Depression, anxiety, suicidalism and similar disorders, issues and troubles V7 - General

Hey dude, if all you want to do is tell people "don't seek help" as you basically asserted all of the profession and everything that is on offer is bogus, great, but don't do so here. I don't believe in charlatans who think they can offer you all the answers. I haven't met a therapist who says they have the answers, but you seem to be acting like you do. My skepticism meter goes off at that point.

I feel more and more drawn to the thought of the void.

This is terrible advice please don't spread it anymore. Introspection and looking inward work fine if you're capable of objectively analyzing your life and actions, but people with mental illness usually don't have the ability to do that. Psychologists exist to give people that objective perspective, while also offering emotional support and a place to vent. They also give people resources to work with and coping mechanisms for dealing with trauma. Also if you think psychology is an easy field you clearly have only a rudimentary understanding of the topic.

"my post wasn't advice, I was just saying that people should do this". Can people with mental illness introspect to correct issues or find coping mechanisms? Sure they can. More often then not those solutions are unhealthy and lead to further physical or mental illness. Someone with PTSD night try to sleep at night by getting blackout drunk, for example. Psychologists guide people to healthier coping mechanisms to minimize the chance of people coping with illness in detrimental manner. It honestly (and ironically) seems like you've had a negative experience with a bad psych and it's left you with a bias. As for your claims about the state of the field of psychology I will of course ask you for citations for every single claim you made here. Malpractice rates, number of failed studies, etc. If you want me to I can bring up statistics about patient satisfaction and recovery rates as a result of therapy and psychiatric treatment, but if you don't feel the need to support your argument then I won't either.

It's about anxiety and negativity so it should fit the topic. I think it's time for me to stop mentioning an opinion. No matter how right or terribly wrong a person is, the conflict of it as in real life or online causes me great anxiety, and sometimes trigger a panic attack. Whenever someone asks me I'm just going to say "I don't have an opinion" or if the circumstances provides me I'd say "I ain't no expert on the subject so I rather not say anything". Yes, this is a terrible choice when it comes to democratic principles, were my voice has been subjected to self-censorship due to a toxic or hostile political and moral forum, but I just can't take it anymore. I posted on a Facebook thread that I'm going to protest vote (blank vote) because no political party represented my voice, some supported me because it was my democratic right and none should force me to vote on a party, and others just straight out called me pathetic, disgusting, traitor and other things and said it was a waste of vote. I know I shouldn't take these things personal, and should just report/block and move on, but it still stings in my heart and I can't stop thinking about it the whole month. I remember when I hiked through the mountains for two weeks straight alone. I had my cellphone turned off just in case, and no connection to the outer world. No Internet, no news; and I never felt that good before, all the negativity and all the inner conflicts of self and outer questioning went away.. I could actually breath and my body and mind responded with the same. Maybe I should do it again? Green therapy is wonderful and I recommend it a lot.

