Holy shit, is he inside the second tower at 5:30? Or is that just a nearby building?
Looks like he was inside with William Bennette, who was later charged with theft of government property for stealing five cars that were meant to be destroyed
Jules Naudet was in tower one while tower two collapsed in his 9/11 documentary
https://youtu.be/6bDN5iVXD7E?t=3150
There's also this harrowing video on the eve of 9/11 until the dusk consumes the last traces of the smoke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYOr8TlnqsY
He's in Tower 7.
I think that just shows how great that movie is. Seriously.
My dad was an NYPD officer since I was born. He was a first responder and although he didn't spend much time in the wreckage that day, I was only 5 at the time so i didn't realize he was part of the proceeding cleanup crew for months. He just passed last year due to a severe liver problem, which as it turns out was set off after years of the dust/debris in the air from 9/11. I always thought that my dad walked away unscathed, but as it turns out that's far from the case.
It's really difficult to see footage like this now because I see all the people covered in dust and ash and all I can think is "please get out of there. you don't know what you're breathing in. it's not safe." You guys should watch the Naudet documentary, it talks about this stuff later on. One of the police guys says "I think there's something brewing in all of us." It's really eerie. At my job we've had tons of cops come in and I'll talk to them about my father, and they usually have their own stories of people still passing away because of complications from 9/11. 17 years later and while not many are aware, we're still seeing the absolutely devastating effects of it and it's a tragedy that still claims more victims as time goes on.
My dad's job during cleanup was to take notes of remains; people or objects that were found. He had his notepad on him at all times, recording stuff that they found. Over the years he would say things really randomly about stuff that was found in 9/11 whenever it was brought up in conversation. One of the things I still think about was when he said "they found an airplane seat! the whole plane crashed and burned, and there was a whole airplane seat with someone still strapped in! crazy!" My mom recently told me that she wanted to look at his notepad at some point, and he said not to ever look in there. We couldn't find it after he passed away.
Random info chime-in here, the debris from the collapse is not "smoke" or "ash," it's silica from the broken concrete. Silica is a common job-site hazard in a lot of primary and secondary industries (mining and, construction mostly), silicosis is a condition that has similar complications to asbestos exposure. Basically when you pulverize rock or concrete, it releases tonnes of tiny inert abrasive particles that you can inhale. You body does not really have any way to get it out of your lungs, so it just sits there and has scar-tissue build up over it. After long quantitative exposure you have so much scar tissue build up that the alveoli in your lungs can't absorb oxygen properly (a general condition called pulomonary fibrosis) and you get permanent breathing problems, and/or death.
Given how wary people in industry labor are of comparatively small amounts of silica exposure, it can't be stressed just how fucked a lot of the people who got caught up in that silica cloud are. That was like the same level of exposure that a concrete finisher would get after 30 years of work, it can ruin your life or kill you, easily.
seeing that guy standing 30 feet from the north tower less than an hour before it goes is horrifying to watch.
like the South Tower collapsing wasn't enough to scare him off. That's some fucking dedication.
Agreed, and with the building next to it in flames, and then you hear debris falling.
It was just eerie to watch, knowing that massive building he is standing next to will be gone shortly.
Your dad sounds very heroic and brave. That kind of sacrifice is unimaginable... A notepad like that might have great value at the 9/11 memorial museum if you ever find it. Who knows what future generations could learn from it.
https://youtu.be/OdMqX_F66rE
https://youtu.be/Bgt5a-HoPPo
that whole feel like it was just shot jesus christ
9/11 happened when I was 3 years old, and I live in a completely different country, so I never really grasped the event itself. This thread made me spend my entire morning watching all this footage, looking at the archived SA thread, reading Wikipedia articles, and I even watched that 102 minutes documentary. This stuff is just harrowing, and I can't even begin to imagine how it must have been for you guys closer to the event, and how it has impacted you or your teen/child years.
Did he enter the fucking WTC at the 6 minute mark or is that just a closeby building?
