Crossdressing, Transgender & Allies Discussion: The amazing Egg cracking station
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Hello everyone, I recently came accross a post that made me have a question. Is it possible to be trans without having gender dysphoria? If so, could you explain how? Thanks in advance.
Short answer; according to established medicine, no.
However it is worth nothing that a lot of people who end up transitioning initially feel only very mild feelings of gender dysphoria and may not even consider it as a possibility until they seek counselling or something like that. Upon starting to transition it is not unusual to have very intense feelings of gender dysphoria.
Also bear in mind that gender dysphoria and body dysphoria are different things. Quite often transgender people experience body dysphoria as a result of gender dysphoria, but also there is many transpeople who are pretty comfortable with there bodies and it is more important to them to have the correct gender 'role'.
Alright I think I understand now. Thank you so much.
Bear in mind that the medical community has only recently started treating transgender people as a matter of course in the grand scheme of things and more and more research is undergoing. It was only last year that gender dysphoria was removed as a mental condition, for example, and is now treated as a physical one.
Dysphoria is the effect of being wrongly associated with the gender you are not, but it is completely possible to be associated with your assigned gender at birth and feel nothing but still experience gender euphoria when being associated with the opposite gender or the lack thereof
Personally, I've always experienced dysphoria but it wasn't until I started transitioning that I realised that being dysphoric is just a symptom of being trans not the cause as, despite me wanting to present femme most of the time, I learned that presenting androgynously/non-binary allowed me to not have to endure my dysphoria as bad but not necessarily be as comfortable as I could had I presented as a girl
I've met all types of trans people who experience dysphoria and those who don't, this idea that trans people should start gate keeping other trans people because they don't think they're suffering enough is absolute garbage. I think it sorta stems from bioessencialist thinkings but I don't have the knowledge to say for certain, either way it's the same stuff as "trans-trenders" or the new terf piece "Rapid onset gender dysphoria" Where a bunch of parents of transkids say they should 0 signs of being trans until the internet!!! When infact they're just lying to themselves or can't accept it
but yeah I think its bullshit to boil transness down to someone who experiences gender/body dysphoria, its an important question i think but we're really underestimating children's and teenagers abilities to understand their own feelings and instead discrediting them due to our biases and dissonance
I know we have a Discord server, but we can move this thread into Knockout as well? I prefer to post on a classic forum that check on the server as I tend to be very busy and often there are like +200 new messages
Oh hey, happy trans day of visibility y'all! All of you are cute and valid as fuck and never doubt yourself for a second <3
Welp, today’s gonna suck.
My dad found the clothes I was hiding. Got rid of them without me noticing.
ironically, on the trans day of visibility
wrong type of visibility I needed, universe
Although the timeline of when it happened yesterday is a little off. He had time to bring it up yesterday, but didn’t.
Maybe he’ll tell
thank you autocorrect but I mean yell not tell
god autocorrect is nicer to me than my dad
Maybe he’ll yell at me later today. Or in one week, on my birthday.
On one hand, there’s a chance he’ll think it’s just a cross dressing fetish and go easy on me, just making fun of me rather than some sort of punishment. Or claiming that it’s the reason I’m so anxious and depressed, or why I have credit card debt
on the other hand, if I stop posting on the forums for more than a week (not like I post here much anyway) it’s probably because I’m dead
the guy’s a goddamn roulette wheel when it comes to how he responds to things
maybe my family will try some sort of “intervention”, where I can’t say anything back without things getting worse for me
or maybe I’ll just be kicked out when I just needed about a month or two more before I was going to move out on my own
maybe my dad’s going to try claiming ownership of literally everything I own
but yeah, thanks universe
There are people here who would be happy to lend an ear and/or talk/cheer you up.
Regardless that sucks. I hope your dad doesn't have a bad reaction, hope he's supportive.
fucking nhs
my GP has been moved to an online service to order prescriptions but I'm getting an unavailable practice
So I need to wait a few more days before I can get my t blockers now and I've been told they're not going to give me my vaniqa cream because sandyford hasn't said I've to get it...
ughhhhh now i need to get in contact with my therapist in glasgow
I’m pretty sure there’s an exactly 0% chance of him being supportive but thank you.
The question is how unsupportive he’ll be.
although if he tells my mom, there’s like a 50% chance she’ll have a worse reaction
Now that I think about it, if my dad thought it was some nuclear level problem he would have blown up yesterday. and rifled through the rest of my room
He had the daylight time to do it. But didn’t. When he blows up, he tends to BLOW THE FUCK UP.
He might be planning a “heh, I’ll play mind games with them and hit them where/when it hurts” type of thing.
but then he would have done stuff the morning, I think
He might just be planning on only making fun of me for it.
on the other hand my mom broke down crying two summers ago when she saw I had shaved my legs
My emotions are kind of all over the place right now. I’m going between “rip me fuck you” and “always look in the bright side of life”.
