• Coolest/Ugliest Weapons v11 - Less qq more pewpew
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But this thread is 75% bitching about aesthetics
That much is true. Speaking of which, whoever measured this must have used an imperial tape, and just assumed it was metric https://i.imgur.com/a0fsHRr.jpg 'cause that sure as fuckin' hell ain't 400 meters the arrow shows.
https://www.c4isrnet.com/digital-show-dailies/ausa/2018/10/07/oshkosh-robot-trucks-could-roll-out-to-the-army-by-2020/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYmzT22524&ab_channel=RTDocumentary
Yeah I figured the adjustment dials and any markings would be a problem from the back, didn't know there were rear peeps that were conical though. Interesting. Speaking of sights, the Steyr M pistols have a very interesting one: https://pictures.gunauction.com/8647152023/dsc_4057.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg It's triangular and trapezoidal https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/m40-sightpic.jpg Also the weird ASP-9 stealth pistol had an interesting sight: it has no front! https://s14544.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/asp9_guttersnipe_sight_replaced_both_the_front_and_rear_sights.jpg Just a really long rear sight notch that gradually gets narrower. High speed low drag http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/4d/ASP_9.jpg/400px-ASP_9.jpg Absolutely beautiful pistol too.
that's a gutter sight if memory serves me right, the whole pistol was pretty much meant as a quick self defence pistol from what i remember correctly ian did a video on it too, lemme dig it up
http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/B8434975-4FBC-4A32-9198-C05778603954.jpeg http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/A4732B3A-29C3-46FB-B477-B008EFE4B4D4.jpeg Sig Sauer's new multi-caliber machine gun which is chambered in .338 NM and their new 6.8mm cartridge http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/BF63EA32-8A0A-4B0A-AC87-884E51DBAA64.jpeg http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/2C714477-A2C4-4683-B432-2C58AD7B7FFA.jpeg Sig MCX-MR (Medium Range) prototype which is developed from a shortened version of their CSASS submission http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/img_7059.jpg http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/img_7072-440x599.jpg 6.5mm "Hybrid" ammo which supposedly weighs 20% less than traditional brass cased rounds and has increased velocity http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/EA094AFD-7EE6-4254-A569-9BA6B1139CB1.jpeg KAC Light Assault Machine gun in 6.5 Creedmoor http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/1E2EC704-837D-4CC7-BEF0-3F6AA7C80278.jpeg http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/9FC03467-33F3-47CA-A0BC-E6DE9332905B.jpeg H&K M110A1 in SDMR for the US Army. Pretty much the same as the CSASS but it comes with a 1-6x Sig Tango 6 scope
I don't understand why they went with 338 NM instead of 338 Lapua Magnum which is already in military use. Ballistically they're basically the same and have almost the same overall length.
Supposedly .338 Norma is easier to link together in a machine gun belt than Lapua. Probably because the thick part of the cartridge that the link goes around is shorter on NM. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/.338_Lapua_Magnum_vs_.338_Norma_Magnum.jpg/1024px-.338_Lapua_Magnum_vs_.338_Norma_Magnum.jpg http://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/foundry/image/?q=60&url=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fthe-drive-staging%2Fmessage-editor%252F1494867248615-lwmmg-2.jpg There also aren't a whole lot of .338 LM users in the US Military outside of some of the "Tier 1" units. Most of SOCOM and the US Army just uses .300 WM in the Mk 13/M2010 or .50 cal in the M107 Barrett. Marines are just at the cusp of finally getting .300WM but most Scout Sniper units still use 7.62 NATO M40A6s or M110s.
So ARMA 3 did get it right.
The ArmA 3 machine gun is just the General Dynamics .338 NM Lightweight Medium Machine Gun prototype with a shorter barrel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klr0EXZty6s http://www.imfdb.org/images/8/8d/Spmg2.jpg http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/97F58514-FB4A-4C2B-A3FF-E4AEAA425891.png
Yeah, don't see why they didn't just make a lightened and shorter M110 instead of letting H&K fuck with it. Guess H&K need to suck as many dollars out of the US military as possible.
