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[QUOTE=Behemoth_PT;45070393]I could also write paragraphs on how Mass Effect 3 was not that bad and how Video Game story, being a piece of art, should not be about pleasing the fans at that moment. I could write paragraphs about how idiotic all the hate hype was about a game that although far from perfect wasn't bad at all. Personally I didn't even find the ending that bad. The only problem I saw in the game that I can relate to is seeing how every choice you had in the previous games affect little or nothing of the story. Seriously, ME3 wasn't bad at all. They didn't want to make your generic bioware game with a cliche boss fight at the end. They wanted to focus on a more action cinematic approached that focuses on Sheppard's struggle against this overwhelming threat and they nailed it. Of course they could do a less casual game, but that wasn't even the goal of ME2. People expected ME series to be something it's not and that was the major thing about it.[/QUOTE] Why don't you try countering a single argument then? We've already shown how the series is fundamentally flawed on a narrative level.
[QUOTE=Behemoth_PT;45070393]I could also write paragraphs on how Mass Effect 3 was not that bad and how Video Game story, being a piece of art, should not be about pleasing the fans at that moment. I could write paragraphs about how idiotic all the hate hype was about a game that although far from perfect wasn't bad at all. Personally I didn't even find the ending that bad. The only problem I saw in the game that I can relate to is seeing how every choice you had in the previous games affect little or nothing of the story. Seriously, ME3 wasn't bad at all. They didn't want to make your generic bioware game with a cliche boss fight at the end. They wanted to focus on a more action cinematic approached that focuses on Sheppard's struggle against this overwhelming threat and they nailed it. Of course they could do a less casual game, but that wasn't even the goal of ME2. People expected ME series to be something it's not and that was the major thing about it.[/QUOTE] So what made it good then? What made it follow in line with the two games that came before it? You make it seem like writers can't fuck something up. They can. They do.
interactive narrative yet no decision you make actually matters
what about hamburger helper
I liked all three games equally and I'm excited for ME4. And I am the only living being on Facepunch who thinks this way, apparently.
I'm cautious about this, Mass Effect 2 was fantastic and Mass Effect 3 had the best moments in the series, but I'm not sure it will go in a good direction. What was up with that krogan roaring?
You know, I think everyone can agree, one of the Mass Effect series's biggest flaws was that you couldn't have a gay with Garrus
[QUOTE=Cuel;45076745]what about hamburger helper[/QUOTE] I can't remember if she was fired or left because people were sending her death threats over the BSN. Pretty sure it was the latter. Either way, she is gone.
One Thing that really pissed me off was the fact that Javik was DLC mission the last remaining prothen and he gave so much info on the reapers and humans/aliens during there " development " time that should have been part of the main fucking missions.
Which really sucked because it was really cool to have Javik act as a counterpoint to Shepard. He's not just interacting with some random alien, he's interacting with his cycle's Shepard, and this Shepard lost the war.
[QUOTE=Behemoth_PT;45070393]I could also write paragraphs on how Mass Effect 3 was not that bad and how Video Game story, being a piece of art, should not be about pleasing the fans at that moment. I could write paragraphs about how idiotic all the hate hype was about a game that although far from perfect wasn't bad at all. Personally I didn't even find the ending that bad. The only problem I saw in the game that I can relate to is seeing how every choice you had in the previous games affect little or nothing of the story. Seriously, ME3 wasn't bad at all. They didn't want to make your generic bioware game with a cliche boss fight at the end. They wanted to focus on a more action cinematic approached that focuses on Sheppard's struggle against this overwhelming threat and they nailed it. Of course they could do a less casual game, but that wasn't even the goal of ME2.[/quote] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COSeM2EVkDc[/media]
I didn't think the story in ME3 was that awful, but it was certainly the weakest of the trilogy. Yeah, the ending was a disappointment but I can live with it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Agree;45077545]I didn't think the story in ME3 was that awful, but it was certainly the weakest of the trilogy. Yeah, the ending was a disappointment but I can live with it.[/QUOTE] In a weird way, I'm glad it was terrible. If it was good, we would have been like, "well that was a pretty decent trilogy to have played" But now it's something you had to be there for. Far more memorable than even an amazing ending would have been. Sure, it sucked to have such an awful conclusion, but it's a pain we all shared, and it brought everyone together.
