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The forums even more useless, at least before we had subsections which were fairly populated. Now it feels like everything was deleted and instead of these subsections being recreated they've just gone all together.
I really enjoyed viewing the news, video and crap, and LMAO pics.
Is the rules page ever coming back?
How long has it been gone for?
Now that threads are getting buried in an avalanche, I don't quite understand what the point of these changes are.
Garry wanted to get rid of megathreads, so he creates a ton of child forums for any number different single topics, ie(mario, tf2, red dead redemption, gta). Now if you take some time to think about that, you're either going to have a tiny list of 20~ games that never gets updated and most will end up not being used, or you're gonna get like a 100+ different tiny subforums. This would also presumably end up being used in other parts of the forum as well, ie UK/EU/US, Economy/technology news etc. Where we'd end up with thousands of these tiny subforums. Users obviously complained about these issues, and development went dark for a few weeks/months. Eventually we got the ability to filter out spam/subforums, and many users suggested turning the system into a tag system with filters and search functions, where mods could add new tags etc.
Development goes dark again, and nothing happens, most of the forum goes back to normal minus the glaring issues with rules and moderation. Presumably because users didn't like 100+ different subforums for single topics, garry comes back and deletes all subforums. Including the large ones, which because of traffic and necessity required to be seperate, are now all crunched into general which as stated is now a mess.
It just feels like garry goes for one extreme, people complain about it. Then goes for the other extreme and gets rid of ALL subforums, seemingly to spite people. Now development is dark again and by old trends it's gonna be another month or two before something changes.
I'm going to be nice and assume ignorance over malice.
Maybe he genuinely doesn't understand how we want it.
IMO, here are the only changes needed to "fix" Facepunch:
1 - Reinstate Fast Threads
2 - Reinstate Videos
3 - Let a selection of moderators control things like how rules work (simply to offload work to other capable people)
4 - Bring back utilities such as Popular Threads & Rules
With these changes, I believe Garry and Hezzy would see a massive decrease in complaints.
I don't know if this is that necessary.
Yeah I'd definitely prioritize videos over fast threads
Fast threads only had 2 rules. Post your or ask questions with the exception to it also being the only approved home for WAYT.
Now had you nuked FT and moved the threads to General every thread that was in there is now breaking every rule in General.
FT also helped kept shit quality posting away from places where you ARE expected to post to a much better standard.
IMO FT had its place but under these changes it was a little redundant to keep it around.
I liked fast threads but I loved videos
I'm posting in threads more that they're shifted into general
but videos...
https://cdn.frankerfacez.com/emoticon/129745/2
Does the general forum even have any "De Jure" rules right now?
can we just make a videos megathread
It will lmao pics 2
without the pics and the lmao
To be honest, I can't remember the last time I actually "LMAO"-ed from anything in there.
I don't think I would like to browse a thread with potentially 30 separate video embeds.
Plus if someone posts a single controversial video the entire thread is going to derail.
Did we not already have a video megathread that got buried?
Is the trans general thread gone now?
@garry what's the point of removing Videos section, Fast Threads and Schdinler's Fist but not removing OIFY or GMF? You would really rather have people post shock images and complete shitposts than have people post videos and such?
"Merges three thread sections into one"
"Keeps the threads per page at 50, a thread completely dies if it goes off the main page, and keep threads at 1,000 posts max"
General is a fucking shitshow now, incredible how garry cannot find a middle ground solution and constantly flip flops from one extreme to another, then he wonders why people dont like the decisions he makes.
I also don't at all comprehend the logic behind merging oify and Schindler's fist. I had to see a cut up body in a porn thread the other day as a bunch of posters shat all over them
There's significantly less porn and more spam after the merge
I miss Schindler's Fist, I didn't go in there, but I appreciated the pun.
damn i missed out
I can remove those too if it'll make you feel better?
I think what most people are getting at is that they would prefer videos (and in some cases fast threads) back because the consolidation of them into general has made it a bit of a mess. I can't even use it anymore since the change.
I appreciate that through all this, you still have your sense of humor.
Please don't kill us
Please do, that'll pwn me real hard
No, from what I've seen, the popular opinion is no more removals, and re-adding Videos as it was one of (if not the) most populated sections. I think some people have asked for re-adding the Developer subforums, but I don't frequent that section so idk.
The FT merge was good, Fast Threads existing was actually making the rules harder to understand, it was one of the confusing things about your request to have people making more small threads (aka "wouldn't that go into FT?")
As a rule of thumb in most places and internet discussions:
It is not alright to use the word "nigger" to refer to someone.
It's usually ok to use the word "nigger" in contexts such as quoting history or fiction (Eg: Huckleberry Finn). But you shouldn't wildly be throwing it around out loud.
If you are uncertain then just type something like "N-word" or "N*****".
typical response - ignore literally dozens of posts that explain in clear, concise, and reasonable terms why the changes are a net negative, respond to the one post that doesn't fit your exact narrative. nothing we say is ever going to be good enough for you man
I think this is actually something worth looking into.
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