It's not just one thing in my case, but money definitely is a factor in current circumstances. My own depression can be boiled down to this (from my months of figuring shit out): The cause: Sleeping too little, working too hard, and being too negative Sleeping too little: I slept for about 5 hours per day, I usually sleep for about 8 hours Working too hard: Work lasted about 12 hours per day in the worst case scenario (show up at 6 AM, leave around 7 PM, 1 hour breakfast and lunch breaks included), I only got every 2nd weekend off so that didn't help, in essence I was working for nearly 2 weeks at a time with many 12 hour work days mixed in so this didn't leave much time for me to take care of myself Being too negative: There were bullies at my job in management positions and the work environment was very toxic as a result, as you can maybe guess; that brewed a lot of resentment Extra note: I'm flat footed and my job was very labour intensive, it got so bad that I couldn't shower because of how much it hurt from standing on the hard surface. It was literally painful to work in more ways than one. As for where it stands today, it mostly revolves around future prospects and keeping negative thoughts away. I've warmed up to a lot of the things I would normally scoff at because of them seeming ridiculous, e.g. smiling more (why smile when you feel so terrible?), making other people happy (how can I make people happy when I'm so sad?), tidying my house (why stay tidy when I'm the only one that sees it?), etc. Now doing these things just makes sense. A lot of it seems to stem from self-doubt. Believing in myself and knowing my own capabilities has helped a ton in grounding myself in reality. No joke, when things were really bad I literally thought I was clinically retarded (in a sense I was because depression shuts down brain activity). That's the sort of far fetched idea I had even though I killed it in college and have made many projects with programming to prove otherwise. Depression just seems so illogical. Here's how I've been trying to describe depression: It's like for your whole life you've been building a tower out of blocks but you've been blindfolded this entire time. The tower represents all that you've accomplished in life, the friends you've made, the places you've been, the things you know, etc. Depression is like a wrecking ball that destroys the entire tower and at this point the blindfold is taken off and you're now tasked with rebuilding everything from the beginning. The task seems huge and impossible to accomplish, but the more you rebuild your life day by day the more you realize that it is in fact possible to do. Through this whole process of rebuilding yourself there's many opportunities to do away with bad aspects of your life. In a sense your old self has died and a new self is now being reborn, hopefully a better and stronger self. --- On a different note I got a reply back from a company that I applied to months ago (they weren't actively seeking new people to hire) and they asked me for an interview, I'm so excited for this! It's a place that I'd really love to work at (fingers crossed).

My mom was cleaning out her old file cabinet and found some old drawings and my grade notes from elementary school. and all she did was show them to me and tell me the congratulatory notes from my old teachers. All I did was practically cry. In my case Friends and Family, My social skills are too poor since childhood thanks of my dad, that I can't understand practically anything anyone says without knowing if it's an insult or a joke. I've had a lot of problems and trust with "friends". that has caused me to complete distrust to anyone and completely lock me up a lot more and at the same time caused me a lot of issues by being branded as "You're too serious to talk." or "You're a complete asshole". and if someone tries to be my friend, I get a rush of anxiety if "he's serious about wanting to be my friend" or "it's just another lie". From Family: My dad is a complete bastard (ever today disguised as a "good person.") that he'd get too violent and aggressive my mon my brother and me with practically anything since childhood, because since his life was a complete shit, he demanded that we should share the same shitty life he had, because "God says, the husband is the man of the house." He hated birthdays. He hated it when we tried to have friends, or went out to play. even with the stupid things but at the same time he insulted us with "You're a complete piece of shit!" "You never leave the house!" "You never have friends!" "I should kill them for being too stupid!" etc. and in some ways I can (almost) solve them myself. My brother not suffer too much since my mom was too rude and fought too hard with my dad and managed to get my brother to live (almost) his life. but since it was so much harder with me I'm too traumatized by it and still I have difficulty even in some of the most basic things as cook, my mom has to help me or motivate me without practically reminding me of him and his complete insults

A lot of the time I feel like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Ge4F4E9JE Also there's this kind of void that develops around winter, I don't know why, but it never fails to show. Usually after the semester starts and I don't have anyone to talk to. It's kind of a rotting feeling, and it's in my chest. Also the other night I had a dream of just hugging someone, and it was a really good dream, really good feeling, then I woke up alone. That's the last time i've felt love, and I miss it. I also have this self loathing, where I hate my self loathing and self sorriness. Like I don't know why the rotting feeling came back, but it came back yesterday and hasn't gone away. So i'm ready for the depression, it always comes, along side the anxiety. I just need some good friends.

LMAO you sourced a Wikipedia article, and the sources they cite don't prove anything. A lack of replication does not automatically disprove an experiment, and the statistical anomaly described could be the result of bias, but it could also be the result of a myriad of of other things (coincidence being one of those things). If you're going to disparage the field of psychology then at least do more then "Wikipedia said that some people said some things so they're probably right.". The fact of the matter is that you're spewing a lot of nonsense and, as someone who has suffered from severe mental health problems throughout my life, I understand the dangers in bad advice. Spreading a bunch of hot nonsense like that makes people not want to go to therapy appointments and makes vulnerable or suggestible individuals distrust their doctors. That's why you should stop.

