[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44874167]It's funny how in the last AA thead people were all like "Nuh' uh, AA can have pretty valid points sometimes".
[B]And yet his new video is about why women are stupid.[/B]
Seriously I hate his guts.[/QUOTE]
Did you watch the video? You can like it or hate it, I don't care what your opinion on the video is. But that isn't what the video is actually about.
If he wanted better clickbait he should have put a picture of a banana in the video banner.
Do people seriously still think the banana bit is still funny
[QUOTE=Last or First;44873977]Wow, that's the most of an Amazing Atheist (or Thunderf00t, too) video I've watched in a long time.
For the most part what he's saying is correct: generalizations don't matter for the individual. However, he does a few things wrong.
1st: he named the video "WOMEN ARE NOT SMART" as an obvious attention-getter. Why not just title it "Generalizations don't matter"? At least he didn't put boobs in the thumbnail, I guess.
2nd: he assumes only misogynists and "feminazis" will be attracted to a title like that, when in fact anyone with a brain will be upset by it and click on it.
3rd: he doesn't understand what feminism actually is.
But nevertheless, I propose a new rule: from now on, I'm the only person allowed to post TAA or TF videos. They're not being banned from being posted, so we're not silencing them, we're just limiting who can post them.
[sp]Of course, just because I can post them does not mean that I will.[/sp]
All in favor?[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing that he wants to prove his claim that people aren't willing to listen to all ideals.
I don't like this guy and most of the videos I've watched from him are garbage. But I actually agree with this video, even if it seems like something that should be obvious. I've seen enough internet people actually acting like that to the point where this message does need to be said, though unfortunately it's gonna have to be said by somebody else because most people aren't going to take TAA seriously at this point.
However that title is atrocious. I don't care if it does actually have a deeper meaning like he mentioned; it's not going to attract people to come listen to his argument, it's just going to cause people to not take it seriously or not watch the video at all (like most of this thread).
[QUOTE=Bonswazzle;44873690]I can't take someone who sticks a banana up his ass seriously, and makes clickbait for views.
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god damn it.[/QUOTE]
Really? Because you sound like you have a stick up your ass
TAA is a turd sandwich, though
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[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44874167]It's funny how in the last AA thead people were all like "Nuh' uh, AA can have pretty valid points sometimes".
And yet his new video is about why women are stupid.
Seriously I hate his guts.[/QUOTE]
he can, and I have watched him
but I've always known he was an asshole, so anything about him really should be surprising to me
in the end though even if you watch him you'll easily get bored with the whining that goes on
[QUOTE=.Lain;44873924]thunderfoot and taa the duo that will save us all[/QUOTE]
can Pat Condell come too?
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44873767]They always bring that up along with that [I]one[/I] incredibly offensive reddit post on rape as a way of discrediting the guy.[/QUOTE]
it's the same reason we judge the politicians say that shit like "[url=http://issuehawk.com/igor/2014/03/04/republican-if-a-woman-has-right-to-an-abortion-a-man-should-have-right-to-force-himself-on-a-woman.html]if a woman has right to an abortion, a man should have right to force himself on a woman[/url]", or how "[url=http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/aug/19/republican-todd-akin-rape-pregnancy]'legitimate rape'" rarely leads to pregnancy[/url]" or [url= http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/26/us/texas-candidate-s-comment-about-rape-causes-a-furor.html]"just relax and enjoy it."[/url]
you have to be a fucking [I]psychopath[/I] to even THINK that way, let alone say it to the public, be it to an interviewer or on your incredibly popular youtube channel.
