How to access the Indie Games section on Xbox 360's new dashboard - General

[QUOTE=Speedstream;33635877]On top of that it seems like he paused as it showed up, like he noticed it and decided to ignore it.[/QUOTE] Which is especially strange, since he even points it out and says that that's the way you get to indie games. Curiouser and curiouser!

[QUOTE=thisispain;33633224]you're just being incredibly dramatic. the same ads on steam are also on xbox live. it definitely doesn't talk to you[/QUOTE] He's being dramatic, yeah, but he's right. I just downloaded the update and I HATE it. It is so much more ad-centric. Previously, when I booted up my console to the older NXE dashboard, it defaulted me to a section full of ads (with no option to change this). Whatever, though, because scrolling down to the next section brought me to a big box showing the title and art for the game I had in the disc tray. To the right of that was my XBL profile/Avatar (which could be selected to change profile settings), XBLA/installed games, media, and system settings. Simple, clean, and it's all the stuff I really wanted to ever use my console for. All in one section. No ads there. Now it defaults to a new tab called "Home". Home has the game I have in the disc tray in a tiny, tiny little box in the left corner with another tiny box under that for installed/XBLA games. In the center is a massive scrolling feed that displays the latest XBL Gold offer, an ad for Arkham City, telling me to visit the Marketplace, etc. To the right of that are literal advertisemets. It even says "Advertisement" under them. They're just as big as the options to actually play the games I own on the left. Beyond that, as you can see in the video, are overly complicated menus made up of varying box sizes. The actual media that I own is intermixed into countless panels of ads. Every section has an ad in it. If I want to listen to my own music or watch my own videos, I have to move over to that tab and find the tiny button that actually goes to my own media amid the ads suggesting that I go to the Marketplace to buy more media and media apps (all of which require Xbox Live Gold to use, even if the app has a paid subscription itself). Which reminds me, you also need Xbox Live Gold to use ANY of the new features they've been touting. Cloud saves? Need Gold. YouTube? Need Gold. Hulu Plus? Need Gold (on top of a Hulu Plus paid subscription). And even if you pay for Gold, none of the ads go away. None of them. The only new feature that doesn't require a Gold membership is the Bing search, and that has ads inserted into the results. I'm not even kidding; they make an entire clickable panel in the results an ad that you have to scroll over. And you're telling me Steam has the same kind of ads? Steam has options to default to your game list and to turn off the pop-up notifications. The game list has zero ads. It's just your games. The only other stuff that can be displayed in the Library tab are useful things like achievement count, how many friends are playing, and recent news related to that game. The only ads in Steam are the ones you allow via the pop-up window (that only pops up either on start-up or after you close a game) and the ones in the store itself. The new dashboard is a pile of ad-ridden shit. I never used to default to booting to the disc in the tray because sometimes I wanted to access installed games, but this new dashboard is so horrible that I think I'm just going to default to booting to disc just so I never ever have to look at it. I don't know what they were thinking and I wish we had the option to use the old NXE.

I just started up my 360 yesterday to update it, and to be honest, it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be, but how fucking hard is it to let us pick between dashboard designs?

Why is the games tab the fifth one across? I thought this was a games console.

[QUOTE=Shugo;33638867]He's being dramatic, yeah, but he's right. I just downloaded the update and I HATE it. It is so much more ad-centric. Previously, when I booted up my console to the older NXE dashboard, it defaulted me to a section full of ads (with no option to change this). Whatever, though, because scrolling down to the next section brought me to a big box showing the title and art for the game I had in the disc tray. To the right of that was my XBL profile/Avatar (which could be selected to change profile settings), XBLA/installed games, media, and system settings. Simple, clean, and it's all the stuff I really wanted to ever use my console for. All in one section. No ads there. Now it defaults to a new tab called "Home". Home has the game I have in the disc tray in a tiny, tiny little box in the left corner with another tiny box under that for installed/XBLA games. In the center is a massive scrolling feed that displays the latest XBL Gold offer, an ad for Arkham City, telling me to visit the Marketplace, etc. To the right of that are literal advertisemets. It even says "Advertisement" under them. They're just as big as the options to actually play the games I own on the left. Beyond that, as you can see in the video, are overly complicated menus made up of varying box sizes. The actual media that I own is intermixed into countless panels of ads. Every section has an ad in it. If I want to listen to my own music or watch my own videos, I have to move over to that tab and find the tiny button that actually goes to my own media amid the ads suggesting that I go to the Marketplace to buy more media and media apps (all of which require Xbox Live Gold to use, even if the app has a paid subscription itself). Which reminds me, you also need Xbox Live Gold to use ANY of the new features they've been touting. Cloud saves? Need Gold. YouTube? Need Gold. Hulu Plus? Need Gold (on top of a Hulu Plus paid subscription). And even if you pay for Gold, none of the ads go away. None of them. The only new feature that doesn't require a Gold membership is the Bing search, and that has ads inserted into the results. I'm not even kidding; they make an entire clickable panel in the results an ad that you have to scroll over. And you're telling me Steam has the same kind of ads? Steam has options to default to your game list and to turn off the pop-up notifications. The game list has zero ads. It's just your games. The only other stuff that can be displayed in the Library tab are useful things like achievement count, how many friends are playing, and recent news related to that game. The only ads in Steam are the ones you allow via the pop-up window (that only pops up either on start-up or after you close a game) and the ones in the store itself. The new dashboard is a pile of ad-ridden shit. I never used to default to booting to the disc in the tray because sometimes I wanted to access installed games, but this new dashboard is so horrible that I think I'm just going to default to booting to disc just so I never ever have to look at it. I don't know what they were thinking and I wish we had the option to use the old NXE.[/QUOTE] ladies and gents the worlds longest facepunch reply!

[QUOTE=MasterG;33631946]Seriously regret getting an xbox. It's nothing but adverts, overpricing and bad community, at least in my experience of it.[/QUOTE] I got one for my birthday and hated the damn thing. Pretty much reinforced that to me PC gaming is much better. Traded the 360 in for a PS3 for the exclusives (Little Big Planet, Heavy Rain, etc)

You guys are a bit overreacting about the advertises, they are not that bad and not forcing it into your face. The menu works nice with Kinect but without kinect its a mess, wish you could change to the old menu..

Glad I got a PS3.

I don't even get indie games for some reason. They are not sold where i live so there's no menu for it old or new interface. I don't understand the thing about advertisement. I get no ads that are not about games at all. If you don't use it you don't have to go near it.