Have you got a shared care agreement between your GP and Sandyford? The NHS seems to make a lot of administrative mistakes that fuck people over.
I'm still on Sandyford's books despite never having actually had an appointment with them because it takes so damn long. Long enough that I ended up moving countries and seeing someone faster.
Have you received laser/electrolysis on the NHS? When I was looking into it they often will not prescribe you vaniqa if you have received either of those, even though it's a good idea and recommend but that's what happens when your public services are underfunded. This was also about 3 years ago so things may well have changed.
yeah I only found out last week they were not in communication with each other despite being told that Sandyford at the details and had been in communication before, I actually only found out about vaniqa because of the electrolisis I was provided on my last session the nurse that had been seeing me for around half the sessions told me about it and how it helps a lot of her previous clients
I had a meeting with my therapist/endo and he said he'd written a letter to my gp so I could get the prescription but it doesn't seem like that's happened at all lol
Sandyford has always been really weird with me. Facial hair removal is not covered with my health care provider here so I'm still waiting to here back from Sandyford but it's approaching almost 3 years at this point. I've checked and I'm still registered with them but because I went private initially the NHS forced me to the bottom of the waiting list again even tho the whole reason I went private was because it was taking so long to do it through the NHS.
That's awful to hear; I do hope nothing to drastic happens, and that when you move out you get to be as independent as you want. The most I get for being interested in girly things and such is occasionally getting off-hand remarks from my dad about how I only do such things "to be a snowflake" but I can't imagine what you're going through. People are always here to lend an ear so I hope it helps you get through dealing with this.
okay am I being punk'd by my family right now
is this an april fools joke
wtf is my life
Okay, so here's what happened when I got home.
Start recording a video on my phone and hide it in my pocket, just for assurance. Go to my room, pass dad on his computer.
He asks "hey, how are you doing" in an almost monotone voice. (This is completely usual for him, especially since he was working something on the computer.)
"...Good, you?"
"good"
Nothing else.
I put my laptop in my room (I had taken it with me to work because it is my baby and I would never risk anyone taking it from me).
Go back out of my room, let the dog out and go outside with him.
Text my sister "everythings fine so far" "that's really good".
Try to send her the video of me passing dad and nothing happening, can't get a wifi connection outside.
Go up to the basement window (we're on a hill so the west side of the basement isn't actually underground), try to get wifi.
No wifi. Go to a different window. No wifi.
Go to a different window. No wifi. Look inside and oh shit my stepmom is looking at me hold my phone up to the window. (future stepmom technically, it's a different story)
I go inside and talk to her.
She asks "Hey what's up."
"Been stressed all day."
"Why?"
"Okay, so you don't know. That's good."
"About what? Did something happen?"
"With dad. If you don't know, that's good. It means he hasn't blown up."
"What happened with him? Is it about the camp thing?"
"Nope."
"Let me think, what has he told me about..."
"It's something where, if it's not immediately coming to mind, you don't know."
"Oh. Well you can tell me if you want."
"No, I'd rather not, thanks though."
We talk a bit more about how I've been stressed all day, "I was kind of worried dad would kill me lol", etc.
Eventually she asks "Wait, are you talking about the underwear thing?"
wut
"...er, yeah"
"Yeah, he was telling me about a whole bunch of different things and he mentioned that and I wasn't even paying attention. God, he's such an asshole. That's not how you deal with a situation like that."
"you don't care"
"God no."
I text my sister
"okay stepmom knows but doesn't care"
"are you fucking with me wtf is going on"
"MY LIFE"
Stepmom and I talked some more and, well, yeah, I assume they think it's just an underwear thing. And they don't actually give a shit.
Well my dad cares, obviously, since he threw my stuff out, but not enough to actually talk to me about it. At least he only threw half of my stuff out.
TLDR I'm safe but about $100-$150 down on underwear and emotionally whiplashed
The official discord is transitioning from FP to Knockout due to recent news.
the Knockout thread is here: Knockout!
the discord has been moved over.
hope to see you all over there.
nsfw images allowed? If not, just yeet this post.
https://imgur.com/a/Ox9HRXw
I don't post much, and I sure don't post pics of myself anywhere but figured all of you could enjoy.
The discord server is much more active, its pretty much the same situation as with the Gay Chat thread.
Alrite, I'll have to check it out.
I don't think FP allows self-posted nudity at all, but you are freakin cute.
Thank you <3 I'm actually amazed I can still be cute.
ITT everyone is a cutie petotie.
"everybody is a cutie except me" - every trans girl, probably
if you say you're not cute im going to tell you to shh and say that you are
because everyone is and nobody deserves to feel ugly or unattractive or feel bad about themselves
you're all beautiful
resume posting about titty skittles
ok so uh
where they at
my house
be right there
I was kind of hoping this thread would come back wasn't ready to go to knockout when I realized thats where it all was
Pretty much everybody is hanging on Discord since the move to Knockout is not final ( FP is still online as you can see ) and because is faster for most of the people needs.
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