so yeah i'd say us ~unfairly judging him~ based on those comments is completely legitimate, especially considering that he's never even made an attempt to apologize and consistently acts like a pathetic, misogynistic, and arrogant fuck.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;44874387]it's the same reason we judge the politicians say that shit like "[url=http://issuehawk.com/igor/2014/03/04/republican-if-a-woman-has-right-to-an-abortion-a-man-should-have-right-to-force-himself-on-a-woman.html]if a woman has right to an abortion, a man should have right to force himself on a woman[/url]", or how "[url=http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/aug/19/republican-todd-akin-rape-pregnancy]'legitimate rape'" rarely leads to pregnancy[/url]" or [url= http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/26/us/texas-candidate-s-comment-about-rape-causes-a-furor.html]"just relax and enjoy it."[/url]
you have to be a fucking [I]psychopath[/I] to even THINK that way, let alone say it to the public, be it to an interviewer or on your incredibly popular youtube channel.
so yeah i'd say us ~unfairly judging him~ based on those comments is completely legitimate, especially considering that he's never even made an attempt to apologize and consistently acts like a pathetic, misogynistic, and arrogant fuck.[/QUOTE]
to further your point, everyone should refer to this image
[url]http://feministphilosophers.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/gop_rape_advisory_megachart.gif[/url]
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;44873986]watched it
it's pointless. super obvious bullshit for the first 3 minutes and then rapidly starts degrading into silly statements and hilariously enough starts attributing viewpoints to people that basically don't exist.[/QUOTE]
that's what he does
he gets a basic point that everyone can agree with, like how gender roles negatively affect men or how men can be raped, then fucks it up by citing clearly crazy radical feminists, making up some fake ass strawman bullshit, or contorting the news article or event to fit his disgusting agenda.
i'm sorry but if you unironically agree with TAA you really should go get therapy because he's sick in the head. i don't care about his fetishes, i'm talking about how he puts every goddamn fiber of his being into spewing out this misinformed sexist bullshit in order to get a few thousand pats on the back from shut-in male teenagers.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;44874194]Did you watch the video? You can like it or hate it, I don't care what your opinion on the video is. But that isn't what the video is actually about.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I read the posts now and see what it's really about, but I am still not watching this video.
I genuinely hate this guy, and I regret thinking he was this amazing sage back when I was younger.
He's gone from a whiny incompetent "intellectual" into a hack whose now just looking for views and subs to feed into his dying popularity and attention.
To view his vid, would put it into my history, and give him a view. He can have other people's views, but not mine at all.
That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44873767]Whats with progressive feminist types always attacking him for his sexual behaviors? Thats something I don't really get. They always bring that up along with that [I]one[/I] incredibly offensive reddit post on rape as a way of discrediting the guy.
One angry comment and some strange fetishes shouldn't be enough to completely discredit somebody right?[/QUOTE]
Nobody actually cares what he shoves up his ass, people just bring it up because making banana jokes is treating him with the uppermost limit of seriousness he deserves.
Didn't he mock some rape victim on Reddit and say that she deserved her rape alongside much worse and derogatory statements?
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44874516]Yeah I read the posts now and see what it's really about, but I am still not watching this video.
I genuinely hate this guy, and I regret thinking he was this amazing sage back when I was younger.
He's gone from a whiny incompetent "intellectual" into a hack whose now just looking for views and subs to feed into his dying popularity and attention.
To view his vid, would put it into my history, and give him a view. He can have other people's views, but not mine at all.
That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.[/QUOTE]
I'm sick of the attitude that you have to watch every video put out by a nerd with a webcam to be intellectually honest. I don't need to watch TAA's videos anymore to know they're fucking dumb. He has a pretty ironclad precedent going for him.
This isn't some great qualified speaker, it's a neckbeard on the internet who makes money by putting on an "edgy" persona
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;44873723]Okay, as much as I dislike TAA, You shouldn't base your opinion on what somebody sticks up their ass.[/QUOTE]
Unless it is a hamster.
Or a frag grenade.
Or a child.
Shit man I can judge people for all sorts of things that they might cram in their pooper. Though a banana isn't really one of them.
Unless it was a banana I was planning on eating. In which case, bitch gonna die.
[QUOTE=J!NX;44874409]to further your point, everyone should refer to this image
[url]http://feministphilosophers.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/gop_rape_advisory_megachart.gif[/url][/QUOTE]
Everyone should have this image seared into their retinas. Never forget that these people MEANT what they said.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44873767]Whats with progressive feminist types always attacking him for his sexual behaviors? Thats something I don't really get. They always bring that up along with that [I]one[/I] incredibly offensive reddit post on rape as a way of discrediting the guy.