Exactly my fucking point you weenie. It doesn't disprove or prove anything. You've been spouting a lot of fucking hot air lol. I also never claimed to be an "expert on mental health". I'd love for you to show me where I said that. Furthermore you accuse me of saying that my experiences make me an expert on mental health, then devote a paragraph of oppression Olympics nonsense telling me how much shit you've been through and how that makes you an authority on the topic. What is this definite answer shite you're talking about? Tell me where I even remotely implied we have "all the answers". Let me boil what I'm saying down to you in layman's terms since you seem so utterly incapable of comprehending what I've laid out to you. You made a post that said something along the lines of "Psychology is mostly bunkum and unhelpful, you should just introspect bro" then cited fucking Wikipedia instead of the actual studies because you don't know how to cite shit. The studies that wikipedia cites dont prove your point definitively. Lack of result replication does not disprove anything, and an unreplicated result is not proof. What I said, if you'd actually bother to read, was that a lack of replication does not debunk the experiment, which is true. You are trying to say that a lack of replication means that psychology is a field plagued with falsehood, which cannot be proven by a lack of result replication. This is basic fucking logic. Also if you aren't trying to disparage the field of psychology then why are you making statements like ". I think it's worth discussing the inherent flaws within contemporary psychology" "psychology isn't bogus, it's just incredibly rudimentary " ?? Your understanding of psychology is clearly flawed. You make a bunch of inane statements that sound good and mean pretty much nothing, like "There's a deeper level to what you already know, and there are unfortunately no definitive answers to be found there" Like what does that mean?? What does that have to do with what I said???? Or this one "A four-word sentence, at the right time, in the right frame of mind, can quite literally change your life and your perception of it in an instant" This statement means nothing at all in the context of this discussion. You talk like a version of Trump that became a washed out motivational speaker instead of president.

Basic human interaction usually doesn't involve spouting a bunch of random nonsense in a conversation that has a specific topic. Also yes you do have to prove every claim you've made. This is how the burden of proof works. This far you have utterly failed to meet the burden of proof at any level. Furthermore my strong language is in no way an indication of my current mental state. Im half asleep and perfectly calm after a wonderful day. My strong language is a result of me being passionate about the topic. "We know very little about psychology" was most certainly not your "entire point". From your claims in the thread you're actual point is that "Psychology is filled with bunkum, and the stuff these psychologist do get right only works short term" which you have yet to prove. As a matter of fact, you have yet to prove either of these points. Your posting style seems to be "unsubstantiated claim" followed by five or six random to tangentially related statements. Furthermore if you believe that people should seek the help of a psychologist first then why would you state "There's this weird trend of treating people who suffer from varying degrees of disorders as completely helpless individuals with absolutely zero agency, at the mercy of their own selves, and that self-treatment is not only ill-advised but also dangerous. " Which implies that you believe self treatment to be a viable alternative to professional help. The fact of the matter is you don't even understand how even the most basic therapy works Every single therapist will tell you that repression is a bad idea. But this is what you think therapists do " Most therapy is rooted in self-delusion and repressing the bad thoughts hard enough, sternly enough so that they don't come back" Telling a patient to delude themselves or repress bad thoughts is probably grounds for a psychologist to get fired and barred from practicing. If this is your experience with therapy you should report your therapist. Self-delusion and repression are things therapists work to undue. Or what about this statement " Psychiatry is all about blasting noise as loudly as possible drowning out some thoughts" Which is also something that therapists most certainly do not do. The closest thing I can think of to this is therapists advising their patients to think of a pleasant place or time during a period of anxiety to calm them down. That is, however a short term coping mechanism to help control anxiety while you work out the causative factors of your anxiety in therapy. You have no understanding of even basic psychology. This is easily demonstrable by looking at any of your posts. Stop peddling bullshit and stop with this "say a bunch of dumb bullshit then say 'im actually saying something completely different'" nonsense. You ain't fooling anyone.

