Cooliest/Uglest Weapons v10 - FAL Pride World Wide - General

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/113069/68f3fb79-bb6e-419a-8614-277b218809c1/image.png dat camo

Seriously can anyone explain to me why the Swedes are so obsessed with painting their guns green? To be fair not all our guns are green. Pistol 88, AK4 and the KSP 90 are black. https://www.soldf.com/images/s_pistol88.jpg https://hemvarnet.se/UserFiles/Nyheter/forband/25/Bilder%202016/1461580037_skottrig.jpg https://www.soldf.com/images/s_ksp90skytt.jpg All in all the green paint works well out in the woods though. It just looks... natural.

Honestly the AK4 being black is even more confusing because the original G3 actually is green! https://gastatic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/1.jpg

Step aside, best PDW moving through: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/211377/9e2505aa-e42c-49f7-a387-b9a2f3ca128a/image.png It doesn't need weird quirky shit like the MP7 and P90 have. It has a grip, a trigger, a magazine and a barrel. And some Communist magic somewhere in there. It isn't very accurate, but it's a PDW, it doesn't have to be. The bullet itself is lethal to ranges outside of it's effective range, so that compensates a bit.

Multicam Black: for when you want to look like a traditional LE/SWAT unit but all the cool guys are going Multicam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIU8axpaYi0

one barrel for when its quiet, one for when its loud.

I don't even remember where I heard it, it's been so long. That sounds more sensible though.

Yeah that was the big deal of the AR design, the barrel, bolt, carrier, impingement, recoil spring, and stock are all perfectly concentric and in line with each other. This reduces the upward impulse of recoil and prevents parts from peening off one another, over time all mechanical parts will wear down, but being in line reduces both the amount of wear, and that wear's ability to impede function.

I mean, the G17 gets the job done. Not like you're going to win a firefight out in the woods with it but for MPs, medics and motorcyclists it works fine. Aside from those three professions the Pistol 88 is only used by some of our Ranger units as a backup weapon.

Can't post pics, Sweden took them all away from me, so have this instead https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/a6/78/e9a6786b89149fb40ab941d3b7286dec.jpg

I know, it's just, something like a Sig P226 seems more fitting for a military role. A Glock looks like it belongs in the hands of someone who subsists off of a diet of donuts, stale coffee and constant, bitter complaints about how the department is fucking him over. It's like the modern S&W Model 10.

https://i.imgur.com/5rCwiet.jpg Nah, this is where it's at.

Here, I'll help you: http://www.stentecknare.se/bilder/kongo-vaktplut.jpg https://static.metro.se/9d9/d39/K-pistM45CarlGustavw-LARGE.jpg http://www.stentecknare.se/bilder/kongo-kpist.jpg https://static1.squarespace.com/static/4ff4aea3e4b0b15e996ebda6/t/50e44e78e4b015296ceb7007/1357139579177/KA1-narfS-aug1957-Bodskar-KJ-a-dyk.png?format=1500w

Fun fact, That's a very early M231, as they were first adopted in 1979. The A1 upper is just being used because the rifle was developed from the M16A1 and they already had the parts in production, but the rear sight and forward assist are somewhat redundant. The rear sight for obvious reasons, but the forward assist is pointless because the M231 fires from an open bolt. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/107029/e834b062-5863-4258-80a2-943d0874a233/FiringPortWeapon1.jpg The A1 upper is just being used because the rifle was developed from the M16A1 and they already had the parts in production, but the rear sight and forward assist are somewhat redundant. The rear sight for obvious reasons, but the forward assist is pointless because the M231 fires from an open bolt. Here's the later, more common variant. The slickside upper, unmachined rear sight and simple tube stock are the features most commonly seen. They never changed the designation, but the later M231s were made without stocks or sights to discourage people using them outside of the Bradley. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/107029/4359cd5a-56ca-4c69-8410-240901fc4a4c/m231_brd.jpg

https://youtu.be/eK033fuNi9Y DNR is working on a new SMG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9M6Wxolfuo

