Lab-Grown Meat Is Coming to Your Supermarket. Ranchers Are Fighting Back.
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Animals will be hunted regardless, as populations have to be maintained. May as well eat them.
I don't think the two concepts are so different. To me, the most important part is that an animal does not suffer. From hunting, sure, we can't tell what kind of life Bambi had, but we can guess it was probably better than Bob the Chicken's life, who lived in a cage, was forcefed antibiotics, and died covered in feces (I know I'm exaggerating). Also with hunting, you have licenses that ensure that animals are not over-hunted, and it does play a small part in protecting the environment.
With lab grown meat, no animal suffers, because a clump of cells doesn't have sentience.
I wouldn't mind eating myself.
And I’m all good with getting rid of factory farming and it could entirely be on me that I took his post to be more hardline than it is.
Im reminded of the issue with “Antler”, a toronto restaurant that specializes in ethical farming, farm to table, and ethical treatment of live stock. They’ve been receiving protests for a year from hardcore vegans trying to shut them down. A lot of good people are turned into targets in some of these issues.
Factory farming is bad though
I can imagine a business that grows meat out of your ass cells so you can send it to people you hate so they can eat your ass.
Everyone. Self-Cannibalism is something that almost all humans do in some capacity. Either by accidnetal consumption of skin while sucking a wounded finger, or consumption via dead skin entering your mouth while you sleep. Not to mention blood/skin in your mucus.
VR simulator with a meat dispenser.
Boring, I wanna be a hamburger.
I'd argue factory farming is a bit worse than hunting in the wild.
Problem is that people should be advocating better environments for farm-raised animals just as much as this synthetic beef people seem to like.
Do you really believe that people aren't?
I imagine having just meat and not meat filled with stress hormone is probably already better
Modern ranchers don't abuse their animals though. Its an issue with Chicken farming for sure but for cattle you get worse quality meat altogether from abusive practices. Its been shown repeatidly that the less suffering an animal goes through the less they tense up and as such the better the meat tastes.
This idea that we just whole abuse animals has a long history of being half true, half false.
I eat a plant based diet for sustainability, health and ethical reasons, and while I probably wouldn't incorporate lab grown meat into my diet (I'll definitely try it though), replacing livestock farming would still be a definite plus for environmental sustainability and ethics.
Same, more interested in things like the impossible burger. But this sorta thing is a great step for the future of sustainable food.
Nah, PETA gets their dicks hard at torturing animals actually. PETA per year kills more animals than all kill shelters in the US combined + their facilities have been known to be havens of animal neglect and abuse.
The biggest hurdle for alot of meat eaters, if it taste as good as regular meat and people can't tell, you can be sure alot of folks won't mind changing their diets.
hey
can you back up that claim with literally a single fact or figure
cause it seems to me you literally just pulled this out your ass
Unlikely to go extinct, but the cow and pig population would sure drop precipitously. Probably by more than 90%, since there's no reason to keep them outside of meat most of the time. What few remain will be as curiosities or to feed a small portion of the population that demands 'real' meat.
I feel like there's a pretty high incentive for researchers to recreate "all those factors." There's an increasing desire by consumers to consume less traditional farmed meats (mostly as a result of greater levels of social conscience regarding animal cruelty, in addition to the more recent concerns about environmental sustainability of beef farming), but people feel that there is no substitute that comes even close. I think a lab-grown meat that hits near enough to the mark could easily win over many people, provided it's marketed right.
I probably shouldn't have said 'healthy.' I was just talking about how it has the most relevant proteins in it for humans, so is much more effective per gram in that sense than chicken, for example. Obviously I am not advising that people become cannibals...
Sprinkle some competition onto it and I could totally see biotech companies trying to one-up each other in that regard
I want a scientifically perfect lab made burger so bad that it hurts. I want all my meat supplies to be synthetic.
Yes, the suffering makes things more tasty of course.
The difference between that stuff and us is that a lot of that is nature running its own course and each factor doing what they can for their own survival, while factory farms are a deliberate thing on humans that aren't for survivals sake and can be stopped at any time for no loss or even to our benefit.
I didn’t defend factory farming dude. Try reading more of what was actually said.
Now as to the claim “no loss and even our benefit” I don’t think that’s true explicitly.
This is a big game changer, not even for morals and humane farming.
Most of our grains go towards feeding livestock, if all meat was replaced with lab-grown meat, it'd be far more efficient than anything we've seen before.
This might literally solve world hunger.
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