I believe what you're describing is this: Seasonal affective disorder (SAD)

Do people ever get over highschool? I had another school dream last night and woke up in a terrible mood.

I've been feeling really fucking scared about the uncertainty behind America's future and what the fuck is going to happen to all of us here. Are we going to be able to get the GOP to fuck off, or is America just going to slowly become something equivalent to Nazi Germany?

Long time lurker at this forum, wanted to share something... I suffer from squizoaffective disorder and have had several psychotic episodes throughout my life. I once believed I was going to cause the end othe world, another time I thought i could control the weather and that my behaviour was directly influencing important world events . I have experienced visual hallucinations in form of rapidly flashing holograms among many other crazy things. I hate taking the antipsychotic medication. I makes me feel dead inside. I rarelly cry, laugh or feel anything anymore. I also made me gain shitloads of weight which ruined my self-esteem completely. I feel tired and unable to concentrate. Anyone else here suffers from this disease? How do you manage to cope with the side-effects of the medication?

long time no post. things are bad, I'm getting less and less functional. I need to get out of this town and go to school but I don't trust myself to do that unless my mental health is better, and mental health care in this area is as non-existent as ever. So I'm getting very worried I'll be stuck here in the middle of nowhere working minimum wage jobs forever.

I'm strongly drawn to alcohol, but I can't due to medications. Good I know, but it's like an itch in your brain.

What has caused this? Sounds like you're in a bad place man and you say you used to be so optimistic, you still can. Everyone has the power inside them to change their life. I'm making a huge life change at the moment in order to sort myself out

lol i'm SAD

Feels weird posting here, but I'm so dang lonely these days. Been struggling with mental health issues for awhile, you know, years and years. But I've been getting better. My girlfriend though, she's just been getting worse and worse, with underlying mental health issues rearing up and causing serious depressive episodes near constantly over the last few months. It's really rough seeing someone you love go through so much pain, especially when you can't do anything to help. She comes from a very conservative family and this family has never paid much mind to mental health issues in the past, so my partner has a lot of difficulty processing complicated emotion. It can result in her getting rather anxious, sometimes a bit aggressive, when bad mood swings hit. She never means to, but she often 'takes it out on me', which can naturally make it harder for me. But recently, it's gotten so much worse. She's gone completely off her anti depressant medication for seemingly little reason other than missing a few days, and on top of that, we're both struggling with some minor withdrawal from weening off a substance we've overindulged in. She's a complete wreck and I feel like my own mental health progress is being stripped down bit by bit whenever we argue, or she gets mad at me and then regrets it. I feel like such a whiner, especially when it comes to complaining about being someone else's core line of support, but those feelings have just made me feel so, as I said above, alone. I've been hitting dark places I haven't been in for a long time, and I'm really scared of letting both myself and my partner down. Sorry for like, the kind-of-blog post here. I know that's what this thread is pretty much for, complaining and support, but I can't shake the feeling this is a non-issue and I just need to learn to deal with it, for both of our sakes. It's a lot of pressure.

Why are you lonely? You have an SO, but what about friends? "I'm really scared of letting both myself and my partner down." This is not a good way to think. If you both have mental health issues you are most likely both relying on each other and supporting each other which will be a massive drain. My ex had mental health problems and in the end I was basically her carer, rather than her lover. You need to be sure you're not dragging each other down or one person dragging the other, you will never recover if you're being drowned.

I'm just going through bouts of super lonely thoughts. I do have family, friends, and especially my partner to keep me anchored, but when I feel like I'm constantly letting her down I find it hard to confide in people, yknow? It doesn't help that I don't really share my feelings with people in general. My biggest concern is that we've reached a point where we're perpetually dragging each other down. We've been on a pretty good road of recovery so far, but I'm seriously struggling with these last few months. It's hard to find a good way to balance each other's needs when we're barely handling our own. I know I'm not seeing this in a super healthy way, I'm way too concerned about making her feel better and being the best support I can. I think I'm just feeling shitty because I'm starting to realize there's not a whole lot of support coming my way at this point.