One angry comment and some strange fetishes shouldn't be enough to completely discredit somebody right?[/QUOTE]
No. That's what PEOPLE do. People see weakness and they jump on it without thinking things through. Not everyone is in full control of their reflexes, hell I'd be willing that next to nobody does, and they do stupid things without understanding the consequences.
You can not use that fucking excuse of "but people under this banner attacked him" when the banner is so sweeping and includes anyone who wishes to join. It's not part of the ideology and it's not systematic within the movement. It's a bunch of people acting out on being insulted by insulting back.
Fuck this "Oh everyone needs to be 100% logical all the time" bullshit. Nobody is a god damned robot.
His excuse for the title is fucking terrible. No matter what the title is, MRA's and Feminists are going to find the video.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;44874416]that's what he does
he gets a basic point that everyone can agree with, like how gender roles negatively affect men or how men can be raped, then fucks it up by citing clearly crazy radical feminists, making up some fake ass strawman bullshit, or contorting the news article or event to fit his disgusting agenda.
i'm sorry but if you unironically agree with TAA you really should go get therapy because he's sick in the head. i don't care about his fetishes, i'm talking about how he puts every goddamn fiber of his being into spewing out this misinformed sexist bullshit in order to get a few thousand pats on the back from shut-in male teenagers.[/QUOTE]
Funny thing is, he got the exact response he wanted by making the video. Of course he's trying to piss people off, and he's also pandering to a large audience too. Basically the guy's not actually an idiot, he knows how to make money. I don't think he has an agenda, he's said so many contradictory things, I think he's in it for the money and views. He's doing a good job at stirring up shit, and hes been rewarded with a lot of views.
Also you should care about the bananas, that was some rad shit man.
Still can't believe a lot of Facepunch thinks he's legit, he's talking shit for easy money, that's pretty much all he does.
Sad thing is, he's still relevant. How? Doing this sort of thing, he's constantly being given a money lifeline from the people he pisses off.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;44874416]that's what he does
he gets a basic point that everyone can agree with, like how gender roles negatively affect men or how men can be raped, then fucks it up by citing clearly crazy radical feminists, making up some fake ass strawman bullshit, or contorting the news article or event to fit his disgusting agenda.
i'm sorry but if you unironically agree with TAA you really should go get therapy because he's sick in the head. i don't care about his fetishes, i'm talking about how he puts every goddamn fiber of his being into spewing out this misinformed sexist bullshit in order to get a few thousand pats on the back from shut-in male teenagers.[/QUOTE]
The most frightening part is that it works, just look at the like bar. I hope that everyone that doesn't like the video here actually clicks dislike, when a video has that many likes it makes your general idiot think it's right (and the opposite for dislikes).
women are dumb because they can interact with a banana in ANY way and not lose credibility
The video thumbnail looks like it is from some 80's/90's album or TV show logo.
[QUOTE=.Lain;44873924]thunderfoot and taa the duo that will save us all[/QUOTE]
The comparison between Thunderf00t and TAA is insulting.
TAA is a fat jerk that exploits any possibility to gain more views and cause drama, he also told a rape victim that he should relive his rape experience, and his overall quality is horrendously bad.
Thunderf00t on the other hand, made very informative videos.
His "Why people laugh at creationists" series is a very good example, it's very well made and has good scientific arguments.
He also posts useful scientific videos, like how to make Cesium for example:
[video=youtube;ni6S4OuSlCs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni6S4OuSlCs[/video]
He also completed higher education, and now does research in a university, as opposed to TAA.
Here's a list of things that he published, if you're interested
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Mason+PE[/url]
He does generalize feminists sometimes in his feminism videos, but beyond that I can't see any similarity.
thunderfoot has good scientific stuff but he also has TAA's know-it-all attitude and often comes off as pretentious, and his feminism videos are basically TAA 2.0
[QUOTE=Yidaro;44881745]The comparison between Thunderf00t and TAA is insulting.
