[QUOTE=gudman;45081156]What you say you didn't fight Tresher Maws on foot like a MAN would?
You missed out on shitloads of XP.[/QUOTE]
Fight things on Mako until it's almost dead, get out and fire my pistol with like 20 Magnum mods, shoot once, get back in. Good times.
Am I just really bad at being able to notice things like this or were ME2's and ME3's combat pretty much the same? There were a few minor differences, but I'm not seeing the huge divide that's being brought up. I will agree though, that ME3's writing was pretty subpar, and the ending was abysmal.
[QUOTE=Geiger;45081235]Am I just really bad at being able to notice things like this or were ME2's and ME3's combat pretty much the same? There were a few minor differences, but I'm not seeing the huge divide that's being brought up. I will agree though, that ME3's writing was pretty subpar, and the ending was abysmal.[/QUOTE]
Mass Effect 3 had more movement options for moving between cover, the powers recharged much faster, and everything was smoother in general. There was also the fact that the 4th, 5th, and 6th points in each skill had two options, where ME2 only had one choice at the very end.
[QUOTE=Novangel;45081219]Fight things on Mako until it's almost dead, get out and fire my pistol with like 20 Magnum mods, shoot once, get back in. Good times.[/QUOTE]
True MAN's way, yes.
[QUOTE=Behemoth_PT;45070393]I could also write paragraphs on how Mass Effect 3 was not that bad and how Video Game story, being a piece of art, should not be about pleasing the fans at that moment. I could write paragraphs about how idiotic all the hate hype was about a game that although far from perfect wasn't bad at all. Personally I didn't even find the ending that bad.
The only problem I saw in the game that I can relate to is seeing how every choice you had in the previous games affect little or nothing of the story.
Seriously, ME3 wasn't bad at all. They didn't want to make your generic bioware game with a cliche boss fight at the end. They wanted to focus on a more action cinematic approached that focuses on Sheppard's struggle against this overwhelming threat and they nailed it. Of course they could do a less casual game, but that wasn't even the goal of ME2.
People expected ME series to be something it's not and that was the major thing about it.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, it was fucking awful. That's a fact.
Nothing says cinematic like multiple choice and contrived bullshit!
Oh they nailed it all right, they nailed a big stinky turd to the wall.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45081989]Sorry, it was fucking awful. That's a fact.
Nothing says cinematic like multiple choice and contrived bullshit!
Oh they nailed it all right, they nailed a big stinky turd to the wall.[/QUOTE]
The ending was bad. The rest is variably good. It's not "fucking awful".
Yeah prior to the ending, ME3 had it's moments, both shit and great.
I always thought the deference between ME1 and ME2 was because ME1 was made independently by bioware, were as the second was made by bioware and EA.
Also ME1's AI is shit. Loved the interface, and the more control you had in fighting tactics, but hated how the squad rarely obeyed your commands rightly. I remember right when you go get Liara and there's this massive geth guarding the entrance and your squad would just stay there taking it.
I think the action based combat is cool but they should have polished the ME1 style for 2 and 3.
Also how writers can fuck up is pretty much subjective.
I think part of the fuss about ME3 is basically about it being launched by EA and the buildup they made.
Sorry for the unpopular opinions but in respect to video games story line you either like them or you don't, unless it has major technical issues. I didn't see much of those in ME3.
There are other companies out there that lead themselves by these rule: we make our games, if you like them, you do, if you don't well that's a pitty.
Paradox is one of those for example, CD Project too, and much other ones you can pile up here.
So why can't EA also get free will about their content? It's not like they are shoving the game in your face.
[QUOTE=Loadingue;45082899]The ending was bad. The rest is variably good. It's not "fucking awful".[/QUOTE]
No, it was mostly all bad. Can't really think of any redeeming qualities. Well, the Tuchanka mission was good so there's that I guess.
ME3 felt rushed and incomplete. The team you worked to get in ME2 are reduced to cameos and every side mission is going to a star system, scanning, play tag with the reapers, collect the artifact then try to find the guy at the citadel who wanted it
I really want to play an RPG that gave me the same excitement as first Mass Effect again. It was such a experience to me. Always been an RPG since Baldur gate 2 but Mass Effect was this epic cinematic RPG that actually felt like your choices mattered.
The Witcher 2 came very close to it but I preferred the setting of Mass Effect much more. I'm actually really excited for CD Projekt's Cyberpunk game.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;45086375]ME3 felt rushed and incomplete. The team you worked to get in ME2 are reduced to cameos and every side mission is going to a star system, scanning, play tag with the reapers, collect the artifact then try to find the guy at the citadel who wanted it[/QUOTE]
"Shepard! We left our important book behind go get it for us!"
