based on how well I kill stuff, so I'm of course going to use the most effective legal means to do so.[/QUOTE]
You're an exterminator?
[QUOTE=nerdster409;53055802]You're an exterminator?[/QUOTE]
Yea
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53055511]It's effective and humane until it isn't. You'll suffer the same issues with that device as you do with snap traps. You'll eventually get a partial catch where a mouse will be maimed and suffer for hours before dying, or will gnaw their limb(s) off to escape.
It's a lot more effective to lay out a dozen glue boards than it is 50 or 60 snap traps if you've got an infestation. A rat tray will catch a dozen mice on it in a night where as a snap trap might catch one.
Too me anyway, I'd rather go out by being stuck to a glueboard for a few hours and giving myself a heart attack, rather than have my back broken in two and suffer for a few seconds/minutes in horrible pain.
[editline]16th January 2018[/editline]
Not making an argument that glueboards are humane, because they're not. But they're really fucking good at catching mice and arguably the best method to do so. My job is kinda based on how well I kill stuff, so I'm of course going to use the most effective legal means to do so.[/QUOTE]
most every trap is effective and humane until it isn't. the problem is that glueboards are ineffective and inhumane every single time.
of course you're gonna get a mouse on any glue board you lay out, but it's almost never gonna be the first mouse and now you're left with a bunch of mice that will never go near a glue board again. the one in the op doesn't have this problem to anywhere near the same extent
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;53055511]It's effective and humane until it isn't. You'll suffer the same issues with that device as you do with snap traps. You'll eventually get a partial catch where a mouse will be maimed and suffer for hours before dying, or will gnaw their limb(s) off to escape.
It's a lot more effective to lay out a dozen glue boards than it is 50 or 60 snap traps if you've got an infestation. A rat tray will catch a dozen mice on it in a night where as a snap trap might catch one.
Too me anyway, I'd rather go out by being stuck to a glueboard for a few hours and giving myself a heart attack, rather than have my back broken in two and suffer for a few seconds/minutes in horrible pain.
[editline]16th January 2018[/editline]
Not making an argument that glueboards are humane, because they're not. But they're really fucking good at catching mice and arguably the best method to do so. My job is kinda based on how well I kill stuff, so I'm of course going to use the most effective legal means to do so.[/QUOTE]
The revolver is pretty effective, I'd say.
[QUOTE=butre;53056139]most every trap is effective and humane until it isn't. the problem is that glueboards are ineffective and inhumane every single time.
of course you're gonna get a mouse on any glue board you lay out, but it's almost never gonna be the first mouse and now you're left with a bunch of mice that will never go near a glue board again. the one in the op doesn't have this problem to anywhere near the same extent[/QUOTE]
Like I keep saying, thats not true. You're gonna have that problem with saltine cracker sized glue boards that have no depth to the tray and use shitty glue.
The catchmaster rat glue boards with the [b]YELLOW [/B]glue are the ones you want to use.
Rodents have extremely oily and filthy fur, and they shit all over the place, so you can tell if a rodent gets off a glueboard. With the ones I use, I've only had 4 or 5 hop off and thats because they chewed their arms off. Considering I've killed literal thousands of mice and rats with glueboards, I'd say thats a pretty good rate. I cant tell you how many times I've had snap traps pop without catching anything, or only caught a leg or tail.
You can't really tell me glueboards are ineffective every single time, when I use them almost every single day during spring-fall and catch dozens of mice on one board. My experience isn't even anecdotal. My company wouldn't spend the money to provide me with glueboards if they didn't work.
yeah they work sometimes sure, and some mouse traps are always gonna be better than others. you still haven't addressed the fact that they're horrendously inhumane.
It's hard to reconcile "they're reasonably humane" and "sometimes they cause the animal to [I]chew it's arms off[/I]"
realistically if you've got a mouse problem just get a cat
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