New SyFy Series "The Expanse" Actually Looks Interesting! - General

[QUOTE=Raidyr;49689024]The best thing the dude who played Holden has been in was 10,000 BC and it shows, painfully. Thomas Jane is killing it though. [editline]7th February 2016[/editline] from what people who have read the books say the show is actually somewhat less bleak than how it reads.[/QUOTE] Really? Well the books must be pretty goddamn bleak lol. Like, Jim Holden isn't even a likable character, he's just a controlling douche bag at any chance he gets. Yet somehow he's important to the story [sp]because the UN lady met his mother, big woop.[/sp]

From a character/writing standpoint I like how Holden keeps his crew's safety the number one priority even when it bites him in the ass but Steven Strait's acting just isn't doing it for me. He comes across as wooden when delivering most of his lines and his "angry" scenes make him seem like a child pitching a temper tantrum. It feels a lot like watching Star Wars Episode 2 Attack of the Clones with Anakin but not quite as bad. It's the only major weakness for the show personally for me so far. It almost turned me off of the series when the pilot was almost entirely him on screen.

Fair point, I may check out the books if it's just Steven Strait's shitty acting bringing the character and crew down

The book's aren't as bleak, but they have a darker tone that is only really accentuated midway through the first book. Seems to me they're trying to add a lot of unnecessary tension, because the first book was hardly tense until [sp]Eros[/sp]. Don't get me wrong, it has it's tense moments early on, but I feel as if the show hasn't quite struck the same comedic and thematic cords as the books quite yet. I'm hoping it will considering how fucked up the books get. Examples of weird additions of tension (Johnson's book 1 introduction spoiler) [sp]the entire meeting between Johnson and the Rocinante crew when they first arrive at Tycho was essentially a friendly exchange. There was no hostility whatsoever aside from a vague sense of mutual distrust. In the show, the Rocinante crew are just dumb about the entire exchange imo. I don't mind the change as it still worked thanks to Chad Coleman's performance though, so it's a "meh" from me[/sp], and (Avasarala book 2 spoilers) [sp]changing her son's death from a skiing accident to "killed by the OPA for no discernible reason". Seriously why tho[/sp] Overall, thank goodness for Thomas Jane

[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;46949959]Y'know, for a syfy thing it actually does look pretty decent. [/QUOTE] Am I the only person that liked Continuum? I thought it had a solid cast and a strong, fairly difficult to predict plot.

[QUOTE=blerb;49689631]The book's aren't as bleak, but they have a darker tone that is only really accentuated midway through the first book. Seems to me they're trying to add a lot of unnecessary tension, because the first book was hardly tense until [sp]Eros[/sp]. Don't get me wrong, it has it's tense moments early on, but I feel as if the show hasn't quite struck the same comedic and thematic cords as the books quite yet. I'm hoping it will considering how fucked up the books get. Examples of weird additions of tension (Johnson's book 1 introduction spoiler) [sp]the entire meeting between Johnson and the Rocinante crew when they first arrive at Tycho was essentially a friendly exchange. There was no hostility whatsoever aside from a vague sense of mutual distrust. In the show, the Rocinante crew are just dumb about the entire exchange imo. I don't mind the change as it still worked thanks to Chad Coleman's performance though, so it's a "meh" from me[/sp], and (Avasarala book 2 spoilers) [sp]changing her son's death from a skiing accident to "killed by the OPA for no discernible reason". Seriously why tho[/sp] Overall, thank goodness for Thomas Jane[/QUOTE] [sp]The tycho station encounter was fucking stupid. The tension goes to ELEVEN though once they hit Eros. Like the shootout? Christ, I was hyped and shaking in the lead up to that because you know its going to shit but not when its going to shit. Eros was well done. Agree that Steven Strait sucks as Holden. It just bothers me, the critiques you pointed out I agree with. His personality works better after the rad leak on Eros, but thats about it. He's less ridiculously-dedicated space captain and more sarcastic whiny brat.[/sp] Naomi is cool, tho. Amos is an awesome character, and his questionable sexuality endears me more. I forget the pilots name, but he works too when he's not trying the texas gunslinger act too hard. [editline]7th February 2016[/editline] I like the realism and hard sci-fi vibes a lot. If you guys like Hard Sci-Fi, or realistic but HUUUGE crazy sci fi, give alastair reynolds a look. Pushing Ice is his best one-off book, and the revelation space series is solid af

[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;46949959]Y'know, for a syfy thing it actually does look pretty decent. Took me a minute but I think the woman at 1:13 voices a quarian admiral in Mass Effect?[/QUOTE] Yep. She also plays the wacky modern artist patient in an episode of House. You know, in case you were wondering after a year what else she's been in.