So I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcrASUJR59Y

Oy UK posters even though 80% of our armed police use MP5s or G36s i've noticed in a number of images that more and more ARs are popping up and suprisingly most of them are not standard M4s or picatinny, does anyone have any info on what they are? Sec 5 purchases or Lantec? British produced? Got no idea. What makes me wonder is how different they all are, stocks, magazines, attatchments, makes, they're all varying which makes me wonder if they're being purchased through section 5 dealers but that seems pretty implausible. https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/06/05/14/armedpolice.jpg https://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/gettyimages-688974938.jpg?quality=85 https://windowsontheworld.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/104674654_Police_counter_terrorism_officers_pose_during_a_media_opportunity_in_London_Wednesday_Aug-xlarge_transoi9wRpRogYEyvW8ksEDNKl4RsAJjORnPdNlOYX45nIc.jpg http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/resources/images/6386620/?type=responsive-gallery-fullscreen

I think it's pretty much guaranteed that the government doesn't buy guns through your typical firearms dealers. It's like the military. The gun in the picture of the CT SFO guys is a Sig MCX. The other pictures are too small to identify any of them, but the Police have been known to use LMT AR-15s. They're just buying semi-auto ARs from US manufacturers and accessories to go on them.

Also some British forces and police use Canadian C8 ARs. https://i.imgur.com/I5b0Clc.jpg These are known as IUR or Integrated Upper Receivers because the hand guard an upper receiver are a single piece.

Who do Section 5 dealers sell to apart from the Northern Irish and historical pistols on a 7.1/3? Foreign market?

I prefer this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kFMRu-KKys Nothing says proper armor strategy like shoving down waves of BT-7s down infantry's throat.

This triggers me on so many levels. Why was the US base nestled in the bottom of a valley? How did a huge Chinese assault wave get so close to that base in secret? Did the US soldiers not perform even the most basic of watches, something that would be hard ingrained into the US military after Banzai charges? Why did they need to bring their mountain guns right up to the perimeter of the base to use them? Even the shortest ranged mountain gun should have a range of a few thousand metres. How did the human wave have such low (ha!) casualties despite facing machines guns? 0/10 Chinese propoganda.

No shit its propaganda, but human wave attacks were documented in the korean war. Usually they do night raids rather than daylight charges.

In terms of the Korean War, "human wave" is a bit of a misleading term, I find. The tactic isn't an uncontrolled tsunami. "Human sea" is better. It's not about trying to overwhelm your enemy everywhere at once, it's about hitting one specific narrow point over and over and over and over again with repeated waves of small teams, until you grind the defenders in that section down to nothing, and you can pour everyone else through the gap and exploit the confusion. That way you're only taking fire from a small portion of the enemy defences until you're in amongst them. Which is why they tended to do it on hills, because if you use the terrain well, they can get very close and launch the repeated attacks from short range while everyone else stays in cover until it's their turn. It's not one big wave, it's lot's of little sneaky waves hitting the same point until there's a tiny crack in the wall and the sea pours through. Everyone else is doing their best to stay hidden and safe until it's their turn to go. The brutality of it is that each wave is essentially do or die, and because you're attacking that small point repeatedly, you're going to leave a patch of ground with piles of your own dead. You just repeat it indefinitely until it works or you don't have enough manpower to exploit the breach.

Some of those weapons don't seem to be right...

No shit, that's not what I was criticising. Except that's not what happened there (did you miss the bit where they did almost none of that?). The US base failed to take very basic precautions, was poorly laid out (allowing Chinese troops to get way too close), and the casulties the Chinese too k was way too low for running at machine guns.

Its a movie, obviously they will take some creative directions for viewers.

Not to mention the fact that the Chinese completely threw us for a loop after fighting the Germans in WW2, then the North Koreans just prior to China entering the war. We were used to fighting against a conventional army using mechanized warfare and everything that goes along with it. We relied on the appearance of supply dumps, staging areas and the like to give us intel on upcoming offensives. The Chinese were primarily light infantry at the time. They had a light logistics footprint, so there were no supply or vehicle buildups to warn us of an attack. It was very effective early on, particularly as a psychological weapon. Once we replaced that INCOMPETENT FUCKING COWARD known as Douglas MacArthur with someone who wasn't a nervous, insubordinate, self-serving piece of shit, things started going more our way, since the Chinese lacked the armor or firepower necessary to do much more than just feed bodies into the meat-grinder in an open fight with us.