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You know, I like the idea of workshop creator threads for TF2, but the whole reason we had the emporium was because of how many fuckin creators there are. There's gonna be so many of "___'s workshop thread" and you're actually encouraged to that now...
Fair enough. I just feel like it's going to lead to a lot of the subforum being clogged. Forgive me if the question was already answered but what about certain subforums that are going to have a lot of the same style of individual threads like the mentioned emporium? What if a subforum has a lot of traffic and someones new thread quickly gets buried under a wave of similar new threads? Do they bump it to the top? (Sorry if this comes across as aggressive I'm just trying to find a good balance to make sure topics move smoothly)
https://i.imgur.com/sVHgmuZ.png What the actual fuck is this?
Not sure why the Nintendo Mobile thread is in the Mario subforum when the normal Nintendo thread isn't. The mobile thread and the Smash thread are not directly Mario related.
Holy shit, things are a mess now. I honestly can't say much that hasn't been said, but the megathreads genuinely made things feel like a united community. When I posted in Fallout or GTA's thread, I could actually expect conversation. We had a common interest and a common reason to be in that thread; for literally anything Fallout/GTA related. Questions, discussions on cars, discussions on balance, rants. Literally everything was there and we were all there for just that, literally anything someone would post. The future that seems to be envisioned seems almost like an attempt to splinter the communities. Spreading things as thin as we are right now is going to do nothing but stagnate discussion. People will post in the mini-threads for five total, and then it will die. There won't be a community, there's going to be five random chucklefucks going "ehhhh hi or some shit idk btw this is shit" and then leaving for every thread made. I'm not sure I understand the decision making process here. Was this something deliberately planned, and carefully thought out? Is this a test bed to gauge community reaction regardless of how well or poorly an idea is done? Or is this just a random spur of the moment thing that's going to abruptly vanish when the next idea comes along?
God I just realized, how is this gonna affect the NSFW forums Gotta just wander into Schindler's Fist and go hey what you guys think about this New Thread > reindeer_twink_gets_railed.mp4
Just have a Nintendo subforum. Everything Nintendo is in one place and there is enough threads to justify the subforum. Problem solved.
It's a bit odd that Nintendo being it's own subforum with enough topics to sustain it is the most optimal example of the new update but it's not even close.
That reminds me. As odd of a place as it is to come to a revelation, the Furry + Anime Porn thread brought up the splitting up as a potential issue when it was still up. People leaving to their own corners to post their weird shit alone would lead to stagnation, but the united degenerates community posting their own flavor of weird shit helped keep it alive, and kept it moving at the absurd pace it was.
HAHA YES!!! delete the megathreads. redditise the forums IMMEDIATELY. *sips soy milk*
"sift through content" Have you actually been in the megathreada before? AA and the Firearms threads are not so insanely populated that it takes hours to go through a few days of content. A page on AA can last a couple days, and one in the firearms thread can last a week. This isn't blisteringly fast content being flung at high speeds at the megathread, this is a steady, manageable flow. "Sifting through content" was never an issue.
Or making the root section its own browsable section. That'd help by having the basic pool of threads from all subforums while also allowing users to filter out the subforums if they're looking specifically for only threads from the root section. You can filter according to subforum for everything in a subforum but not the root forum yet. I think people are largely overreacting at the moment though. People are just going way overboard with the threads in new subforums when they don't need to. https://puu.sh/zXecW/395dfcc5aa.png This, for example. That's not really an issue with Garry's method. That's an issue with Mort Stroodle letting things get a bit out of hand. Things will slow down and it'll be less of an issue given some time. Also @garry , is there any particular reason that join dates in the profile box link to the first page currently viewed thread or is that just an oversight or something? And on the subforum entries, I think they could be handled a bit differently. Rather than just a mess of links like they are, maybe they could be done as an unordered list with multiple rows of links, according to view width, and a decent amount of padding each. Something along these lines, for example: https://i.imgur.com/r4dmn8W.png That's far more readable than the current method.
Good job Garry. In your effort to encourage people to see more threads you've made it harder to find anything and killed my interest in actually posting. Before I would know that if I asked a question in a megathread it would be seen and probably answered. Now If I make a question thread it'll be knocked back 3 pages in an hour and no one will ever see it. A+ implementation. Way to kill the forums.
