Cooliest/Uglest Weapons v10 - FAL Pride World Wide - General

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqvzGlsl4yI

That's a non-functional mock-up by the Sterling company, made to prove a political point that the L85 was merely an AR-18 in a bullpup body kit. This mock-up was constructed in only a few days, a couple weeks at most, to show how easy it was to simply turn an AR-18 into a bullpup. Ultimately though, the presentation really went nowhere, as enough of the L85s internals had apparently been sufficiently dissimilar from AR-18 internals.

"The Bundeswehr is filing paperwork for 17 left handed recruits who were maimed by ejected brass during yesterday's trial of an experimental bullpup G3. Foreign military correspondent Hans Köller has more on the story, coming up at 11"

I know, that just makes it funnier

Considering most information about the Su-57 is classified, that claim is a bit weird. Isn't the F-22 just an Su-27 with a stealth body kit? Sure, the US government says they made it themselves, but unless they're handing them over to a third party, I don't trust it. It's twin-engine and is somewhat similar in shape to the Su-27, so it must be the same. Also, the SU-57's engines are by no means anemic. 1 engine makes 9 kN thrust less than the F-22's engines, but with afterburners on, it makes 20 kN more than the F-22's with afterburner on. The engine weighs a few hundred kgs less, and the whole plane loaded for a typical mission weighs 4 tons less than the F-22. This gives a it a slightly higher thrust-weight ratio than the F-22, and comparable to the Eurofighter Typhoon's. You're thinking of the early production Su-57's, which use a different engine. It still has a thrust-weight ratio equal to the F-22's though.

the f-22's engine was pretty conservative. the competitor to it had an all composite fancase that would have drastically reduced the weight of each engine's compressor section and produced more thrust but they went with lockheed's design instead. also take any info on the F22 with a grain of salt, the actual performance characteristics are probably classified still

In the case of the F-22 vs. the YF-23 for the ATF program, IIRC a big part of what lead to the Raptor winning over the Black Widow II was the Raptor demonstrator firing missiles in the test, and the Raptor being more suitable for the NATF program the Navy wanted to conduct (though that was eventually scrapped). And that's all a shame, since the YF-23 was a really, really slick plane. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Northrop_YF-23_DFRC.jpg/300px-Northrop_YF-23_DFRC.jpg

Regardless, the F-22's engines still have some of the highest thrust of modern fighters. If we're comparing the Su-57's engines to any other jet fighter's, only the F-35 has more thrust per engine, but that only has a single engine.

Can we discuss the F-14 Tomcat? https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1495466/size/tmg-article_main_wide.jpg hnnnngggg its so right

I love it, but I must say I prefer the Su-24 over it: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/211377/f33ddba9-17a6-4206-936b-26277e6f3784/image.png It looks a lot slimmer and sleeker, with straight lines rather than the bulging F-14 wings.

f-14 looks hencher, it'd deffo win in a wrestling match

cool little spy gun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lFslAG9m-o

The F-14 is better for air superiority, while the Su-24 is an all-weather all-rounder like the F-35 is. The Su-24 has 9 hardpoints, while the F-14 has 10. The Su-24 can carry 8 tons of ordnance, while the F-14 only carries 6.6 tons. The F-14 can be used for bombing targets as well, but the Su-24 was made for it. They're just two different planes that look alike, but aren't really that similar.

oh yes they're a masterpiece of design, but its always one of those paths not taken. We really don't know. I think maintinence would have increased by a lot and the technology to spin that sort of part wasn't exactly ready for prime time either, but the performance boost might have been worth it.

The tornado says screw you https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/113069/5123618c-f822-42a1-8ead-9a953fd33a32/image.png

The F-35 is fine. It doesn't need two engines. It doesn't require a high thrust-weight ratio, it isn't an air superiority fighter or interceptor. Like the Su-24, it is an all-weather multi-role fighter. It's a jack of all trades.

i was talking about this http://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/styles/desktop__1486_x_614/public/main_images/1024px-YF-23_top_view_0.jpg?itok=qwkgxxCz and its composite based engine http://yf-23.net/Pics/Walkaround/Engine/YF119/P&W%20YF119%20YF-23.jpg I have some pictures of this up close on my old phone, the only surviving examples are in the dayton airforce base museum and its experimental aircraft hanger

That is undoubtedly one of the coolest designs I've seen in a while, but that was the rival for the F-22. And it had the same engine as it, with the same output. It was lighter than the F-22, but so was the YF-22. So not much would have changed in regards to power.

No the YF-23 had 2 engine options, one by GE and one by PW, the first prototype used the PW one which was what became the f-22's engine, while the 2nd prototype, the one in the dayton airforce museum, used the GE engines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2Uoxg-Nsa8

Still flying operationally too. The Iranian's are in the process of refitting them with indigenous radars and equipment. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/223974/b430be98-9623-43bb-a6b4-61d5d236da1b/4207755.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Jn1EiyO.jpg https://static.businessinsider.com/image/5b4cfe7dc0229b11698b4580.jpg RAF's Tempest concept which is designed to replace the Eurofighter Typhoon

Didnt they just get the Typhoon like 15 years ago? Its' still the most advanced 4++ Gen fighter out there, why do they need to replace it already?

It's not very stealthy, first flew in the 1980s (i.e. it took 15 years to get into service) and it will take 10 to 15 years to get a replacement into service, by that time the aircraft will be well over 30 years old.

That wasn't specifically for the YF-23, it was also installed on the YF-22. Didn't make it to the final production model though.

brexiting out of European defense contracting

https://youtu.be/5sn346sYXys Is it acceptable to wolf-whistle at a gun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65weTx0haog the F14 you said?

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/58168/26554bf6-b788-4a2a-9fb5-f242ec11d267/IMG_20180717_130848617[1].jpg Been trying to figure out how I'm gonna go about the trigger mechanism with a hammer that's a straight rod. I figure the I could go for a three-lug lock system, but it's gonna be such a pain in the ass to fit it in such a small space.

Sounds like your hammer is actually a striker, in which case all your trigger needs is a sear surface that pulls against it and releases it at the preferred extent of travel.