Fuck you, what am I your intern? The galaxy is being destroyed you oaf!
All the side quests were terrible and poorly implemented. You gotta stand around eavesdropping and then you gotta go look for the fucking thing but of course in their infinite wisdom decided that a quest log and quest markers were for chumps. This is an RPG for fucks sake!
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45086325]No, it was mostly all bad. Can't really think of any redeeming qualities. Well, the Tuchanka mission was good so there's that I guess.[/QUOTE]
Tuchanga was good, Rannoch was (mostly) good, the gameplay was good, and a fair deal of the characters were handled well.
I'm still of the opinion that the lousy ending wouldn't have felt as bad as it did were it not for the largely good game I had been playing until that point.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;45067626]For fucks sake, it was just a disappointing videogame, and it's been over 2 years since it came out. Bioware fucked up, Casey Hudson lost his way from his original vision on the first game, but is this hatred still necessary?[/QUOTE]
honestly some of the posts itt are fucking mind blowing
[editline]12th June 2014[/editline]
when did fp aquire /v/-tier taste
was it from the lack of sunlight
Two years later and I'm still mad. I will never stop being mad. Mass Effect 3 wasn't just a disappointment, it was a betrayal
[editline]12th June 2014[/editline]
Bioware burned our crops, tainted our water supply and delivered a plague unto our houses
Just bring back the optimistic neo-80s sci fi theme from ME1, not the gritty bleak shit from ME2/ME3.
ME3 was good in a lot of areas, some scenes are really well written and play out well. The problem is it gets bogged down by so many plot holes, inconsistencies, stupid shit and deux ex machinas that really rip you apart if you were following the series from the beginning. There's so many things that happen for pretty much no reason than drama, like Rannoch (Why did Legion die for pretty much no reason? Drama), Earth (Why are Reapers focusing on Earth? Drama), 2 pretty much has 0 effect on the overall plot and all the characters you spent hours getting to know end up as cameos, and that's not even mentioning the ending. I had more fun with the MP to be honest, I'd pick up Citadel but not really sure I'd want to dish out money for that.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;45088330]Two years later and I'm still mad. I will never stop being mad. Mass Effect 3 wasn't just a disappointment, it was a betrayal
[editline]12th June 2014[/editline]
Bioware burned our crops, tainted our water supply and delivered a plague unto our houses[/QUOTE]
Bioware salted the land.
[QUOTE=Novangel;45088994]ME3 was good in some areas, some scenes are really well written. The problem is it gets bogged down by so many plot holes, inconsistencies, stupid shit and deux ex machinas that really rip you apart if you were following the series from the beginning. There's so many things that happen for pretty much no reason than drama, like Rannoch (Why did Legion die for pretty much no reason? Drama), Earth (Why are Reapers focusing on Earth? Drama), 2 pretty much has 0 effect on the overall plot and all the characters you spent hours getting to know end up as cameos, and that's not even mentioning the ending. I had more fun with the MP to be honest, I'd pick up Citadel but not really sure I'd want to dish out money for that.[/QUOTE]
Citadel is definitely worth the money. It's basically the last "Hurrah" of the characters from 1 - 3. It even has some of the multiplayer characters making cameos and cracking jokes in the new Citadel area. If you are a fan of the ME series and characters it's definitely worth the money.
It's, in my opinion, how Mass Effect 3 should have ended.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45089023]Bioware salted the land.[/QUOTE]
They raped the fields and pillaged the women!
[QUOTE=Fayez;45089048]Citadel is definitely worth the money. It's basically the last "Hurrah" of the characters from 1 - 3. It even has some of the multiplayer characters making cameos and cracking jokes in the new Citadel area. If you are a fan of the ME series and characters it's definitely worth the money.
It's, in my opinion, how Mass Effect 3 should have ended.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention Tali's beautiful singing scene if you picked her as a romance and invite her up to the apartment.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJpwPGJVl1o[/media]
Also I'm not being ironic. This scene brought tears to my eyes the first time I watched it.
I don't know if its just me but...
mass effect 2 was boring after a while
it was pretty OK for a while but I just couldn't play it that long, it just, really got dull fast.
[editline]13th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;45089311]Not to mention Tali's beautiful singing scene if you picked her as a romance and invite her up to the apartment.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJpwPGJVl1o[/media]
Also I'm not being ironic. This scene brought tears to my eyes the first time I watched it.[/QUOTE]
the worst thing about the acting is the faces always look totally blank to me so everything feels ultra stale
there is just [B]no[/B] expression at all. yet only 10 years ago a game that revolutionized the market had some of the best facial expressions ever.
