Alien - H. R. Giger's Beautiful Monster - kaptainkristian
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The redesign on the face huger makes sense. It puts the legs on the side of the creature giving it more of a crustacean look, which kinda works with the whole exoskeleton structure of the alien. The leg change also makes the movement more believable rather than looking like a mutated human hand.
[QUOTE=27X;51051333]No he says directly everything, which isn't true in the case of the Facehugger and Chestburster.
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The fact that Giger liked the redesigns better than his own says quite a bit.[/QUOTE]
He was still the originator of the core concepts though. The chestburster is just a logical devolution of the final form and the hugger retains the important parts of Giger's original design.
Technically speaking he is correct, to a point.
To me, Alien is a flawless film, the ONLY possible wrong thing about it is Ripley caring so much about the cat.
I love Aliens but it kinda crapped on the mythos of the first film, the concept of how the eggs are made are so much more horrifying in the first film.
[video] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6dSIMFo7iU[/url] [/video]
Alien made me a fan of the no-eyes big-teeth thing. Thank you Giger.
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;51052156]To me, Alien is a flawless film, the ONLY possible wrong thing about it is Ripley caring so much about the cat.
I love Aliens but it kinda crapped on the mythos of the first film, the concept of how the eggs are made are so much more horrifying in the first film.
[video] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6dSIMFo7iU[/url] [/video][/QUOTE]
Oh god, that's legitimately disturbing.
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;51052156]To me, Alien is a flawless film, the ONLY possible wrong thing about it is Ripley caring so much about the cat.
I love Aliens but it kinda crapped on the mythos of the first film, the concept of how the eggs are made are so much more horrifying in the first film.
[video] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6dSIMFo7iU[/url] [/video][/QUOTE]
[sp]I believe they kind of made that scene canon again in Alien: Isolation and I think it's somewhat safe to say that Aliens and everything after it may not even be considered canon anymore[/sp]
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;51060389][sp]I believe they kind of made that scene canon again in Alien: Isolation and I think it's somewhat safe to saw that Aliens and everything after it may not even be considered canon anymore[/sp][/QUOTE]
Just because that original scene was cut doesn't mean it's non-canon. I'm pretty sure it's established that eggs can be created by [sp]using victims[/sp] OR by a queen - at least that's what I heard at the time Isolation released.
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;51052156]To me, Alien is a flawless film, the ONLY possible wrong thing about it is Ripley caring so much about the cat.
I love Aliens but it kinda crapped on the mythos of the first film, the concept of how the eggs are made are so much more horrifying in the first film.
[video] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6dSIMFo7iU[/url] [/video][/QUOTE]
You could easily write it off by saying Xenomorphs can adapt to a queenless environment
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51060459]You could easily write it off by saying Xenomorphs can adapt to a queenless environment[/QUOTE]
Isn't that implied in some of the non-movie material anyways? I'm sure it was a case of either they can do without a Queen or if there's only one it will naturally evolve into a Queen after some time.
[QUOTE=spekter;51060561]Isn't that implied in some of the non-movie material anyways? I'm sure it was a case of either they can do without a Queen or if there's only one it will naturally evolve into a Queen after some time.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure the "a praetorian alien can turn into a queen" thing has been used in more than one AVP game.
[QUOTE=Dr.Scrake;51060587]I'm pretty sure the "a praetorian alien can turn into a queen" thing has been used in more than one AVP game.[/QUOTE]
didn't the lore (through prometheus at least, as loose as that is canonically) basically explain "alien"s are bioengineered to be an easily deployed world-ender? I'd imagine you'd want any site in which even a single alien is deployed (on purpose, accident, whatever), for it to be able to to turn queen and seed a larger attack force over time, and if a queen is destroyed, for another alien to easily replace it
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51060926]Alien is the best horror film of all time.[/QUOTE]at least in the world of sci-fi horror, or closely tied with The Thing
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51061773]at least in the world of sci-fi horror, or closely tied with The Thing[/QUOTE]
The Thing and Alien are still my all time favorites. But i think The Thing wins just because of the ambiguous ending vs being blown off into space.
I'm obviously talking about the john carpenter version. I enjoy pretending the remake doesn't exist
[QUOTE=Kill Me No;51061830]The Thing and Alien are still my all time favorites. But i think The Thing wins just because of the ambiguous ending vs being blown off into space.
I'm obviously talking about the john carpenter version. I enjoy pretending the remake doesn't exist[/QUOTE]
I didn't find the remake (pre-remake?) to be that bad. Like the original is still better but eeeh.
[QUOTE=Dr.Scrake;51061865][B]I didn't find the remake (pre-remake?) to be that bad.[/B] Like the original is still better but eeeh.[/QUOTE]
It fucks with the established lore, formula and whole point of Carpenter's version. Yet it still tries to be a "remake" by copying a bunch of random moments from the original/putting in call-backs without understanding why those events and scenarios occurred the way they did and what the significance was.
And of course that absurd part where The Thing is hiding on a chopper heading towards civilization but it just randomly decides to kill everyone because they wanted to land again for a while. It could have continued waiting until the chopper set off again and gone on to take over the Earth.
They also masked the animatronics with shitty CGI.
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;51060389][sp]I believe they kind of made that scene canon again in Alien: Isolation and I think it's somewhat safe to say that Aliens and everything after it may not even be considered canon anymore[/sp][/QUOTE]
I don't know that's safe to say, since[sp]an interview with the writers of Isolation confirmed there was an Alien queen onboard, you just never encounter her.[/sp]
[url=http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/interview-alien-isolation-writers-will-porter-dion-lay/2/]spoiler source[/url]
[QUOTE=spekter;51060561]Isn't that implied in some of the non-movie material anyways? I'm sure it was a case of either they can do without a Queen or if there's only one it will naturally evolve into a Queen after some time.[/QUOTE]
iirc some comics have mutant Xenomorph species that rely on asexual reproduction rather than having a queen
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