Sorry for the unpopular opinion here, but honestly, to me Mass Effect 1 felt more rushed in certain aspects than Mass Effect 3. Not only gameplay, but some parts of the writing itself are just terribly messy. Like that large Reaper debris that almost kills Shepard at the end? Criticizing ME3's ending almost feels like nitpicking in comparison. Even on Feros, some parts of the scenario just felt inadequate. And I'm sure you've all noticed how many things are wrong with the romance in ME1. Moreover, I could go on about the disastrous job done by the Sound department, how unrefined the general gameplay is (be it combat, that ridiculously stupid inventory system, or even the dialogue choices that aren't choices), and the general direction jumping from downright hillarious or boring to excellent. If you want examples, I've got all kinds of them. I'm sorry to say it, but to me ME3 is better than ME1. ME1 is better written generally speaking, and has more "charm" to it, but too much of the game is just messy to just ridiculous in some parts. Having completed ME1 at least 10 times with a 50+ level character, I could only notice its flaws more and more often.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;45066196]Personally I wish they'd just go for another race, and not humans again. Playing as a Turian would be great, I want to see Palaven[/QUOTE] Krogan master race
[QUOTE=Loadingue;45077604]Sorry for the unpopular opinion here, but honestly, to me Mass Effect 1 felt more rushed in certain aspects than Mass Effect 3. Not only gameplay, but some parts of the writing itself are just terribly messy. Like that large Reaper debris that almost kills Shepard at the end? Criticizing ME3's ending almost feels like nitpicking in comparison. Even on Feros, some parts of the scenario just felt inadequate. And I'm sure you've all noticed how many things are wrong with the romance in ME1. Moreover, I could go on about the disastrous job done by the Sound department, how unrefined the general gameplay is (be it combat, that ridiculously stupid inventory system, or even the dialogue choices that aren't choices), and the general direction jumping from downright hillarious or boring to excellent. If you want examples, I've got all kinds of them. I'm sorry to say it, but to me ME3 is better than ME1. ME1 is better written generally speaking, and has more "charm" to it, but too much of the game is just messy to just ridiculous in some parts. Having completed ME1 at least 10 times with a 50+ level character, I could only notice its flaws more and more often.[/QUOTE] The only thing that ruined ME1 for me was a cripplingly bad graphical bug on Noveria and Ilos that only occurs with AMD CPUs where every character and model in the level is rendered as a glitchy, blocky, black silhouette unless I enter a console command that is pretty much Bioware's equivalent to mat_fullbright 1 in the Source Engine. It's been years since the game's release and they never bothered to fix it. Oh, and maybe the lack of romance options. Ashley or Kaiden depending on Shepard's gender, and Liara. I need muh Tali.
[QUOTE=Loadingue;45077604]Sorry for the unpopular opinion here, but honestly, to me Mass Effect 1 felt more rushed in certain aspects than Mass Effect 3. Not only gameplay, but some parts of the writing itself are just terribly messy. Like that large Reaper debris that almost kills Shepard at the end? Criticizing ME3's ending almost feels like nitpicking in comparison. Even on Feros, some parts of the scenario just felt inadequate. And I'm sure you've all noticed how many things are wrong with the romance in ME1. Moreover, I could go on about the disastrous job done by the Sound department, how unrefined the general gameplay is (be it combat, that ridiculously stupid inventory system, or even the dialogue choices that aren't choices), and the general direction jumping from downright hillarious or boring to excellent. If you want examples, I've got all kinds of them. I'm sorry to say it, but to me ME3 is better than ME1. ME1 is better written generally speaking, and has more "charm" to it, but too much of the game is just messy to just ridiculous in some parts. Having completed ME1 at least 10 times with a 50+ level character, I could only notice its flaws more and more often.[/QUOTE] Mass Effect 1 having more charm is pretty important since charm is ME's greatest quality. I actually thought ME3's gameplay struck a good balance between 1 & 2, though I still wish it were more to the looty side.
[QUOTE=Loadingue;45077604]Sorry for the unpopular opinion here, but honestly, to me Mass Effect 1 felt more rushed in certain aspects than Mass Effect 3. Not only gameplay, but some parts of the writing itself are just terribly messy. Like that large Reaper debris that almost kills Shepard at the end? Criticizing ME3's ending almost feels like nitpicking in comparison. Even on Feros, some parts of the scenario just felt inadequate. And I'm sure you've all noticed how many things are wrong with the romance in ME1. Moreover, I could go on about the disastrous job done by the Sound department, how unrefined the general gameplay is (be it combat, that ridiculously stupid inventory system, or even the dialogue choices that aren't choices), and the general direction jumping from downright hillarious or boring to excellent. If you want examples, I've got all kinds of them. I'm sorry to say it, but to me ME3 is better than ME1. ME1 is better written generally speaking, and has more "charm" to it, but too much of the game is just messy to just ridiculous in some parts. Having completed ME1 at least 10 times with a 50+ level character, I could only notice its flaws more and more often.[/QUOTE] ME3 was a lot, LOT better in terms of it's gameplay. But the story, the problems the universe faced never seemed serious or threatening or something to care about after ME1. The games after ME1 never care about your choices again.