So I had an interview over Skype for a game developer position and I heard back the next day that I didn't get the position. It kinda sucked because I think it would've been great to work there. At the same I wasn't too surprised because in an earlier email conversation he (the employer) mentioned that he'd like to see me make my own game so that I'd have more practical experience. I asked about why I didn't get the position and he sort of mentioned something along the same line. The whole process was a lot of fun though, it was really interesting to talk with the guy because I look up to him and appreciate his works. On a different note I've started reading a book called "Reinventing Your Life" that my Mom gave to me. I've only read a chapter and already I know this book is gonna help a lot. It talks about life traps and how to overcome them. I'll probably talk about the book again as I read more about it. Even though I haven't read much of it I'd recommend that other people read it too, it's a bit of an old one though.

I recently found out I have glaucoma in both eyes, and pretty bad vision loss in one eye. I haven't been this emotional in a while, and it still hasn't really sunk in. I think the most worrying thing is that I don't know if any of the treatments are helping, but I'll know that soon enough. I also have no idea how it will progress, I'm in my early 20's :|.

Glaucoma is where the optic nerve is under pressure right? I wouldn't expect any treatments to instantly work, don't give up hope.

Hope is certainly there! Its weird feeling so up and down about it, I'm not used to having such mood swings.I cried today for the first time in a while. You're right, the disease is all about eye pressure. I'm taking drops to decrease the pressure and have a laser session later this month that fixes stuff as well. It'll be interested to see how my follow-ups go for my field of vision. I have about 75% of vision in my right eye and nearly all in my left right now. You really don't notice when your peripheral vision starts to go away...

One of the sayings I stick with is, "You can't love someone else until you learn to love yourself" From my viewpoint I don't see how you can love someone while in constant internal battle. How is that person meant to love you back when you think so little of yourself? It's extremely frustrating for the person who does love you and even though you may give lots of love outwards, this isn't always a good thing as you can be very overwhelming and even desperate to an extent. By loving myself I know I can put my full power into loving my SO and make her as happy as possible while also being confident in myself and happy in the situation I am. When you get two of these people, it's an extremely strong and loving relationship (but ofcourse not every relationship is perfect)

It just seems like a catch 22 for me, how can you love yourself if nobody will love you? It's like, if you say that you are a good conversationalist, but everyone you've ever talked to says you're a bad conversationalist, then the truth of the matter is that you are a bad conversationalist, it doesn't matter what your opinion of yourself is, because it's contrary to the objective truth. You don't get to say you're pleasant to be around, you don't get to say that you're good looking, and so forth. I'd argue it's the same for love, you don't get to say that you're worthy of being loved, if everybody else says that you are not. At least that's how I see it.

" how can you love yourself if nobody will love you?" you've just summed it up there. You are a human being, one whole person with emotions, feelings, a physical body. Why do you have to look outwards for love and attention when you can achieve all that in yourself? The fact that you have fused the idea of loving yourself with someone else loving you is why you're in that state of mind. This has nothing to do with anyone else, you need to look at yourself in the mirror and have a realistic look at who you are and what you are. If you aren't happy with your body, your job, your life as a whole. Do something. You are in charge of your own life and you cannot go and expect someone else to carry that burden for you under the name of 'love'. You will be either alone forever or have a horrible life in and out of relationships or in one shitty relationship. (you never know maybe you've find that perfect gal and all will work out) That may be the outcome of your life unless you make some big changes. I have not been very happy recently and I've taken to smoking weed everyday. It started as a fun thing to do but I am addicted. However I have spotted that my job was causing me an immense amount of stress and decided to hand in my notice without getting a new job. Big change but much needed.

Doctor just gave me lots of sleep medication and all it did was giving me nightmares and hallucinations all over the place. Bad experience but interresting.