Automotive Addicts V8 Pt. 2 - Real Motors have 8 cylinders and Pushrods Edt. - General

Mazdas are pretty, but Volvo is just a smidge better looking: https://article.images.consumerreports.org/prod/content/dam/CRO%20Images%202018/Cars/February/CR-Cars-Inline-2019-Volvo-V60-r-2-18 http://performancedrive.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/2019-Volvo-S60.jpg

sold in japan/asia only car, it's basically a lexus

I think the Big 3 have great looking flagship cars in the US. The Challenger, Charger, Camaro, Corvette, Mustang, etc. all look fine as fuck. Ordinary sedans are a bit plain these days though, BMW has some nice looking offerings. The Chrysler 300 is pretty nice looking too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9r_nMzdTu4

I used to really like the 300C but for some reason they've completely flipped around their styling - the high end ones now have all their trim pieces in gaudy chrome. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/114112/7bbd5140-19ca-487f-aedf-fd7cef4f60fb/image.png Ugh. I otherwise really like Chrysler/Dodge styling since the FIAT takeover, but christ they're all slapped together garbage underneath. And every FCA company website is terrible.

N-no... this can't be. I'm only 24....

Not quite, they can also be found anywhere that drives on the left, eg Australia, NZ and probably the UK. That particular Mark X G’s is for sale in Queensland.

volvo and mazda have the best design language right now

Bitch please. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/PRR_4877.JPG/1200px-PRR_4877.JPG http://screanews.us/SamSites/JpgCarFins/1938_Buick.jpg I'm an unapologetic sucker for art deco "go faster" stripes/slats, prove me wrong.

I'm perpetually on the fence about this stripe https://images.carscoops.com/2016/11/mx5ndv8.jpg

One of my career goals as an electrical engineer is to find a way to get GG1s to operate under their own power again.

it's actually easier than one would think. People say that there's nowhere for them to run without a fundimental alteration (motors, primarily) because the electric routes were converted to a more modern standard. But the planned modernization was never undertaken, meaning most of the NEC and such are still on 11,000 volt 25hz power. Meaning all the people saying 'something something the electrics cannot ever run again" are talking out of their ass. Just slap some new transformers and such from a modern scrap locomotive, wire it all up to the original motors and away you go. However, the frames have a problem in that the metallurgy wasn't so great, and after their milion billion miles and 50 years of service, the crystal structure is kinda fucked and the frames constantly cracked, which is the real reason they went away. That's the real problem they have. It's fixable but it'll be a chronic worry on any 'restored' gg1

Tesla's lead designer used to work for Mazda, so they share a lot of design features. Teslas seem like a next gen Mazda, though the Model 3 does seem to take on more of a Porsche look. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1724/5219/articles/multi-coat-red-tesla-model-3-19-inch-tst-turbine-style-wheels-matte-black-wm-1.jpg?v=1523471622 https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XRI1yiQR--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/rmgimpvqwthqcdhf5pnk.png http://motoraty-media.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Tesla-Model-3-rear-three-quarter.jpg

I like the general shape but the front (where the grill would be) looks hideous

I really hate the Ioniq's fake grill for the EV version, it looks cheap. The Model S does the front end better though: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/MWugWndEdkC6ZmwvnZV1tWPVdy4=/0x0:2040x1360/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:2040x1360)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9097615/twarren_08202017_1939_0011.jpg

Ioniqs fake grill looks better than the Model 3s 'I have no mouth and I must scream' look though.

EV's should have grills. Not only do they break up the look of the otherwise massive open space, like on the model 3, but it's something we expect on all cars, and it simply looks more... car-ish?? than not having one.

Nah, that would be just as bad as fake vents or those idiotic fake exhaust tips or bits of plastic painted to look like carbon fibre. If they have to resort to putting fake elements into the design to make it look better, the end product is a poor design. They should go back to the drawing board and make a design that works without a grille.

It's different but looks good IMO. I don't think we should have to keep doing things the same way just because that's how it always has been. Hyundai's EV grill design isn't really for me: https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/916x515/quality/95/https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/728/969/0/S7289690/slug/l/01-2019-hyundai-kona-electric-ny-1.jpg

this is another thing that burns my nutsack, over-designed shit that screams LOOK AT ME PEASANT IM THE FUTURRRRRRRRRE. Like fuck just design a car without having a pencil orgy for christs sake. I don't just mean that hyndai specifically but EVERYTHING.

I just reckon it looks shit especially when you look at the Model S and X and they have that little grill thing that helps to put a bit of detail instead of just leaving a massive bland empty spot. The PT cruiser is something that tried to look different to everything else and it ended up looking like a massive piece of shit. some dude made a photoshop of the 3 with the S grill and it looks way better https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm7lSl3W8AAWduz.jpg

My dear dudes. The racecar is done Facepunch Racing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKYKScm0PzQ Watching these old racers get thrown around was genuinely pornographic, especially that bike. God damn.

I'm not going to deny that the Model S has a better front end, it looks great. I still think the 3s looks good though, just not as good. I quite like body colour grills, the solid plastic ones don't look that great. If you have a large front end like on the Kona it looks bad though. I don't really like the Kia Nero EV grill either: https://www.kia.com/us/k3/content/media/mediabin/content_pages//CMS/non-vehicles/vehicles/upcoming-vehicles/niro-ev_2019/gallery/gallery_niro-ev_2019_exterior_white--kia-960x-jpg.jpg But in darker colours like blue it's not as bad: https://www.kia.com/us/k3/content/media/mediabin/content_pages//CMS/non-vehicles/vehicles/upcoming-vehicles/niro-ev_2019/gallery/gallery_niro-ev_2019_exterior_blue--kia-960x-jpg.jpg It probably would've looked better if they just left the grill alone, rather than covering it with plastic. https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/kia-niro.jpg?itok=988A4b0y

That explains it. I always though the Model S looked exactly a Mazda 6 with a terrible trim and some bad lifechoices behind it.

I forget which one of you it was that had a hard on for the Beetle but one of his first projects was the new Beetle concepts back in the 90s.

>implying cars need grilles for the styling to work https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/1963_Studebaker_Avanti_gold_at_Concord_University.JPG/1200px-1963_Studebaker_Avanti_gold_at_Concord_University.JPG http://www.vaultcars.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_7751.jpg They're just stuck in old design terms. The sign of bad designers is not approaching a new problem fresh, and just trying to do the same old shit as before on it. Though in fairness, you can't really play with leading lines or volume as much as you could back in the day. headlight position is fixed, bumper position is fixed, areo and pedestrian safety dictates the main shape etc.

Teslas without grills remind me of The Matrix, when Neo's mouth disappears in the police station.

Anyone else like cars with "a bit of a reputation" which you can pick up cheap and actually aren't as bad as their reputation? I've got an MG TF and an Alfa Romeo 159 :-) both are fine and haven't been particularly expensive to maintain thus far.

So could I actually get y'alls opinion on this, just to check my path of logic? So a seized engine due to metal shavings that is know to fuck up oil flow is a defect of this model and subject for recall. With this much oil on the ground after coasting ~1/4 mile after seizure it would make sense that the engine seized prior to losing all oil, not because it ran dry, right?