Firearms XVII - Stuffing A $100 Hi-Point Down the Front of My Jorts Edition
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Well I'd imagine like anything when new it'll probably be very expensive comparatively speaking, but once the scale of economics kicks in the prices would come down.
Right now current stuff is pretty expensive to manufacture, as its all done "small batch" using new materials and manufacturing techniques that haven't quite matured when it comes to paying for themselves.
I imagine brass cartridges would hang around for some decades once caseless takes off in popularity, if only because of the sheer volume of firearms using that tech already on the market.
Probably eventually go the way of the muzzle-loader; relegated to curio-and-relic collectors, fudds and other such malcontents.
the lip is to improve the magwell's rigidity, and the chamfer in it is so if it does get tweaked it's not impossible to get a mag past the hard edge. you could cut off a significant amount for a competition gun, but you'll lose maybe 2 or 3 oz tops
Still have to worry about putting a round in the chamber unless I'm missing something. I imagine the mechanisms for one wouldn't actually be that different.
Loading only requires a bolt and a feed ramp of sorts. Ejection requires at minimum an extractor and an ejector, which means more parts and machining to the bolt. As far as the mechanisms they are on two opposite ends of the spectrum.
Technically you only need an ejector if you design a blowback gun where the recoil from the shot is enough to kick the spent casing back, but of course an extractor adds to the reliability and usability in case of a light primer strike.
I think you have that mistaken. Pretty much all lock breached firearms need an ejector to kick the Shell out of the action as the extractor is primarily there to pull the shell from the chamber. Some blowback firearms, such as the G3 and derivatives, can work with a damaged our non-existent ejector since the violent action of the bolt going rearword can provide enough energy to kind of bounce the shell out of the extractor. In practice you don't see that at all in any successful firearms because the direction of the election is unpredictable, this leading to malfunctions. In that regard the ejector serves not only to kick out the shell, but to put the shell in a predictable ejection path.
iirc, there were some early rimless cartridges with no extractor groove, the weapons firing them were intended to rely on recoil for ejection like he said.
They didn't stick around long though, for the reasons you stated.
Went to the gun shop to get some foam ear plugs to help sleep, and I ended up leaving with a Ruger 10/22 Takedown. It's got the Magpul backpacker stock, 4 10rd mags and a threaded barrel.
Dahir Insaat designs a gun.
plenty of early blowbacks had neither, lots of exceptionally cheap submachine guns too.
You are correct and I was mistaken. Point is there's a reason why you don't see that pretty much at all these days.
Don’t forget the Zip22. No extractor or ejector.
No reliable function, either, so that’s not saying much, but still.
Managed to sneak this out of an estate sale for $170. It was in a box with a bunch of cheapshit Raven Arms .25 autos and the like, so I'm not sure anyone knew any better. It helps that there was no mention of any firearms on the estate sale ad. Serial dates to 1954.
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Anyone got a spare M7 bayonet? I've been meaning to pick one up for my Colt 602, but managed to score this neat prototype aluminum grip panel that converts it into a trench knife.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294604797217079298/498627746772156466/image0.jpg
Midway had some surplus ones a couple months ago. Picked up a new in wrap one for $40. Well used ones were $20. Just be aware that you might end up with on with an all plastic sheath and no one of the earlier ones with the metal caps.
Looks like they're out now, I'll probably score one on ebay for 40-50 bucks in the next few weeks when I get paid.
Check www.apexgunparts.com too.
So soon I plan on buying an AR9 and I want to throw in a binary trigger but I have one question.. should I throw in a heavy buffer and spring?
I plan to shoot cheap 9mm through it, 115 grain stuff. I just want it to cycle properly of course. I read somewhere 9mm AR's need a heavy buffer but can't find a clear concise answer.
Some people say the standard buffer works fine, others not.
While this video is long, it does contain a lot of good information on 9mm ARs. The buffers are related to how the 9mm bolt behaves. In the video, he talks about how the 9mm bolt would travel too far back and ended up jamming brass into the fire control group. Keep this in mind when buying/build a 9mm AR.
https://youtu.be/vo4TNBQ5_ns
Thanks! So I got my answer for how i'll build the 9mm AR if I do.
Thing is, i'm debating whether I should build the pistol in 9mm or 5.56.
It's going to be a 7.5-10.5 barrel, haven't decided on that and it's going to be for home defense aswell with a binary trigger in it for fun.
What would you guys recommend in a build like that? 9mm or 5.56?
Don't buy an AR9, get a CMMG Guard in 9mm, radially delayed blowback is better and you wont have all of those silly "9mm blowback shoehorned into an AR receiver" issues.
If you're still dead set on an AR9, check out Quarter Circle 10 and watch the video onthe differences between the Colt derivatives and the QC10 variant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pqmNeJXx50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmr6Lc3TuYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4hSYOtOKXw
You could also get an AR45 instead.
Hey guys. I'm not a big gun enthusiast but I'm looking into buying a certain shotgun for home defence.
Any thoughts on the Mossberg 590 Shockwave?
Don't buy a shock wave. They are gimmicky and not a very good starting gun. It's not even on the list for your first 5 guns to own, even. While it sounds good and looks cool, you would need to do some serious training to properly aim and fire with out whacking your self or putting shots where you don't want to. While shotguns do spread, they do not spread like how movies and video games portray it. At 25 yards, you still have to line up your shot. Even more so when closer than that.
The only good thing about the shockwave and the TAC14 is if you are doing some form of security and you need a concealable shotgun that did not destroy your hand when firing. Even then, I would go with a 20 gauge over the 12 in that form factor.
Buy a shotgun with a proper stock mounted on it. A used remington 870, Mossberg 500, or even a Maverick 88 will do. Preferably with an 18" barrel. Learn how to aim down the barrel, and practice running the action and reloading.
Buy a shotgun like this:
https://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/img/products/large/mossberg_500_home_defense_12_gauge_shotgun_1503484_1.jpg
Cool. Thanks man. Appreciate it.
In terms of having to kill a home intruder, would a 20 gauge do the job effectively?
Yes, with less recoil and fewer pellets but still effective. Hopefully the intruder is spooked and running away by then so you don't have to shoot.
Alright. I'm going to do a bit more research but you've been very helpful. Thank you.
There's really no need to get a 20G. If you really have trouble with recoil get yourself a 12G and low recoil ammo. Better yet, get a rifle.
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