Cause if he did that's god damn crazy holy shit
Not the original 2 towers, but rather 7 WTC (you can tell by the 7's in the glass). It was a smaller building that existed near the towers and eventually got destroyed by debris and fire.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/113610/4929a2c3-5e36-42b7-8cca-b30f3580f1dc/image.png
It's what keeps you sane
CBS and MSNBC aired his footage in its entirety that night, it just wasn't this clear.
Discovery did a check up about five years ago on most of the people featured in this and the NBC videos, most of the 1Rs had either black lung or were on cancer watch, of those that hadn't died already.
I was 4 years old when it happened, I think. I can't imagine how completely surreal it must've been to see it as it happened, even for people in my country and others. Imagine waking up to this. TWO airplanes have deliberately hit the Twin Towers AND there might be more. I get why some people might've thought the fucking world was ending. Imagine casually going to work in one of the towers, it gets hit by an airplane and just like that, you're doomed. Those videos of trapped people waving for help or leaping out of the building is probably the most horrific thing. You can't escape, you're being driven towards the blown out window by fire and smoke. They must've realized that that was it, right? What would you even be thinking as you're plummeting towards your death for 10 seconds? I have a hard time watching that stuff. Awful.
He entered tower 7, which was smashed when towers 1 and 2 collapsed, and itself came down that afternoon.
Still god damn crazy, damn. I'm not surprised he didn't run from that incoming dust when the tower fell with balls that massive weighing him down
My father was meant to work on the penthouse of WTC 7. Repairing one of the generators that had been on the fitz.
He stayed home because he got really sick with a flu that was going through our neighborhood, and all I remember coming home too that day was him screaming about rejoining the military, and crying because he thought someone else had been sent in his heed. No one was, thankfully.
'Never happening' would have to mean that it was staged I would imagine
Same for holocaust denial and the moon landing
It was all 'staged' which means you can automatically dismiss any and all evidence as merely a 'cover up'
They weren't alone, my parents were saying "Fuck, we're going to be under mushroom clouds tomorrow". Then we calmly went to parents evening at the High School, you could see everybody there was visibly nervous but nobody spoke of it. It was like "Don't mention the war" jumped back into our collective conciousness.
I was born in 87, so my memories of the time are pretty clear, I feel like everybody was a lot less serious, more open, colourful, care free, though my mind is probably clouded by youthful ignorance. The 90's were definitely an era of post-coldwar optimism and reconcilation, but that ended with 9/11, attitudes have certainly changed, the world, well, the west, is a much more serious and partisan place, almost opressively so. Maybe this is normailty, who knows? The 90's were an anomaly for sure, caught between two great events, much like the roaring 20's.
The 90's were period of thinking for yourself and making up your own mind, and I wouldn't really call staring down the barrel of the truth about a lot of things 'optimistic', and media, especially music, of the time reflects that pretty hardcore. The difference between now and then is the difference between gen x and millenials, which is mostly in a willingness to admit not only do you not have all the answers, but you're not even sure you asked all the right questions.
Comedy is about making the painful truths palatable so you can address them head on.
The "man of the 90s" was George Carlin, the "man of the post millenials" is Kevin Hart, and that pretty much distills the differences pretty distinctly.
I hear things about the years and even months leading up to 9/11/01, and everyone says these things: Hope. Optimism. Everything was going to be okay.
That’s… just so different than anything I have felt in my memory, especially now. I was almost 2 when it all changed.
I wish I could have experienced this country before it all went to shit.
This event took the lives of nearly 3000 people and injured 6000. Only 6 years prior, the US suffered the Oklahoma City Bombing which took the lives of 168 people and injured over 680.
It has been nearly 17 years since 9/11 and we haven't had another attack at this scale. (not counting Pulse nightclub shooting, killed 50 injured 58, or Las Vegas shooting, killed 59 injured 422)
The magnitude of 9/11 is almost unfathomable.
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