...
He does generalize feminists sometimes in his feminism videos, but beyond that I can't see any similarity.[/QUOTE]
The "anti-feminist youtube atheist" is the main similarity. But it's enough of a similarity for us to group them together.
He's basically TAA lite.
He has some sort of hate boner for Rebecca Watson, too. He can't stop bringing her up. He brought her up in a video about people claiming Colbert is racist. What the hell does she have to do with that? "These people are claiming Colbert is racist for making a joke poking fun at a racially insensitive action! Damn, feminists are stupid! They always do this!"
And have you seen his video thumbnails for videos that mention feminism?
Plus there's that whole ordeal where he was accepted into one humanist blogger group, proceeded to only make blogs about how stupid the rest of the bloggers in the group were, was kicked out, then exploited a loophole in their mailing system to make copies of all of their private conversations. Private conversations which included the real names of people going by aliases out of fear of violence, by the way.
When they responded with "what the fuck dude", he threw a big fit saying "Sure I'll steal your private conversations, but I would NEVER release them! What sort of person do you think I am? I'm insulted! I'm just keeping the conversations for, uh... feminists are dumb."
I just ate a banana
[QUOTE=Last or First;44881832]"These people are claiming Colbert is racist for making a joke poking fun at a racially insensitive action! [/QUOTE]
Are you really trying portray "Ban Colbert" as a sensible movement? It was really dumb.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44881874]Are you really trying portray "Ban Colbert" as a sensible movement? It was really dumb.[/QUOTE]
No, I'm trying to portray Thunderf00t as an idiot for comparing feminism to Ban Colbert.
[QUOTE=Last or First;44881832]The "anti-feminist youtube atheist" is the main similarity. But it's enough of a similarity for us to group them together.
He's basically TAA lite.
He has some sort of hate boner for Rebecca Watson, too. He can't stop bringing her up. He brought her up in a video about people claiming Colbert is racist. What the hell does she have to do with that? "These people are claiming Colbert is racist for making a joke poking fun at a racially insensitive action! Damn, feminists are stupid! They always do this!"
And have you seen his video thumbnails for videos that mention feminism?
Plus there's that whole ordeal where he was accepted into one humanist blogger group, proceeded to only make blogs about how stupid the rest of the bloggers in the group were, was kicked out, then exploited a loophole in their mailing system to make copies of all of their private conversations. Private conversations which included the real names of people going by aliases out of fear of violence, by the way.
When they responded with "what the fuck dude", he threw a big fit saying "Sure I'll steal your private conversations, but I would NEVER release them! What sort of person do you think I am? I'm insulted! I'm just keeping the conversations for, uh... feminists are dumb."[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing he's trying to bring awareness to her stupidity as much as he can.
If you're talking about FreethoughtBlogs, then I agree that how he handled the situation wasn't the best but he still didn't release any of the information, and he probably wanted to have copies of the conversations as a way to back him self up if anyone would bring up the conversations.
He didn't constantly post blogs about how stupid the rest of the bloggers were afaik, and even if he did, that shouldn't be a problem to anyone, hence the name of the site.
PZ mayers is a moron
[video=youtube;96FtpDLi_Vw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96FtpDLi_Vw[/video]
[video=youtube;4WA4qtemcUs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WA4qtemcUs[/video]
[video=youtube;o1mLHdTsmPc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1mLHdTsmPc[/video]
[video=youtube;BuKH3trPpgY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuKH3trPpgY[/video]
[video=youtube;nPfX2tMoPic]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPfX2tMoPic[/video]
I still don't see the comparison, even the term lite TAA is really far fetched.
the difference between taa and thunderfoot
they're both pseudo-intellectual pieces of shit
so: none
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if you wanna see an example of thunderfoot's brilliant reasoning in action without inflicting brain cancer on yourself by watching his videos [URL="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Thunderf00t/Criticism_of_Tropes_vs._Women"]go here[/URL]
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