Excuse me, how in the hell is a "stronger stomach" preventing me from not seeing a spade as a spade. If I didn't have a stronger stomach i wouldn't be listening to Tyler often or watch filthy frank. Both of them are separate from their fictional characters, I haven't seen hyde or ethan ever come out and say its a character or do anything outside of character.
In general I don't really buy "oh it's all just a big satire/parody of x thing" to explain away weird shit that online personalities say and do. I don't really understand why Filthy Frank did that as well, I think it stood up on its own without the weird explanation that "Frank is the embodiment of everything terrible on the internet." It was more than enough that Frank was just continually being as retarded as possible.
I cringe whenever I hear anyone used the term SJW. It's such a vapid and vague term that its own use renders it redundant as anything and anyone can be labelled as such under the right circumstances. Calling someone an SJW these days is like calling someone a communist in the 1950s - you don't even really have to do anything to earn the label and it doesn't matter if you do deserve it or not because people who disagree with you will use it so that they don't have actually have to address your arguments. The fact is that you could potentially fall under the label of SJW if you are anything but authoritarian right because it covers such a redundantly broad range of beliefs that anyone could be a target. It's done nothing but divide people and contribute to the dumbing down of politics. It's like people just can't resist creating this ideological bogeyman without considering political nuances.
Unfortunately a stronger brain would have been more helpful in understanding how satire actually works.
well that's just incredibly rude for no reason
I don't think it was an unseasonably dickish response to the "stronger stomach" remark.
What do you mean that satire doesn't need a serious tone most of the time, wouldn't that help the illusion of it being something honest. For example, Jonathan Swift's was widely regarded as serious, because of the language and how he chose to present the subject. I think it would be very exclusive to say that satire can't take certain forms.
To be fair, you need to have a 200 iq to understand satire...
there was a time when I thought that could be true, so I kept following MDE to try and "get" the satire
then sam went to charlottesville and donated a $5000 to a nazi's legal defense fund
majority of satire is the opposite of serious, hence why i said almost never. Jonathan swift is the rare exception, but h3h3 or sam both do the same shit they preach on the show in all their other forms of communication, so its not satire or a character.
There's a difference between dark/black comedy and the shit Hyde does. Which has flat out damaging consequences and is actually fueling a cause that is directly trying to find ways to hurt/ kill people. Its not about "Uh you have no sense of humor". It's called having a fucking conscious/realizing shit has fucking consequences.
He's really not over the top at all though, compared to the likes of Carlgon or Warcorpse he looks downright sane.
https://twitter.com/h3h3productions/status/1001547652410916864
He needs to just shut up about this kind of shit and let it blow over on his own without giving his input
It doesn't even matter if he's right or wrong, the way he approaches this stuff just sounds idiotic
did he delete those tweets? can't see them.
Possibly he decided defending Roseanne "Make 'Em Wear a Star" Barr wasn't the hill to die on.
apparently
https://twitter.com/h3h3productions/status/1001553965119516672
also not uh... gracefully?
Honestly I get pretty annoyed when I see people waving around "ur offended" to people nowadays. It's a non-argument since all it is is attacking someone's emotions rather than what they're actually saying. You could say it offends me even.
Pretty cowardly thing to say after deleting his original tweets.
Could it be that random gaming/comedy/whatever Youtubers really aren't the best source of valuable opinions? Yes, I think it could be.
The problem is you can't really stop people from taking cues from people they look up to.
why did he delete the tweet if they were offended. If anything now hes offended they are offended.
Being offended at the idea of other people being offended is the majority of H3H3's content at this point.
Tbh the day H3H3 turned away from simply making fun of dumb videos and started doing opinion pieces or whatever is the day I rolled my eyes to the back of my cranium. But yeah, I think it's irresponsible of these youtubers to start splurging their opinions onto a massive audience that followed them for other reasons.
I mean, most adults i ever heard use it actually just used it to refer to people who virtue signal about social equality and tolerance only to turn around and do or say something totally sociopathic. Like our man destiny or the peope dancing on Totalbiscuit's grave.
I agree that the way the term is most often used is just juvenile venting from emotionally stunted people, but the term has a very specific set of people it refers to and always referred to and in that context, it's really not all that silly. It's a sarcastic name for douchy people pretending to be the moral be all and end all of humanity. I don't see how that's at all the same as using the term "commie" in the 50s or even now. The people using it in a way comparable to that would probably be angsty as fuck.
Sarkeesian is an SJW, Brianna Wu is an SJW, Destiny probably fits the bill. It's just a term to label hypocrites that are using the good intentions of others to impose their backwards views and are being bullies once in a position of social control. It's a way to label the people who claim control of a positive societal change and turn it into something negative, a way to control silence people.
TL;DR: it's not just a paranoid alt-right term.
"Humor is subjective" isn't an excuse for being a piece of garbage. Most comedians consider "punching down" to be in poor form.
I think more than anyone, it's the people who feel lumped in with the term who has been re-defining the term to include themselves. Them and the alt-right. I don't think you'll find a politically moderate or progressive person ever use the term in a way that refers to what essentially amounts to being emotionally well balanced and socially functional. Which i guess Actual SJW's and Alt-righers really are not.
What i'm saying is that this re-definition was engineered to invalidate the criticism the term initially leveled at these people: pandering to an audience for money while being a hypocritical dickhole.
The vast majority of h3 content nowadays is a not very intelligent man (I'm not saying this in a mean way) making reactionary comments about topics that he doesn't really understand, and then apologising for them when he calms down.
I used to really like h3 but I haven't watched any content in a year because it's just cringe - If I wanted someone's opinion on current events, I'd watch a current events channel ran by someone who actually knew what they were talking about.
The Podcast is the worst for this; it's a shitty podcast, Ethan is a shitty host who doesn't give his guests enough time to talk about whatever they want to talk about before interjecting with 'lol so how about ghosts, right'. He's also guilty of the same reactionary bullshit on there, but it's worse on the podcast because it's in front of a live audience. He eggs himself on.
Seems more like its just a good label for people you disagree with without having to go onto any real depth why
That's not what i've been saying though. It's true that that's how the Alt-right uses it to dismiss progressive people and their ideas and it's true that it's how the regressive left uses it to misconstrue criticism against them as bigoted.
Doesn't change that in most mainstream conversations, it just refers to sociopathic virtue signalers who not only do not practice the tolerance they preach, but also tend to speak against that same idea of tolerance when dealing with people they don't deem worthy of tolerance.
This is a couple days old but I wanted to chime in and say that this is pretty much completely false, Destiny has used a racial slur to insult somebody in-game once, in which he called a player a gook for typing in Korean while under the impression they were white (they were not, thus the controversy). He has literally never used that word since in his career so I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that he "REALLY loves it" from, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're repeating something someone said elsewhere. As for death threats in games, he's done that once (noticing a trend here) years ago in League, IIRC because someone was stream sniping and throwing his games. Generally his worst habits in this area were when "faggot" and "kill yourself" were his go-to insults, but he's deliberately completely dropped the former and I can't remember the last time I've heard the latter. His position on this type of language has changed over the years and has admitted that he shouldn't be using "autistic" or "retarded" either. And I have no idea what you're referring to with that last point, can you remember any examples of this?
I follow Destiny pretty closely, and it's pretty frustrating seeing these memes echoed throughout various communities despite being either flat-out wrong or grossly exaggerated. I can understand why someone wouldn't like his personality or his content, he's definitely a polarizing figure in that regard, but claiming that he spams racial slurs and death threats is just so obviously not true to people who actually watch his stream, and despite this it's still a very common thing to hear.
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