An Overview of John McCain (Mostly) Sinister Legacy

[Raidyr]

It's okay to not like McCain's politics but it's p shitty to push the "songbird" lies.

[DaCool]

This is contrasted to the fact that McCain championed the Iraq war from the very beginnings to the very fruitless end.
Nope, hard pass.
He had the most basic form of human respect, decency, civility and class. That is it, I know in current times this seems like an achievment, but it is actually not, it just show far the US politics , especially the right, has fallen into tribalism.
Also he gave Sarah Palin a platform which majorly contributed to the state of Trumpism today.
Would it maybe have happend anyway? Who knows, who cares, fact is he was involved.
As much of a "Maverick" he supposedly was, he sure stuck to party lines even though he had all the reason and opportunity not to.

Actions speak louder then words, he sure did alot of talking but not alot of voting to show for it

[EggplantSorcerer]

I see this brought up a lot but nobody ever seems to actually clarify what song he sang.

[Ridge]

I'm sure he wished he could have done as much harm to the troops in Vietnam as Jane Fonda did.

[Garro]

McCain actually changed his mind and admitted that the Iraq War "can't be judged as anything other than a mistake, a very serious one, and I have to accept my share of the blame for it."

[Shitty Bill]

I'm kind of beyond trying to argue about McCain at this point, so I'll just use this article to state my point instead.

John McCain was funny and acerbic and had soul and pathos and blind spots and cruelty and conviction. He was bellicose. He was bled and broken and brave for his country. He was dangerous and his decency as a man is belied by the death toll of the foreign policy he espoused. He sold out to corporations but he believed in campaign finance reform. He saved Obamacare but would have repealed it. He was enamored of independence and then surprised you by living up to it, rarely. He was complicated. He believed in America. He was big in a place filled with tiny tiny little fuckers. He was a patriot and he was wrong. He was a patriot and if there is a core challenge we face right now, if you could say in one sentence what may doom this country, it is that cowardice, greed, hate, and power have drained the patriotism of one of our two political parties.

It’s true, the world would be far worse if John McCain had his way. But it would be far better if more politicians had a shred of his character. And that ought to be mourned. That ought to be grieved. And if he is not an adversary to celebrate in death, if he is not an opponent to pause and appreciate, then none can be.

From

http://wwwhttps://crooked.com/article/john-mccain-death-politics/.google.com/

[DaCool]

Just saying sorry doesn't cut it, I am quite aware of his last words in his memoir,
regarding the Iraq war, Sarah Palin and other regrets he has.

But as I said, alot of talk, not much else.

[Clovis]

From a purely logical standpoint, I understand why people say that there's no need to wait for a death to be internalised and processed in our minds before we criticise, but I'm afraid I'm unable to do that. I have Asperger's, but contrary to popular belief, I feel a great deal of empathy for other people, especially in situations such as this.

It's why some jokes about 9/11 would have been totally unacceptable in 2001-2002, but are very funny now. For instance:
"When I see Harvey Weinstein, it's a bit like seeing 9/11 again - not in the sense that it makes me sad - but because of the fact that I'd really like to see a plane fly into his fat face."