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sounds depressing like giving cpr to a day old corpse
What the fuck is happening
Been lurking for about 7 years now, if there's a replacement forum, I'll be seeing you guys there. If not, then it's been an honor.
I have a good solution to this problem.
Listen to what the community has to offer to the forum instead of making drastic changes out of the blue that no one likes then immediately cry 'woe was me' when literally nobody likes said changes.
You wanted feedback when the new forums opened up but didn't bother to apply any of the feedback received. It's frustrating for both sides. Just please listen to us.
I think we are going to have to wait a while to get a response from garry. He is probably busy.
I mean it obviously wouldn't be FP, but it would at least be a way for the current community to live on in roughly the same way
The car is on fire, and there's no driver at the wheel
And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides
And a dark wind blows
The government is corrupt
And we're on so many drugs
With the radio on and the curtains drawn
We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine
And the machine is bleeding to death
The sun has fallen down
And the billboards are all leering
And the flags are all dead at the top of their poles
It seems the sea of piss has finally run dry...
It really depends on the sections and threads you go to, but SA is a little too big for my liking. FP has a nice balance between too big and too small, enough to have a recognizable community, and a variety of subforums to keep me coming back. Though the changes today were a little too much. I thought most child forums were unnecessary, but a lot of the subforums removed today were really popular
I've been here ever since I upgraded from dial-up, I'd hate to see it get shut down but I can understand where garry's coming from. I just hope he can somehow pass it on to someone else if that's the case
I’m very confused as to why like five forums were combined just before this announcement. No non spiteful reason could justify making a mess like that
Let's move to PHWOnline.
A big shame if Facepunch ends up shutting down. I've yet to see a similar website with this unique kind of structure. And no, Reddit and other similar sites don't count even if they are popular.
Garry feels that the forum is a burden that doesn't provide anything, and as such wants to shut it down
I was join Facepunch in January 2017 under old username just to talk about some topic.
But really now Newman decided to screw everyone’s time and all quarter of all your thread history is now gone.
Was talking with someone else about this and they basically summed up my problem with Reddit in a nutshell. Reddit, at most, is a comments section. And while I'm sure you can have meaningful discussion in a comments section, most of the time you're really not going to.
And Discord is great for real-timeish discussion, but the problem is it's not great for permanent discussion, if you get what I mean. It's often the case you're mid topic and someone else comes in "hey have you seen this update" "Yes, we have, it's what we've been talking about for the last ten minutes" and it suffers from the same "problem" that megathreads have.
I came around when the pyromania update was about to hit. That was back when literally everything that happened in the TF2 subforum was reposted to /r/TF2. Decided that maybe I should join so I can see the source of all of it. and now I am stuck here unable to leave. I know I haven't been here long. Pyromania was only like 6 years ago. But still. I'm surprised I managed to be here this long without having some shit follow my name around forever.
Probably a longshot but if Garry really just wants to rid himself of the burden of maintaining the forums I know several people including myself who'd be happy offloading it to another server.
So newpunch was an entire waste of time and was never meant to be a finished product I take it? So all of the bullshit changes that did nothing but make the forums harder to use was just to fuck with us?
or was the negative feedback to Garry literally not reading anything legitimate criticism enough to make him throw the final tantrum?
the goal was to drive people away but i don't think it worked
that seems to be the goal of most changes to this site
Christ almighty, time sure does fly.
...anyways, more on topic - I, like many, have been personally influenced by Facepunch. I think it'd be a shame to see it go, and as others have said, I think most of the criticism comes from a place of investment and passion.
A good quote I heard is that "Anger is better than Apathy," and I feel that especially applies here.
But, if Garry does choose to shut down the forums, I appreciate the excellently cultivated sense of community over the years, and I'll fondly look back on my time here. You guys are a lovable bunch.
Facepunch has become my main source of info and community since 2012, i'd be sad for it to go. Garry if you can and wish, do give ownership to a user or group of users who will care for it.
I mean the early days of Rust were also backed by this forum as well. Not to mention S&Box or whatever is a thing and it's basically just the next stage of Gmod so it's going to be right back in the same position. This is a dedicated community that has existed for almost 15 years and has grown up around a development studio. There are not many other instances of that happening and it's an almost invaluable asset because that is a dedicated fanbase. I mean we're talking about the same level as gamers who got their start as a kid with an NES and stuck with Nintendo thereafter, or Microsoft with the original Xbox. Or imagine having been like 10 years old when Iron Man came out and a decade later you have the monolith that is the MCU. Having a community of fans that have been around basically since your inception is pretty much a golden goose in any industry.
Wait what the fuck? Jesus christ, where does the time go.
Reddit ultimately isn't built for conversation at all. It's a content aggregater. It's great for people to look up a topic and find media related to that topic. But not for actually discussing that media or that topic at any length.
Short length works. If you ask a question (especially in hobby subreddits) and get several different replies, it's easy to keep discussions around those separate replies isolated from the rest.
For large subreddits or threads with a lot of replies, however...yeah...
if FP goes tits up i'll have nowhere else to go
Yup and I remember it clearly as well. I was in highschool. at a friends house. As we were refreshing the page for Meet the Pyro to go up. Good times.
Now that I think about it, the only other place I see any "long form" discussion on topics is youtube comments... oh i think I'm gonna be sick.
Feels like all communities I've been part of are dying.
I have legit never felt this hopeless for the future.
I'm from the future, here to deliver a grave warning:
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