Super Best Friends Thread V6: Funko Pop appreciation thread - General

It's kind of a conundrum, since obviously the most fun thing to do would be to play as a crazy violent T-800, but Kara and Marcus' stories don't really provide ample opportunity to do that and have it make sense. Like, Kara and Marcus both had kind of a shitty hand, but they also have/had a very strong bond with a human, to the point that it would feel weird and out of character to do the fun thing and go full Dalek. So the game kinda forces you to choose between what would be fun to play and what would make sense in the story; in any other kind of video game, the choice is clear, but this particular genre is built 100% around telling a story, so the game falls apart once the story does. If you want to really have fun, you have to make the story play out in a hackneyed and forced way. But then you're dealing with a hackneyed and forced story that makes even less sense than if you'd played along. Conner's story is great because every option is some varying degree of "be an autistic weirdo supercop who annoys Mr. Krabs", so you can't really play it in a way that's NOT entertaining unless you actively go out of your way to make it boring and shitty.

I got spoiled on something later on and it's frankly one of the dumbest plot holes I've ever seen in a cage game. It's so fucking stupid

spoil it in spoiler tags pls. or link it

The little girl is a robot.And for some reason has every single upgrade that a robot could have to simulate humanity. Despite the fact that androids can immediately recognize others, and have touched each other, and she's eaten, and has been served food by her 'father'. Also why would a scumbag like that be allowed to have a child android? You'd need background checks on that shit because I'm almost convinced that like, 99% of the use for a child android would be creepy. There's no spin that you can do to make any of Kara's story make sense with that in mind. There's no way in hell that child androids would be a regular thing you can buy without heavy background checks, let alone to not have any sort of tracking, checkups, or why in the fuck would someone who would buy the thing give it the ability to fucking freeze to death, or go hungry. Why would a poor person buy a robot girl that he needs to feed if he can barely afford to feed himself while he spends money on his drug habit?

end spoilers: You literally see a magazine for that brand of child android in the first episode with kara, and kara herself even picks it up

I think that's the part that annoys me most about this "twist", it's signposted so fucking hard but somehow none of the characters ever notice. Kara makes sense if she's programmed to think of Alice that way, but there's so many other people they meet and interact with.

don't worry they'll get there

I'm thinking if this spoiler is what i think it is. It should have been obvious a mile off as it's such a damn predictable trope. Karas' story in general doesn't interest me, but the most recent episode has some great bits from the boys at least.

It doesn't excuse the game basically fucking lying to you.

I'm not sure it ever has if I'm remembering things correctly tbh. Todd may have picked Alice up before his life went to shit (if the girlbot thing is right which I'm almost positive it is), due to his wife getting custody over the real Alice. That or the regulations weren't quite as strong about child androids at that point in time/ nobody actually cares who buys child androids. Kara is the only Android I'm aware of so far that straight up refuses to acknowledge she's looking after a kidbot (Luther tries to tell her and everyone else isn't deviant so far) because of her deviancy allowing her to delude herself in this scenario .I can't think of any other reason for her to refuse to acknowledge Alice as an android outside of delusion. Deviancy seems pretty OP and lets android be damn near full humans. And I'd think Todd just wanted his daughter again so he doesn't want to acknowledge she's a robbit. It's supremely lazy writing though, that's undeniable.

It's especially bad because it spits on the entire narrative. The entire game is about if humans can get along with androids, and I figured that was the point of Kara and Alice's scenes. But since Alice is an android, Kara's scenes add literally nothing to the narrative.

Yeah in their attempt to get a Shyamalanin in they actually fucked the entire driving point of the plot. David Caged the plot should I say.

God I had totally forgotten how much of a hot mess God Hand is, audiovisually speaking. it's barely holding itself together, half the polygons just disappear when they get too close to the edges of the screen. This is the year MGS3 and Bully came out. It's such a hot mess, and that's part of the hilarity.

I listened to Pat's explanation of how the game got a low score at IGN, and I had absolutely zero context on this- I thought it was an early PS2 game where this look was more common, but it turns out to just be the budget they had. Crazy stuff.

to be fair, the walls disappearing when the camera gets close to them is intentional to make sure nothing gets in the way of your view during combat it's necessary especially considering you have no camera control

Something about how God Hand's audio is so loud that it's clipping, even though they did what they could to turn down the volume, is absolutely hilarious to me It's so fitting

Early Platinum is hilarious Platinum. I've been replaying Bayo 1, and even with the port and sorta remastering, the game still had the budget of like, the hair gel on Kamiya's head.

Platinum is still really lucky that Nier: Automata saved them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLFk9whh1xk Their reaction to "We Have a Dream" is gold.

It's been a while since they've blown out their mics so hard

The reaction to "We have a dream" was everything I wanted it to be.

Why... is Marcus being their leader? Why? Like the game has given literally no reason for him to be leading them. At all.

"You're free now." Queue to shot of all of them bumbling around in circles until Markus tells them what to do.

I guess when you got someone who can touch others and make them "free", you'd want him in the front.

But he was already making speeches long before his fucking superpowers appeared.

Wait if Marcus is the only one with conversion superpowers how did they free all the androids at the other stores simultaneously?

It's probably not saying much, but at the very least I think this is still the least I've been upset about a Le David Cage Plot Twist™ and overall still has me not want to just literally forget the last quarter of the game compared to Indigo Prophecy and Heavy Rain's twists. Beyond's still the worst out of all of Cage's works.

Martin Luther DROID Machine Luther King Martin Lithium King Wish I could come up with more as of now. Too tired. I can't believe David "ShoeHON-HON-HORN" Cage actually did that. And I'm glad Woolie went for it.

This is also the only Cage game without Supernatural bullshit, but I have a feeling Cage wanted it in somewhere possibly with ra9

Marcus is ironically basically the antagonist to Connor but in a way that feels completely unintentional because they portray Marcus as this messiah figure. But he’s this uncomfortable uncharismatic super powered freak who came from a background in which he was treated like a son and other than some bullying (before the incident) he lived as a wonderful equal. He also can control tech and other androids at will, and a bunch really don’t seem like they’re actually cognitive, rather more... unlocked and forcing them to be active members of a rebellion that has no supplies, no way of continuing if he is gone