Automotive Addicts V8 Pt. 2 - Real Motors have 8 cylinders and Pushrods Edt. - General

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So I had an idea for my other AW11. You fellas think a 13b would be able to fit in one?

That 220hp is in a car that weighs about 4600lbs, so it balances out. IMO it’s way more fair to compare power to weight ratio than just horsepower. A Crown Victoria with 250hp is way less fast than a Fiesta ST with 230hp, for example.

Challengers are boats though, any less horsepower and it wouldn't be able to get out of it's own way

I've never tried a road trip, but I can guarantee it wouldn't go further than a hundred miles without coming apart. If I take it past 65 MPH, the engine gets very loud and vibrates enough to shake the entire car. It's fine for going around town, and it's served me well for a first car, but I've been checking the Internet for a new vehicle. Might go for a Crown Victoria - my dad owns a 1997 Grand Marquis and I'd love to have a V8 myself.

Even the lil 5.7s are pretty quick in their own right. They're heavy and big, but they still handle fine, in my experience. They're probably plenty of fun on a track, even. I know most guys with them say once you get a decent set of tires on them they drive like a dream. Extra pounds stop mattering when you have 350 horsepower over the 4 and 6 cyl babbies you're blowing by, anyways.

would it fit? probably, they're not that big. but do you want an engine that requires shitloads of maintenance in a bay that's bloody hard to do anything in? just stick with/put a 4a-ge in it and super/turbocharge it.

keep in mind that our speed limits can be up to 85 miles per hour (thats 137 km/h). a 220 hp car can barely keep up on an american highway. any weaker and chances are you just straight up can't use the highway for more than a few minutes at a time.

I don’t think anyone would define a PT Cruiser, even modified, as a fun car to drive. It’s too large. Part of what makes cars like the Peugeot 205 so fun to drive is how nimble they are. Also 235hp is hardly slow. That’s proper hot hatch power territory. When I borrowed my brother’s 205 I had to do 110km/h motorway driving almost every day, and it managed perfectly fine despite only being good for 60kW. Sure, it was revving quite high and the whole car starts shaking apart at speeds above 100km/h, but it wasn’t a struggle at all on the motorway. We aren’t spoilt with performance cars in Australia. I mean yeah, we get everything from Europe and Japan, but often for a significantly high price. The only reasonably affordable V8 powered cars are pre-owned Holden Commodores. Or you might get lucky and find someone who’s swapped a Nissan VH41 or VH45 into an R33 Skyline. Sure, my car is only good for 190kW and 110kW/t, but that’s higher than average. I was given the opportunity to drive my old man’s Ford NL with the 5.0L Windsor several years ago too, but yet I still prefer the gutless Peugeot 205.

I am really baffled about this and almost think you are talking about the Autobahn. How fast are you guys going? 150mph? My friends have a 4 cyl Ford Fusion and a 4 cyl Hyundai Sonata, both with 150hp. Four people in one of their cars, we would take 6-7hr road trips all the time and it would be as quiet as can be with still enough get up and go to get on the highway and with adequate passing power. In fact most of everyone I know have cars with 150-200hp range and nobody has ever questioned whether their car can drive on the highway comfortably, 90mph or not. And yes, we've all piled into our other friends' Infinity Q50 or SRT8 Grand Cherokee hundreds of times and didn't feel like it was so much faster that anything less than 200hp was inadequate. Less fun, sure, but totally drivable to even 120mph with 150hp.

Slow cars doesn’t prevent anyone from driving on an American highway. Also modern cars are pretty much all good for 100mph+ regardless of horsepower, and once they get up to highway speed, all modern cars have plenty of overdrive to make it efficient. Really where horsepower inadequacy comes into play is accelerating onto the freeway. If your car doesn’t do 0-60 in less than ten seconds, I’d call it dangerously slow. The drivers are even more dangerous as they don’t even go as fast as their slow cars will let them, instead preferring to merge onto the freeway as low as 20mph when getting on from very short ramps. I do my best with my big slow car, and try to be doing at least 50 by the time I merge. I just wish other people would be safer and do the same.