I don't know which is the most annoying; how disappointing ME3 was, people circlejerking about how bad ME3 was, or people circlejerking how ME1 was the greatest shit ever. How on earth did Mako, something that everyone loathed became this thing everyone praises about ME1 now? It's still a god awful piece of shit. Anyway, I'm curoius about ME4, I won't pre order it, but I'll deffo buy it if people don't hate it after the realese.
[QUOTE=MiX-A;45079069]I don't know which is the most annoying; how disappointing ME3 was, people circlejerking about how bad ME3 was, or people circlejerking how ME1 was the greatest shit ever. How on earth did Mako, something that everyone loathed became this thing everyone praises about ME1 now? It's still a god awful piece of shit. Anyway, I'm curoius about ME4, I won't pre order it, but I'll deffo buy it if people don't hate it after the realese.[/QUOTE] I actually loved the Mako I didn't care what anyone said, that thing was fun and fucking stupid. but fun.
[QUOTE=MiX-A;45079069]I don't know which is the most annoying; how disappointing ME3 was, people circlejerking about how bad ME3 was, or people circlejerking how ME1 was the greatest shit ever. How on earth did Mako, something that everyone loathed became this thing everyone praises about ME1 now? It's still a god awful piece of shit. Anyway, I'm curoius about ME4, I won't pre order it, but I'll deffo buy it if people don't hate it after the realese.[/QUOTE] Yeah you had a turian avatar for like [i]forever[/i] and couldn't understand why people wrote small novels about how me3 completely bit ass after rannoch but by all means act like you're all distant and cool now. :v: (protip: people who've invested five years and about 300 bucks might feel they have a larger than normal stake in the presentation of a franchise by a company whom's PR department continues to spout about "it's all about the fans, we do this for the fans, we love them as much as they love us", BW [b]literally[/b] built their reputation on that facet...) and Fuck the mako. Fuck the mako in its gravity defying 110 degree inverted climbing, ridge racer boat-ass turning tailpipe.
[QUOTE=Skyward;45069419]I remember someone coming up with the idea of replacing the ghost kid with Avina, the tour guide VI on the Citadel. And instead of being the controller of the reapers or what the fuck ever, she was simply and AI created to oversee the cycle. And as the Asari discovered the Citadel, and have proven that they hide shit from the rest of the galactic community, understood that what she knew could be dangerous knowledge and told her to disguise herself as a standard VI. Would have made more sense than the fucking ghost of a kid you saw for a total of 3 minutes at the start of the game.[/QUOTE] I really think they shouldn't have focused so much on that damn kid. In my run (and I'm sure many others had similar Shepards) I had caused two mass extinctions, the death of the galactic government's leaders, and the destruction of a planet with a population of ~400,000. I'd think somebody capable of living with that would be less than concerned with some kid getting vaporized. On the flipside, a paragon Shepard would probably take it to heart. I have no idea how they could've made it a choice beyond changing your reaction based on your alignment, but I think that would have been much better.
[QUOTE=27X;45079631] and Fuck the mako. Fuck the mako in its gravity defying 110 degree inverted climbing, ridge racer boat-ass turning tailpipe.[/QUOTE] I liked Mako :'(
The mako made threshers scary as fuck until I noticed the circle flat landscape.
Mako is a beautiful piece of work ;)
[QUOTE=Behemoth_PT;45070393]I could also write paragraphs on how Mass Effect 3 was not that bad and how Video Game story, being a piece of art, should not be about pleasing the fans at that moment.[/QUOTE] Yes it should, creating a video game means creating a piece of entertainment that keeps the paying customer pleased. They're not avant garde art pieces.
[QUOTE=gudman;45080045]I liked Mako :'([/QUOTE] Armstrong Cluster Armstrong Motherfucking Clusmotherfuckingter
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;45079797]I really think they shouldn't have focused so much on that damn kid. In my run (and I'm sure many others had similar Shepards) I had caused two mass extinctions, the death of the galactic government's leaders, and the destruction of a planet with a population of ~400,000. I'd think somebody capable of living with that would be less than concerned with some kid getting vaporized. On the flipside, a paragon Shepard would probably take it to heart. I have no idea how they could've made it a choice beyond changing your reaction based on your alignment, but I think that would have been much better.[/QUOTE] Ever heard of "the straw that broke the camel's back"? Even if your Shepard appears to be the equivalent of Hitler, it would be sociopathic of him to not care about watching the death of an innocent child at the hands of a 160 meter tall killing machine.
The driving of the Mako doesn't bother so much as its annoyingly slow and weak firerate. BOOM . . . . BOOM Repeat for 5 entire minutes to defeat Thresher Maw. Horrible.
[QUOTE=Loadingue;45081044]The driving of the Mako doesn't bother so much as its annoyingly slow and weak firerate. BOOM . . . . BOOM Repeat for 5 entire minutes to defeat Thresher Maw. Horrible.[/QUOTE] What you say you didn't fight Tresher Maws on foot like a MAN would? You missed out on shitloads of XP.
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