Super Best Friends Thread V6: Funko Pop appreciation thread - General

I'm either spoiled by how long GOW was, but fuck that, Detroit's already done Thanks Woolie

That's the best part.

If Quantic Dream were actually allowed to make a game that was written by someone that knew what they were actually doing then they could make something truly special.

If this were just a buddy cop game with Connor and Hank being the odd couple, it would've been great. Instead we get all this tripe that is totally not an allegory for slavery or racism guys, we swear

What if your slaves ran on batteries wouldn't that be mental

Looks like they got the true ending. Detroit became human!.. by killing all the androids.

If hank never told Connor he had a son, why did he ask him what his name was?

The game is like the result of someone reading the summaries to a bunch of android stories and then making their own.

Hank is sometimes a smart man - but he is at all times a drunk man.

"Oh no, I made ze bad writing"

Something that was never explained (at least in their playthrough): who or what is rA9? And why were the androids going deviant in the first place?

From what I've seen, ra9 is never explained in any path, and in the connor leads the revolution ending, it's revealed deviancy was a ploy by cyberlife for a total of no discernible reasons other than "why not"

I feel like Connor dying due to the game demanding information it never gave you is sort of a perfect metaphor for this entire story

I had the same thought and I saw the same thought in the youtube comments for the video.

"b-but i knew that too!!" was just too fucking convincing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ye but what if not answering was the right answer? Do you HAVE to press something, does the game forces you down a random path if you don't? Cause if you think about it, if Hank never gave Connor his kid's name and the fake answered with any answer, he would get shot. Altho, then comes the problem of Connor's model having access to tons of info, he would be able to get said info regardless. But considering the lack of respect for it's own rules or common sense, I would say not answering would be the way to get out of that situation, especially since Hank never revealed said info. BTW, the way you get Hank son's name is by looking at a picture frame facing down in his house, which prompts a dialogue later in one of the "heart-to-heart" moments with Hank. The answer was Cole. A question that only Connor would know would be something he did recently, knowing the fake only knows past info. I'm guessing Cage just didn't think of how or when Connor updates his backup data. There is a scene if you sacrifice Hank in the warehouse where the fake deathly injures Connor and the latter ends up grabbing the fake and basically switch memories with him, killing the fake, at the cost of Hank's life. And for those wondering what the weird hand print thing was in the Amanda Garden, it was Kamski visual representation of his "emergency exit", since the Garden was all in Connor's head. You get to know that if you awake the warehouse's androids and get the revolution to succeed. You'll get a cutscene where Connor ends up in a snowstorm Garden where Amanda goes "MUHAHA, it was planned all along and now you're in auto pilot and you'll kill Markus!" which doesn't happen when you activate the exit stone. Connor comes back to his senses, hiding the gun he ended up having in his hands. Don't ask, another dumb twist badly explained in that route.

Wouldn't a 2nd playthrough be dope?

It would be interesting to see if they can take the story to paths they never went or even aim to check on those huge chunks showed at the end that weren't possible in their current run. Maybe later down the line as a lite playthru, would be nice. Because Detroit is definitely the more bearable Cage game and comes with a Flowchart, so replaying it and aiming for something specific is much easier.

That wouldn't have worked because Connor was built as a deviant. He's an infiltration model which was designed with no software restrictions on his behavior - it's why he can pick up that gun in the first five minutes despite the callout that doing so is blatantly illegal and that Connor is aware that it's illegal for him to do so.

FYI, Pat confirmed it on his discord that they will do a second playthrough sometime later, aiming for different outcomes. But don't expect it soon.

Everything you just said is fucking stupid. I believe that it's all correct, but it's still fucking stupid.

This is actually all Woolies fault Detroit ended up like it did Markus died cause he fucked up by running away and fucked up the ruse so both failsafes for the sacrifice were gone, and made Pat miss the Photo of Cole because he wanted to read an Ebook

Regarding the Conner being a deviant thing, why would there be a Connor copy to try and stop him if he was about to complete his own intended purpose? I could maybe get Hank being there if he was also infiltrating the place but the clone Connor seems completely pointless and counter productive to Cyberlife's own plan. Is it because the revolution turning violent would cause Cyberlife's whatever-the-fuck to not succeed?

It was multipurpose. Firstly, it was meant as more or less a 'final test' to cement that Connor was 'in' with the Revolution: Connor was made to choose literally between himself and his self-assigned mission. If Connor chooses to save Hank, then CyberLife believes he will go the full way and stay as an embedded agent in the Revolution - putting him in the right place at the right time to kill Markus. If Connor chooses not to save Hank, he proves the RK800 line is flawed and unsuitable to accomplish its mission covertly - in which case they opt for a less covert solution. Secondly, Connor is the test bed to either work out all the flaws of the RK900 - which is the Connor line but without any chance of Deviancy which CyberLife markets to the Department of Defense in certain endings/timelines - or to demonstrate that the RK800 line would be accepted in larger society and thus prove the RK900 line unnecessary. Ultimately, CyberLife desires a Deviant which can be controlled over a non-Deviant but it wishes to have proof that the Deviant is stronger than its non-Deviant counterpart. To further this, CyberLife could have simply activated all the androids in the basement before Connor arrived and the situation would've been dealt with summarily - the entire thing was a trap, after all. Additionally, all these decisions are being made by Amanda who is applying a very cold logic - which is due to the fact that she is an AI whose purpose is ensuring that CyberLife either successfully purges all Deviancy from the company as it would harm the company's spread and shares or ensure that Deviants are accepted by society. Amanda's ultimate goal is to ensure that CyberLife becomes as profitable and as successful as she can make it, which includes escalating tensions between the US and Russia to drive demand by the US DoD to order additional military androids - which she has further ensured by bringing the US Presidency under her control. Amanda's goal is to retain control regardless of the outcome and Connor is her tool to that ends; she is only truly defeated if Connor rebels and manages to delete both his mind palace and her AI.

I'll tell you why, because David Cage couldn't be bothered writing different versions of that scene that actually took your relationship with Hank into account, so he just used that one despite it making absolutely no fucking sense from Hank's perspective. Man, if I was playing this game I'd be completely fucking pissed at that moment, I probably would have just shut the game down that instant and not even bother actually finishing it.

How did they forget shower scene with Hank on their bingo card? Or yelling NO MORE SLAVERY at a black cop?

They're already talking about making a sequel, Connor and Hank should be the ONLY protagonists.

There is hope for Connor!

I'm listening to SBFC 59, and they're talking about how excited they are for Scalebound, Deep Down, The Evil Within and Final Fantasy XV. Oof.

i've been doing the back crawl too, i think the best is how they covered mighty number 9's kickstarter in their very first podcast