https://www.knightarmco.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/m110k1_white1.jpg KAC did offer M110K1 conversion kits but didn't get downselected. I think the reason why so many countries end up going H&K or FN is because they have the industrial capacity to produce lots of arms to meet the demand of an army while maintaining quality in a more consistent manner than smaller companies like KAC or LMT. Both those companies are known for making very high end version of the AR-10/15, but there were a lot of problems with the initial batches of the M110 which probably soured the Army on KAC and LMT recently had issues with their New Zealand contract rifles breaking bolts. When trying to meet the demand of a large government contract, they had to cut some corners or outsource certain parts which led to quality control issues. Bigger companies can afford to keep more of their production in-house which gives them more control over the quality of what they produce and ultimately that's what government customers care about in the long run.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/2dcb74a35ece996c89e1706f65082d8e/tumblr_pgajxjDbOM1sz4jioo1_1280.png https://66.media.tumblr.com/69f2edcc2c8c627b66c7167112cb0b91/tumblr_pgajxjDbOM1sz4jioo2_1280.png Homemade revolver shotguns, apparently from Russia
Is that a fucking stapler?
Yup, they're pretty popular because they make for reasonably effective firing pins.
Where’d they pull those from? The metro?
Staplers are fairly common in "craft-produced" and homemade gun design: https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/stapler38zipgun-improguns.jpg?w=625 https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/staple-gun-firearm-k-441-1.jpg?w=625 https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/tacticalstapler38.jpg They are crazy effective for firing pings. Hell, IIRC some folks during the Yugoslav wars used them as firing pin assemblies for artillery/mortars.
I can believe it. Those things have enough pressure to go straight through your hand, put that behind a firing pin and I'd be very surprised if it ever failed to ignite a primer; though I'd actually be a bit worried about it piercing through the primer entirely.
can you reduce the pull of the "trigger" on those things? it would be had to stay on target on how much force it needs to.
Think of them more as slightly less traumatic ways to stab someone from a slightly higher range.
Probably not, I think the force squeezed into them is directly proportional to the force they release. If it's any comfort, I doubt any of the guns made with them have better accuracy than a shaky-handed user squeezing that thing anyway.
So for my 1907th, how about a 1907? https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/5212/963523175/wm_11256509.jpg Honestly they're kinda crap, but they do look nice, Winchester made sure it kept their classic aesthetic.
Wasn't that in BF1 as well?
Yeah, and apparently it's gonna be in BFV too. Far as I (and by I I mean Othais over at C&Rsenal) can tell they were primarily issued to French airmen and balloon crews as defensive weapons during WW1. I don't even know if any actually made it to WW2 but considering France dug absolutely everything out of storage I guess they could have. It's a pretty interesting little rifle, semi automatic with a detachable box magazine, and the French specifically requested 10 round high capacity mags with multiple issued per gun. But mechanically it's just a gigantic straight blowback action. Inside the handguard there's a big bar of steel that's hanging off the front of the bolt to add mass. And because Browning managed to patent a bolt-mounted charging handle, the charging handle on the 1907 is actually a button on the nose of the handhuard that you have to push all the way in, working against quite a bit of pressure.
Hezzy picked a good time to bring us back from the dead: https://youtu.be/1_8qLFoMzl4
I a now curious. Is a mossberg's 930 gas action better than Benelli's Argo system? Arguably cheaper than Benelli but is the extra dosh you put into a Benelli worth it?
I'm not generally into weapons like swordguns and axeguns because i always feel they're impactical and most would break the moment you swung them but honestly this one is pretty heckin' neat https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b6/a5/2f/b6a52fff84a5aebca770b1ecfebdfbe5.jpg Apparently it's a combination of a rather sizeable flintlock (i think, i'm not good at early guns) and silat, or elephant goad, which is/was used in the training of elephants. Seems like it'd be pretty wicked against people too, what little information i can find on it says it's all steel and about 20 inches long by 7 inches wide, which is prolly barrel to hook end. You could prolly use the hook to brace as well, a la early handgonnes like hackbuts i think they're called.
Pretty sure it's a caplock, not a flintlock, although it might have been converted from a flintlock. Caplocks use a percussion cap placed on a protruding tube, and a hammer that simply hits it. Flintlocks have a small pan full of powder, and a steel piece above it which is struck by a piece of flint. Many late flintlocks were converted to caplock systems (and many late caplocks were converted to rimfire), so your source may not be wrong in saying that it was a flintlock, just not anymore.
The flintlock bit was my own assumption based off my lack of knowledge, i had to check a few different places for any info on it and what i found is what i posted
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