I've gotten back into watching this after forgetting that Season 2 was released and now i remember why i was so attached to it. Just finished episode 6 of Season 2, and [sp]really eager to see more of their rendition of the proto-monster. Seeing it lumbering over the horizon after the UN Marines from Bobby's perspective was chilling for just second.[/sp]

Is this that weird series where the people on board are supposed to be the greatest minds that humanity has to offer while they behave like random high school students? The one with that scene in the first episode where there's a physicist or something who's fiddling around on a computer, and a guy comes up to him asking "Hey dude what are you doing", and he basically replies "I'M DECRYPTING PORN LOL" ?

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;52179841]Is this that weird series where the people on board are supposed to be the greatest minds that humanity has to offer while they behave like random high school students? The one with that scene in the first episode where there's a physicist or something who's fiddling around on a computer, and a guy comes up to him asking "Hey dude what are you doing", and he basically replies "I'M DECRYPTING PORN LOL" ?[/QUOTE] No?

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;52179841]Is this that weird series where the people on board are supposed to be the greatest minds that humanity has to offer while they behave like random high school students? The one with that scene in the first episode where there's a physicist or something who's fiddling around on a computer, and a guy comes up to him asking "Hey dude what are you doing", and he basically replies "I'M DECRYPTING PORN LOL" ?[/QUOTE] Not even close.

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;52179841]Is this that weird series where the people on board are supposed to be the greatest minds that humanity has to offer while they behave like random high school students? The one with that scene in the first episode where there's a physicist or something who's fiddling around on a computer, and a guy comes up to him asking "Hey dude what are you doing", and he basically replies "I'M DECRYPTING PORN LOL" ?[/QUOTE] don't know what show you're talking about but porn is a primal need. age and intellect aren't factors

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;52179841]Is this that weird series where the people on board are supposed to be the greatest minds that humanity has to offer while they behave like random high school students? The one with that scene in the first episode where there's a physicist or something who's fiddling around on a computer, and a guy comes up to him asking "Hey dude what are you doing", and he basically replies "I'M DECRYPTING PORN LOL" ?[/QUOTE] I actually think you just found the wrong show. Pretty much everyone other than 1 character is an average joe, thrust into a crazy situation.

[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;52180092]I actually think you just found the wrong show. Pretty much everyone other than 1 character is an average joe, thrust into a crazy situation.[/QUOTE] Huh. I wonder what the show I'm thinking about was called, pretty sure it only lasted one season. I'm sorry, I did absolutely no research, I just saw the date of the thread and the title and that was the first thing that popped into my head. Edit: 'Defying Gravity' is the one I was thinking about. That was back in 2009

I remember seeing this so many times on Netflix, and automatically assuming it was garbage cause 1) SyFy and 2) looked like an average, boring show. A friend recommended it, so I thought what the hell. I watched the entire first season in about a week? It was such a good show. CGI was perfect, not the usual shitty SyFy CGI I'm used to seeing. Acting was amazing, plot was interesting, atmosphere and stuff was on point. Can't wait for S2 to come out on Netflix.

Is anyone else bothered and still kinda annoyed behind Miller's [sp]reasoning for killing Dresden? Like Holden/Johnson both agreed that Eros was fucking awful but saw that Dresden was the only lunatic capable of stopping the Proto-Molecule.[/sp] I guess the other [sp]scientist guy that they brought back to Tyco can do it but Miller has just been making bad choice after bad choice recently[/sp]

[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;52181303]Is anyone else bothered and still kinda annoyed behind Miller's [sp]reasoning for killing Dresden? Like Holden/Johnson both agreed that Eros was fucking awful but saw that Dresden was the only lunatic capable of stopping the Proto-Molecule.[/sp] I guess the other [sp]scientist guy that they brought back to Tyco can do it but Miller has just been making bad choice after bad choice recently[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Miller's been a suicidal and self-destructive dead man walking since discovering Julie's body. The only thing keeping him tethered to reality was a desire for vengeance. He also explains, Dresden was starting to describe a goal that made some sense, somewhere in people's minds. Miller figured that if Dresden lived, Holden's crew, Johnson, and potentially the galaxy would gradually lose sight of the horrors of Eros and fall for his "ends justify the means" logic the way that Dresden's corporate benefactors had.[/sp]

Quite so. Not anyone here is remotely stable or thinking rationally at this point, and you can't really blame them, all things considered.

[QUOTE=DChapsfield;52181385][sp]Miller's been a suicidal and self-destructive dead man walking since discovering Julie's body. The only thing keeping him tethered to reality was a desire for vengeance. He also explains, Dresden was starting to describe a goal that made some sense, somewhere in people's minds. Miller figured that if Dresden lived, Holden's crew, Johnson, and potentially the galaxy would gradually lose sight of the horrors of Eros and fall for his "ends justify the means" logic the way that Dresden's corporate benefactors had.[/sp][/QUOTE] Ah yeah that makes alot of sense, I watched the [sp]Return to Eros episode where they plant the bombs and it really did feel like some sort of redemption episode for Miller namely the gauntlet of delivering the bomb to the seed crystal. And more importantly meeting with the rezz'd Julie and finding some sort of peace.[/sp]