(NSFL) Man shot and killed by father-son duo in Abilene Texas
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I think it's more probable that I'm the only one conversing here that doesn't live with their parents and actually has friends outside of incel chatrooms.
i felt like they were at least making an attempt by repeating "back off" a few dozen times
I think these guys should have at least tried to back off and call the police. If the guy with the shotgun noticed he missed with the bat right away, there'd be no justification to shoot him unless he was charging.
Good luck. In a stressful situation, shooting with any amount of accuracy is very difficult even at close ranges.
Have fun legally, because not shooting to kill opens up the possibility for them to sue the ever-living shit out of you after the fact, and weakens your self-defense case in the present because if you weren't shooting to kill, then you probably weren't in fear of your life, in which case you shouldn't have shot at all.
Don't even try it. These precious cinnamon buns have done nothing wrong.
I would definitely want to have a gun if I had to defend myself against someone trying to kill me with a baseball bat.
If I had to match a baseball bat with another baseball bat against the average man my ass would get beat to death.
Also a fucking shotgun cannot possibly land any "non-lethal" or "less than lethal" shots because it's a flurry of lead bundled together in a nice fast-moving cloud of fuck-your-shit.
"6ft 7in"
Uh, Did they mean 5ft 7in? There's no way in hell he's that tall.
Also when you shoot someone there is no such thing as trying to make a "non-lethal" shot. There's a reason it's called a lethal weapon, because shooting someone is always an intent to kill even if they don't die.
Which is why he shouldn't have a fuckin shotgun there in the first place.
How would you do that? Open up your pip-boy to enter an interface where time is slowed down, and you can calculate exactly where on what limb to shoot someone and cripple them without killing them? This isn't a video game, that's why even the police aim for centermass every time.
yea he should have just let himself get brained by a baseball bat becuz guns r bad and the orange guy was a hero who didn't pose any harm at all
I'm just saying what I'd try to do if I HAD to. Obviously I don't know exactly what I'd do in the situation, and neither do you or anybody else here.
He should have fought him in honorable baseball bat to baseball bat combat who cares if the other guy is probably stronger and faster than him. Survival of the fittest.
I'm not saying the orange guy did anything right!!! He's a human trash just like them! I'm not saying they just take it either! I'm saying they shouldn't have shot the gun in the fuckin face. That's all.
Plenty of people said they should have deescalated things. Why even post this shit? Who are you fooling except yourself?
So where should have they shot him then when shooting someone at all is an intent to kill?
Yeah and so am I. But anybody who even smells like they might say something against guns is immediately dog piled on Facepunch.
Okay, so you admit that nobody knows exactly what they'd do in a self defense situation.
What makes you sure, based on your previous assertion, that they meant to shoot the guy in the face?
Your avatar is a 'hero' character who regularly tells people around him he's going to kill them over petty shit as some kind of joke, because he's an angsty teenager. I really wouldnt mention an avatar like this if it wasnt for the nonstop 3 pages of insisting that "im going to kill you" while weilding a deadly weapon is just bants, but come on dude, real life isn't anime, if you tell someone you're going to kill them outside of the absolute friendliest of situations it's serious shit and this is rediculous enough that maybe you really do think it's just banter, it isn't.
This isn't a fucking video game, that's not how that shit works hahahahaha
If you have to shoot someone, you shoot to kill. If this is all you know about guns you'd probably end up shooting yourself in the foot before you shot someone else.
Have you considered you just have absolutely no idea, at all, what you are talking about? That the statements you are making are completely detached from reality? That maybe there is a reason you've got a lot of people telling you that you're wrong? And that instead of digging in and choosing to die on this hill you could just swallow whatever pride you have and go, "I fucked up."
They shouldn't have shot him. The older walrus fired the warning shots and he threw his bat which means the threat is now only a dude with fists, and then the younger shot him in the face with a shotgun.
Yeah dude you got dogpiled because you said something bad about guns and not because you are an incessant shitposter.
Except you have no real arguments other that "youre detached from reality" (which is rich coming from a community that jacks off to cartoons and animals)
I don't care if you dogpile me. I'm just warning someone who might not find it as entertaining.
Well no the argument has been that the guy with the bat who has a history of violence and criminal behavior making constant death threats against people who he is infringing upon is actively putting himself in a situation that justifies firing on him. Especially when he moves to make good on those threats with a weapon.