Forum Discussion - v. Please Don't Call Hezzy A Cunt - General

Wouldn’t that just be a popularity contest? Lol. Miss Facepunch 2018.

The only reason i wanted to even be a mod was to have a giant avatar. Now I can do that with coins so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

I'm pretty sure that was the reason lot of people wanted to be a mod.

Is there any way of making logins not autodetect a logged in account? I have a work email that's usually logged in on my computer but I registered with a different gmail account and so I need to log out and back in every time I want to use facepunch.

I think I have enough coins to get an avatar the size of Texas but I like the size of my avatar as is. :X What we need are forum signatures! -- http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg

last time I posted one of these like last year, someone PMd me to meet up

Remember - it's only ten coins to add another line to your signature. Cue the 50 line signature!

Editing thread titles seems to be an obvious improvement (even if just for fixing typos). Wouldn't be hard to implement either, so I wonder what Garry's objection is.

You could have any name changes to your subscribed threads appear as a notification to prevent confusion. Make them all accumulate in one notification to prevent abuse.

Yeah I keep having people ask me to do that and I have to keep telling them I can't...

moving posts to the correct forums? :/ I did this today and so did @Paul-Simon I did suggest earlier being able to self-report post for mod help, pretty basic way of asking for a moderator without having to tag/reach out to one specifically

Considering how the last one went, I really don't know personally. Never thought I was ~popular~

Hillary won the popular vote btw

Are you using Chrome?

no such thing as bad publicity

Chrome/firefox/pale moon.

I know on Chrome you can swap between Google accounts on the top right bar, I do it with my girlfriend and work account for my bookmarks and shit

Like I've said in the OP, people need to manage their expectations. Things may not go the way they want. They need to accept this, or just leave. There is a point where posting about it won't benefit anybody. Things like this piss me off. My YouTube front page has been filled full of "LEAKED INFO" for the new GTA5 DLC when in reality nobody fucking knows anything outside of what Rockstar have put out. One of the reasons megathreads are disliked are because they are one "thread" of conversation. Look at fast moving threads for new game releases, when multiple topics crop up at once it's hard to keep track of everything. Forking basically just takes a megathread and organises it, hiding posts based on topics. For people who don't like the forking stuff they can just still use the threads normally. In my opinion, it's best to give people extra features that enable them to decide what to do, rather than force things on people. I don't know much about this technical stuff, could you link me your thread. I'll take a look with a view to sending it on to garry for his attention (unless of course he's already told you he's not gonna do it?) He's trying to get ahead of the curve. Internet forums as they are, are on the way out. If you try to think of any "classic" popular internet forums left there are not very many. Even SomethingAwful is noticeably slower and some would argue they were (or are) the pinnacle of internet forums. The problem with the forum is that people are fighting changes; posts criticising, moaning and being downright disrespectful about changes heavily outweigh those (such as your initial post) that are level headed, thoughtful and polite. Garry and I are only human at the end of the day and it's very easy to feel personally attacked, and when that is the case the go to thought is "why even bother". But I've powered through that and here I am answering people's questions. It's clear that people want stuff in an easy to find place, with known and comfortable ways of accessing the content they like. We want people to be exposed to more content, in the hopes it'll interest them and in turn generate more posts & content. It is a fine line to work between, because exposing people to new content takes them out of their comfort zone somewhat. We need to strike a balance, which is what we're still trying to do. It may not be happening as fast as people want (garry is working on other projects as well as the forums, I have a full time job and this is part time for me) but we'll get there eventually. They wouldn't be separate threads. It'd hide posts from within the megathread so it filters for that topic only. You can toggle it on and off so it kinda like sucks all the information you want into an easy to read flow, I guess. I've given up on the mobile site and have my browser set to display desktop now. As much as I would like to, there's no backend coded for it yet. I'll ask garry to disable it. Please could you provide an example of this We've been discussing forum specific rules with garry, just waiting to hear back on his input. If it goes ahead the old guidelines will be restored.

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I see your concerns and I believe the key element would be not to divert too much from the already established and comfortable to use megathread. People can carry on reading the thread as is, but rather we'd be adding a suite of filtering tools that help people follow strands of topics throughout the megathread. Paying a coin to bump a thread is a great idea, I'm going to make a thread about potential coin spendage ideas. As stated previously garry is working on a hub of sorts that will show all your subscribed threads in one place I'm afraid not, it's just going to be a case of physically skipping people's posts I don't really know what any of this is but it looks suitably complex, great job Please could you make a thread for suggestions for news bots? I'm not sure, I'll look into this for you

Thank you Hezzy. This is the kind of communication the community likes. I know it's hard sometimes, especially after a long work day/week, but it is greatly appreciated.

I'm not around some of the time, hence why the past few days all I could do was close threads and talk on Discord. I've always done stuff in massive chunks, not sure why more people haven't realised the pattern by now lol

I'm still confused on "Treat others how you would want to be treated". There's no refugee camp anymore - no real means to appeal your ban. So if you get banned because a moderator feels that you aren't willing to take the heat you're pushing out, you can just be banned for it without the opportunity to say 'but I'd be just fine being treated how I was treating others'? I'm not sure I understand the logic. Will we have account settings which tells moderators how much we're willing to tolerate - and therefore how others are able to treat us? Will that be publicly displayed so other people don't accidentally dish out more than that user is comfortable receiving? Isn't it entirely loaded on the end of the recipient anyway - where they have a fiat to basically say anything is 'not how they want to be treated' and therefore a reportable offense? I feel like we need more guidelines here than just 'essentially, the golden rule'.

Just noticed that someone got banned for spoilers, so that's still bannable if anyone was wondering.

That should be added in some way to the rules, imo, then. Some people don't care about spoilers - others care a lot - and we can't even call it shitposting because that's 'subjective shit' as the rules call out.

idk I figure spoilers are still kind of a dick move!

To some, yeah. If the rule is really meant to be read as 'don't be a dick' (which is basically what Rule 1 used to be way back when) then I don't get why that isn't the rule. I guess because it would contradict the later rule of 'we can't ban you for subjective shit like shitposting'? But since it's being enforced, isn't it already contradicting? I dunno, I just don't feel the rules are clear enough to make that sort of thing called out for 'don't do this'. I mean if people are just getting short one hour bans for it with a post modify to remove the spoiler I guess that could work too but it seems like it'd just be adding work for moderators when it could just be in the rules instead.

If we chose not to hide the forked posts, would it all still be posted within the thread chronologically? I really like the idea if it just acts like a series of tagged posts that could be hidden. It'd need some auto quoting feature if it's in chronological order, or a link back to the OP of the fork

Don't spoil the actual rules

Yeah that's exactly what it would be. Or at least how I envision it. Very early doors at the moment