10 years and this game has zero emotion in it. it's actors reading off a script, not humans and aliens feeling compassion for one another, not as just a character but as individiuals.
If you're going to make a lot of "Character" study in a game romantically at LEAST have a SMILE if anything.
[QUOTE=Fayez;45089048]Citadel is definitely worth the money. It's basically the last "Hurrah" of the characters from 1 - 3. It even has some of the multiplayer characters making cameos and cracking jokes in the new Citadel area. If you are a fan of the ME series and characters it's definitely worth the money.
It's, in my opinion, how Mass Effect 3 should have ended.[/QUOTE]
You can't end a trilogy that large on yuck yuck injokes and animooo fancervix cranked up to 1000.
That's all the citadel is, and that's fine, it should in no way shape or form bookend anything.
[QUOTE=J!NX;45090008]the worst thing about the acting is the faces always look totally blank to me so everything feels ultra stale
there is just [B]no[/B] expression at all. yet only 10 years ago a game that revolutionized the market had some of the best facial expressions ever.
10 years and this game has zero emotion in it. it's actors reading off a script, not humans and aliens feeling compassion for one another, not as just a character but as individiuals.
If you're going to make a lot of "Character" study in a game romantically at LEAST have a SMILE if anything.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you about the facial expressions, but that can be applied to almost any game in the past decade that isn't Half-Life 2 or BioShock Infinite. If there's one thing most games get wrong, even in this day and age, it's facial animation. I think this scene works out really well because we can't see Tali's face to begin with aside from those little pale bulbs behind her mask. We can't be disappointed by her lack of facial animation because it can't be seen in the first place.
Also, the one time Shepard did smile, this is what we got:
[t]http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/28643895/images/1386135226555.jpg[/t]
hype!
I love the Mass Effect trilogy, and I'm perhaps one of the few who didn't outright hate the ending. it felt incredibly weird and out of place, gotta give it that, but it still gave me goosebumps and felt pretty cool. still, it could have been much better. the entire build up of the three games ends with a cheap ending which is kind of eh.
the game itself was a blast, just like all the other games in my opinion. can't wait to play more of Mass Effect
[QUOTE=PredGD;45092139]hype!
I love the Mass Effect trilogy, and I'm perhaps one of the few who didn't outright hate the ending. it felt incredibly weird and out of place, gotta give it that, but it still gave me goosebumps and felt pretty cool. still, it could have been much better. the entire build up of the three games ends with a cheap ending which is kind of eh.
the game itself was a blast, just like all the other games in my opinion. can't wait to play more of Mass Effect[/QUOTE]
I'll make a confession... The first time I got to ME3's ending, I cried like I hadn't cried in years. It had to be the overload of mixing emotions, but when asked why the next day, I answered "it was the best ending I ever saw" :v:
[QUOTE=Loadingue;45093902]I'll make a confession... The first time I got to ME3's ending, I cried like I hadn't cried in years. It had to be the overload of mixing emotions, but when asked why the next day, I answered "it was the best ending I ever saw" :v:[/QUOTE]
The only thing I felt when I saw the ending was being jarred into the dull disbelief of not being sure if what you're seeing is real or just a weird dream, as if at the climax of a gripping drama that had you on the edge of your seat, all the characters burst into a feel-good Broadway number.
[QUOTE=27X;45090696]You can't end a trilogy that large on yuck yuck injokes and animooo fancervix cranked up to 1000.
That's all the citadel is, and that's fine, it should in no way shape or form bookend anything.[/QUOTE]
I meant that it should have been the scene after destroying the Reapers.
[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;45092075]I have to agree with you about the facial expressions, but that can be applied to almost any game in the past decade that isn't Half-Life 2 or BioShock Infinite. If there's one thing most games get wrong, even in this day and age, it's facial animation. I think this scene works out really well because we can't see Tali's face to begin with aside from those little pale bulbs behind her mask. We can't be disappointed by her lack of facial animation because it can't be seen in the first place.
Also, the one time Shepard did smile, this is what we got:
[t]http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/28643895/images/1386135226555.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
I can only atribute the atrocious animation to something like awful management and interaction between teams. The faces in ME games are all basically copied from real people, and then modeled accordingly, but with no regards to all the muscles, so they end up with basically a 3D mask. Now animation team has to animate the mask, and it works as expected. Facial expressions distort parts of the model they shouldn't touch, and leave other features untouched that should flex.
Shepard's face in that scene you're talking about is basically what you get when you crank Source model's "Smile" flex all the way to the max, without touching anything else. It looks fucking twisted.
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