I didn't do it. Megathreads can still go for a number of pages. This isn't the first time we've had a 1000 post limit on threads.
You can do @ and their name, other than that there's no direct way to message people. There's a thread dedicated to forum communications; The Grand Unofficial Not
Legend, thanks! Much appreciated.
one of the main reasons offered for moving away from vb was to get away from its arbitrary limitations like the post limit in vb was basically required due to its shit database system
but theres no reason to have it here
this new software has all the arbitrary limits of vb except more restrictive while still missing basic features every other forum software has
aw damn, well it was a blast while it lasted
Garry wants discussion to take place across many different threads, rather than just in one. Breaking up megathreads into smaller and more focused threads.
Garry is the only one
and these are his forums so we're at his mercy unfortunately
not good enough
I hate to be a bother, but with the @ system, if you edit the correct syntax in afterwards, does it still alert the user you @'d? I'm so used to VB where it wouldn't, but this isn't VB so I have no idea.
people have been fighting him for years but it always ends up the same way
the people fighting get banned
I'm pretty sure it does
Why should we give any feedback if this is all just Garry's discretion then?
Sure feedback is being heard by you, but it's got no practical use as g-boy'll just change what he feels like when he wants.
some mods may be gone....
but don't worry...
I'm still here
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding this, but it doesn't feel like you are encouraging anything with this, just discouraging megathreads. If there was rewarding or an incentive to use smaller threads then maybe people would want to use them?
You know, more carrot and less stick.
Garry won’t even communicate to the moderators about major changes why would he then expect moderators to go through “proper channels” to voice legitimate concerns about these changes?
Garry must have missed the dozens of pages where people explained why this a bad idea but here's the gist of it: for megathreads to not be necessary you need a subforum for every single game ever made, which realistically isn't happening.
All that it's accomplishing is making followed threads a bitch to keep track of and cutting off discussion unless someone takes the time to remake the megathread.
Or maybe
It's a pretty strange decision really. He is trying to lower the barrier of entry for posting on the forums but creating worthwhile threads is always going to take a fair amount of effort so it's always going to have a higher barrier of entry.
People put effort into megathreads because they're long-lasting and the OPs can be a very useful source of information that only needs to be compiled every once in awhile. The new forums already make those sorts of OPs insanely annoying to create after a thread has locked since the post editor is crap. You can no longer copy+paste old OPs. So it makes creating those OPs even more time-consuming and require more effort. That on top of having to remake them far more often means very few people are going to want to bother.
So the end result here is going to be few worthwhile threads period but a possible rise in garbage threads that will get few to no replies.
again it seems he is more gearing the forums towards the fp projects than the general community so why not just rip off the bandaid and cut them out altogether
Who did we lose?
Asaratha and Sgt Doom
Technically, you can click the drop down and copy the post code. and use that in a request if you know how..
If you know how
On the plus side, with the site hemorrhaging so many active users, most megathreads are gonna struggle to reach 1000 posts anyway so it's not even that large of a restriction
The only thing a post limit on Megathreads does is cause that same megathread to be remade more often.
They're not more focused, the content is exactly the same, just split over multiple instances of the same thread, of which only one is going to be open at the same time.
I thought it was okay to post contrary opinions? Little confused here
It is. Except for when it isn't. Then it's not.
This is the exact reason why everything has been so vague.
I think we should pretend that there isn't a change in rules
Other than reaction images coz that's important
There's one thing that Garry is missing with all his changes, and it's that he can't force people to do as he says. If he adds a new feature, it needs to be useful, otherwise people aren't going to use it. If people don't want to use the forums the way he wants them to, they're simply not going to, even if it means not using the forum at all.
I get what he's going for, i really do. Megathreads are awful to follow for most topics, and giant, old threads are daunting for new users. Small threads aren't better if there's no easy way to discover them, though, because if no one can find them, they might as well not exist. While it currently works for some forums like H&S and SH, it's not currently going to work with the big ones like General and Games because there's no way for small threads to survive there. They have too many popular threads for people to find the smaller ones while browsing, and too wide a subject matter for people to bother subscribing to them.
The moment a forum gets too many dominant threads, threads are going to fall off the frontpage and most people aren't going to read them. People simply aren't conditioned to believing there's anything interesting past the front page, never mind the fifth or tenth. Some regulars might bother going back that far, but most new people aren't. Increasing the threads shown on a page or implementing infinite scrolling would fix this, but it's just a workaround - as more threads get popular enough to have constant posts, it gets harder for smaller threads to even be seen. That's just a limitation with the way we normally list threads. There's two fixes to this that we already have: subforum categories can split up subjects so they're not competing with others, and subscriptions guarantee people will see new threads made about a subject. However, both of these have huge flaws right now that make them unusable in the bigger forums.
The subforum categories are great! They encourage thread creation and subscribing since there's one easy place to find that subject. Even if there is a big Fortnite thread, someone in the Fortnite category will still see the smaller Fortnite threads if they browse it. If they care about Fortnite enough to want to know about it, they can subscribe to the category without getting notifications about other things. This is way more practical than having a Fortnite megathread. The problem is, right now we're encouraging thread creation at the cost of other conversation subjects. Fortnite threads are put in the parent forum, suffocating other conversation subjects that don't have subcategories, while anyone who actually wants to read about Fortnite will simply enter the Fortnite subsection. Having a view of all subcategories has its use, but it's detrimental enough to subjects without subcategories that it shouldn't be default.
Instead of shoving all subcategories together, make discovering subcategories easier! Maintain subcategories better, so every popular subject has one and their naming makes sense. Make an "other" category for everything else that's too small to live in a subforum. That means you could do interesting things with them instead of using threads, like having them compete for popularity instead of individual threads. We're no longer limited to the traditional thread list, so there's no reason to stick to it when it doesn't make sense. More and better categories means that people actually want to use subscriptions, after all.
Subscriptions are one of the best features we've got from the newpunch switch, but that doesn't mean people are forced to use them. What people can subscribe to needs to be relevant to their interests. If 90% of the notifications from a subscription are uninteresting, people are simply going to unsubscribe and not use that feature. Garry's goal is to get people to go out of their comfort zone and see things they usually don't see. Having subscriptions be strictly focused on specific subjects seems counterproductive to that, i'll admit, but people subscribing to their comfort zones and using the forum is still better when the alternative is them not using it at all. If people need to get notifications about a game to get their news, or notifications from a bot to get their games, they're just gonna get neither one of them.
I think Garry is on to something with most of the changes he's done, but i think he's also too adamant about the way he's implemented them. People have pointed out these flaws way before i have, but i get the impression it's gotten filtered out because of people being rude when doing it. Neither you or Garry are people to take people's bitching, and you don't have an obligation to. You've definitely received way more shit than what's reasonable after the newpunch switch. I'm just worried that both of you have looked past legitimate concerns because of people's overreactions.
To be fair, maybe they'd get less shit if Garry didn't so openly disregard and show so much disdain for anybody who levies any amount of criticism at him and his decisions
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