Thanks for setting everyone back in discussion with this. On another hand, the Nintendo thread at one point was split on separating the threads into mobile and non mobile, but then once we split into two threads it was fine. So even megathreads can still create new threads if it really gets out of hand.
Kinda preferred the forum when it was less Reddit like. I really dislike the functionality of Reddit so I never browse it unless someone links me something, but now this site is turning into that kind of experience bit by bit. I've always preferred a forum structure where there's one megathread to post anything related to a topic in, and subforums that group related megathreads, rather than a bunch of threads sorted by tags you have to sift/sort through in a subforum. It adds extra clicks to see content and makes me less likely to read what people post. If I'm scrolling through a megathread and see a nice screenshot, I'll look at it and rate it, or if it's shit I'll keep scrolling to see whatever's below, but if I'm trawling through a bunch of threads titled "check out this neat screenshot" or "I found a funny bug" I'm not going to bother opening them because it means I have to click the thread, load the content, then go back to the thread list, versus just continuously scrolling in one thread. I browse FP primarily on mobile, and the site is still pretty janky, but now having to deal with even more loading and "that's not what I tapped you piece of shit browser/app" because content is further subdivided is annoying. It's already hard enough to rate posts with all the new emotes jammed onto one line that only appears if I tap near them (and if I want to see who rated what I end up accidentally rate something I might not want to and if no one else rated the symbol I want to rate I have to reload the page), and the new backgrounds taking up half my phone screen if I tap them while scrolling, or this fucking text box lagging and typing gibberish if I type too fast which no other website does for me, or Twitter embedded videos refusing to play unless I open the tweet (which half the time just brings me to the Twitter users profile), but now it's even harder to just browse content I want to see because there's more steps involved. Responsive design is important, a lot of people browse via mobile or tablets, and honestly I'm not sure some of these changes are better than the old way. Just because Vbulletin is old doesn't mean we have to change literally everything that works similarly. Just because Reddit is popular doesn't mean megathreads suck. I don't know, maybe I'm just an old man yelling at a crowd, but it's frustrating to see my most visited site change in a way I think personally is worse.
You've been around since 2007, you should know that this sort of attitude isn't going to convince Garry of shit. Try something a bit more constructive.
It might not be an issue if you were active in the thread during it's entire lifespan, but what about someone who isn't? It's either talk about the current digression or sift.
There should at least be a chat thread in each subforum, it's what builds the sense of community with posters and it gives first timers to the forums a place to break the ice since not everyone feels comfortable starting new threads.
...or ask a question or bring up a new topic? And if you asked a question, you get notified when someone replies to you. That's how I navigated to your post, actually.
Or act like a normal human being and change the topic/subject? Just because people are talking about one thing doesn't mean you can't bring something else up.
Or they ask if the topic came up before. Most of the time if the topic is old no one really gets bothered, they just answer the question and discussion continues.
And your new topic will be more likely to receive if you... actually make a new topic.
There has to be a better way.
That's what the point of all this is. To avoid multiple topics and subjects in one thread. If someone has a question, they can search for threads and thanks to new fancy features they can distinguish which questions are solved. Again, threads aren't supposed to be chatroom channels.
What happens if it gets ignored? It's usually more tolerated to bring the topic back up in a quote in case no one saw it in the megathread, but bumping old threads so it comes back to the top is annoying( and I'm assuming bannable still?)
I really don't think anything's gonna convince garry when they set this shit in motion when the UK losers are going to sleep and Hezzy's angst-replying to people in the Emporium thread
Yeah, and searching would be a whole lot more convenient if topics and questions had their own threads especially since - like I said above - you can see which question threads have been solved thanks to the new feature.
We are gonna go back to the good ol' days where you would type *bump* in your own thread over and over again until someone bothers to click on your thread and either help you or tell you to shut up.
But this literally does nothing to stop the chatroom mentality. All it does is make it poor out onto the thread listing, shitting up the front page of the forums. It also makes it difficult for new threads to get noticed with how quickly they drop off the front page. In addition you can just easily post a question and rate someone coin/diamond if they answer it?
I've been around long enough to know Garry doesn't give half a shit what the users of the forum think, no matter how politely they phrase their opinions. I'd rather be honest than courteous if I'm going to be ignored either way.
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