• Reorganize GGD subforums
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There's quite a few sub forums dedicated to a single game which I don't think will really be popular enough to sustain themselves Here's what we have right now. Team Fortress 2 Games In Progress Far Cry DOTA Overwatch Counter Strike Virtual Reality Gaming Half-Life PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds Mario Fortnite Grand Theft Auto The bolded ones I think can stay. Dota I think you need to close all the threads in there and mandate people start fresh if they're interested, because there's a bunch of 3 year old general chats in there. It's cool that we have the ability to make a bunch of new forums now but with dota it looks like you made a new one for the sake of making a new one. I think PUBG and fortnite could be condensed into Battle Royale, Overwatch should be turned into an activision/blizz subforum, Mario ought to be a nintendo sub forum, far cry should be a ubisoft forum. I know Garry wants there to be less megathreads and more proactive posting but I think the way games is set up right now is just a little too granular.
No - there's no need to delete subforums, it makes no difference. They're not hurting anyone.
Mario should be changed to Nintendo though. What Mario games are there to discuss, and what is there to discuss about them?
Large number of subforums isn't a bad thing, but I don't know if it does any good to have such specific ones. Dota 2 is the most time consuming game for me, and FP is the main place where I discuss Dota related things, but it having its own subforum doesn't really seem too important.. The general chat is the only one that gets traffic, even lower traffic on the last year or so than ever before, nobody uses the media thread or other non-general chat ones. I feel this is true to other subforums/games as well.
I don't think a lot of people were clamoring for a DOTA forum if the most recent post was a year ago. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/112373/9efe78ae-5ffa-4a01-bc9f-d02a4662399e/2018-04-05.png
Odyssey is a fairly new Mario game, but then again, it could probably just have its own thread in a Nintendo subforum...
It's a great game but I think the subforum will be kind of dead if they only thing we can talk about is mario. Where if it were a nintendo thread we could talk about arms, zelda, splatoon, etc. maybe megathreads can stick around but with a rule that you cannot be allowed to make a series megathread. so no mario megathread or zelda megathread, but there can be a thread about breath of the wild or link between worlds.
But that's really stupid. That just leaves a mess all over the forum, with topics/games being dropped per release.
And what about games that don't have a subforum, like (as of right now) Warframe, R6 and Fallout? If anything they're going to forced to stick to megathreads to keep discussion from being swept away by all the smaller threads in the subforums. Like, Overly specific subforums or not, displaying a subforum's threads in it's parent board kills discussion about anything but what there's a subforum for.
I honestly think the GTA subforum will be super dead when Red Dead Redemption 2 comes out.
There is absolutely 0 reason to show subforum threads in the parent forum. You say you don't want megathreads because it'll bump questions from users to obscurity, but that's practically what you're doing for entire series megathreads with this change. Then there's the issue with overly specific subforums like "Mario" or "Fortnite". Is there enough discussion about these games to warrant an entire subforum to them, rather than an overall "Nintendo" or "Battle Royale"?
What's the point of having the threads show up in GGD if they're in a subforum in the first place? If I wanted to see PUBG related content I'd be looking in the section right?
Mario = Nintendo Pretty simple concept
I don't think the current approach is very good, it would be better if a thread could have multiple tags and be included in multiple subforums. So a Mario game could be tagged as Mario, Nintendo and Platformer, kind of like how a porn site works with categories.
Where do I post my questions about drugs guys??? I only see a section for durgs, what am I gonna do????
I imagine the logic being used here is that there was for a short period of time today a Nintendo subforum, with the Nintendo thread tagged, but that got removed and we got Mario subforum after that. Where do you post about durgs if there's only a subforum for bath salts?
I'm wondering why you've latched on to that one specific point and ignored everything else? Yeah Mario means Nintendo but why can't it just be that? Most sections have a quirky header or name behind them but how at a glance is seeing Mario next to Fortnite/PUBG/Dota not going to seem like a section specifically for Mario games, just seems a little obtuse for the sake of it especially when you want to filter threads you want people to know what section to put them in.
But it doesn't? When Nintendo changed to Mario the Nintendo threads were moved back to the GGD.
I really don't think that Garry is serious about a Mario only section, it's not like it's Nintendo's main property or anything or that Garry has always been serious about naming things like this
I hadn't seen the section yet but since everyone in defence of the changes is saying that it's "obvious" that it means the Nintendo section I just assumed. It does make sense that Nintendo has a section over Mario related content...
We want people to spread themselves out. Yes, there may have previously only been one thread active for Dota but lots of different issues were discussed in there. All we're trying to do is to encourage people to make threads rather than trying to keep on top of 4 simultaneous discussions within the same thread.
why have a specific subforum for games where the megathreads generally moved pretty slow, though? it makes sense for multiplayer games like TF2 and whatnot, but do we really need an entire subforum dedicated to half-life when realistically people will only use the general chat thread 99% of the time anyway? just seems like a waste of space to me
Like garry said it isn't hurting anybody. If need be I can make it drop off the front page. We don't want people to use megathreads anymore. This is what I'm trying to explain. They should spread the topics out throughout the forum.
Dont look at it like a subfourm, just a way to view the all the threads about a specific topic
I really feel like that's such a blanket solution that it's disregarding the fact that some subjects (such as a single-player franchise that hasnt released a game in 11 years) simply dont need anything more than one megathread TF2, pubg, counter-strike etc make perfect sense to have their own subforum with a lot of smaller threads, but I extremely highly doubt that Far Cry will ever reach more than 2 pages worth of threads before the game is totally irrelevant
Again, what about individual games or series that don't have subforums? You're neglecting to mention what happens with these. Nobody is arguing AGAINST subforums, we're arguing the decision to have subforum threads show up in the parent forum, obscuring threads for games and series without a subforum.
also - why is "film, television, and music" still a thing under this new policy? seems like it'd make more sense to have a separate subcategory for film, TV shows, music, anime, etc etc if we're going by the same logic of the video game subforums
the idea here was very very cool in theory but there are just too many game subforums to make this work. threads made in the GGD forum are being suffocated.
Then where's the dwarf fortress subforum? Where's the XCOM subforum? Where's the R6S subforum? Where's the Dark Souls subforum? Unless you create a subforum for literally every single game anybody might want to discuss then this entire system falls apart, because you can't find those threads in the sea of small threads you're directly encouraging people to make. Do you really think it's feasible to make a subforum for every single game that people might want to discuss? And props to you if you think that you can do it, but why are we implementing this broken version of that before we actually have the number of subs we need to make that work?
what if the GGD only showed threads from subforums that are extremely popular? let's say tf2 just got a big update and someone made a thread in the tf2 subforum about the update. since 120 people are reading it, the thread would be shown in the GGD forum
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