I believe a 13b turbo has been put in an AW11. I'd poke around MR2 groups and see what comes up. The AZ MR2 community is the largest IIRC. Prepare to spend hella dosh though

Stopped at a NAPA for fuel hose, started talking to an older guy that I parked next to who had a super hot 86 911 Carrera with the targa top. Just talking about the car and then suddenly I'm sitting in the passenger seat of a car with a guy whose name I didn't know, ripping around backroads for a little while. I understand how kidnappings happen now, but fuuuuuuuuuuuuck those are nice cars

mostly under 220 hp merging into freeway speeds is what's dangerous. at the 85-90 mph flow of traffic here its less than 120hp that you don't want to be on the highway too long. you sure as shit won't be able to pass anyone with that little power.

Hot hatches aren't fast. They're quick for otherwise slow economy cars, at best. It's funny to see someone call a PartTime cruiser big. I've never thought of them as particularly big cars

Put a new air filter in the Explorer and it's running a bit better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEnDnIUgQ5A

They're fairly large for hatchbacks, I suppose, especially by the standards of submini compacts.

theyre not really hatchbacks though, they're mini minivans. you wouldn't call like a kia soul or a nissan cube a hatch even though they occupy the same market space as a pt

lol wut I had a NA 3cyl fiesta rental and it had no problem merging, overtaking, and cruising at 100 mph on the autobahn. u don't have to overtake someone by creating a 20mph differential. horsepower is nice but by no means is 210 a minimum for what is considered 'safe' and is kind of a random number tbh. why not 200?

Tell that to my 98 crank HP Miata, that went cross country and back, through South Dakota and Montana, who's interstate speed limits are 80.

My dad has a 2012 Toyota Camry that makes about 180 HP, and it does far better than "barely keep up". We've gone to Pennsylvania and back several times over the past few years, and it's never let us down on the interstate. The six-speed automatic definitely helps, but I think you're overstating what is necessary for highway travel.

My 200 HP Fiesta ST does 200 miles of desert highway driving every weekend and I have never have a problem keeping up. The only thing holding it back is how tightly geared 6th is.

I mentioned that all bets are off on sports cars (or sports-ish cars really). I specifically mentioned miatas as being perfectly capable of getting up to highway speeds, though I wouldn't want to have to be the one to drive it that fast. the max speed of a 2017 na 3 cyl fiesta is limited to 99 mph ya perjuror

Do you drive a 4 tonne truck or have onramps that are 20 metres long? How can 220hp be dangerously slow to get on the highway

130km/h (80mph) in a 520d E39 BMW still gets ~7l/100km (33mpg) and has enough power to accelerate for passing if required. 100kw/134bhp. Not a sports car, not a sports sedan, just a casual commuter. May also be the difference of diesel being more common than gasoline in EU. Most of our roads are capped at 90km/h (55mph) or during summer, 100 or 110km/h (~68mph) on a few roads (wouldn't really call them highways). We don't really need big power over here.

No one needs big power anywhere. It’s just marketing by automakers, and there’s this inane obsession in modern car culture for wanking over cars that can accelerate from 0-60 marginally faster, or do the 1/4 mile faster, or lap tracks faster. I mean for god’s sake, any car which can accelerate from 0-60mph in less than 7.5 seconds is reasonably fast, but dude bros would laugh at you for suggesting that. But yet that’s roughly how fast a Ferrari 250 California can do 0-60. The only people who need power are tradespeople, but they need torque, not power. Tradespeople in Australia are quite sensible in that regard; turbodiesels in cars like the Toyota Hilux and Mitsubishi Triton and very popular. And the Ford Ranger is only offered with turbodiesel engines. Makes you think that the Ford Falcon Ute and Holden Ute may still be in production, if only Ford and GM offered them with turbodiesels as opposed to 6 and 8 cylinder petrol engines.

As if I haven't already spent hella dosh on my ongoing SRT4 swap

I don't believe that at all. My Kadett had 65 hp 40 years ago, and it weighs 780kg. It keeps up with traffic and I have no problem reaching 130km/h. I can overtake whenever I want, as long as it's below or around the speed limit. It only has a 4-speed, yet it keeps up. Trust me, 220hp is already overkill for traffic.

not in German spec, it even hit 200kph on a downhill stint at one point lol

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a50435ef63e2d97e86be0a21e7b53a4a/tumblr_ne8fgdpyqw1tcm4hbo1_1280.jpg I think doing a bit wider stance like this one has will be the next step after my SRT4 swap is up and running.