• In case you're wondering what the fuck is going on with facepunch (recap thread)
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It's so insane to me that anyone would ever suggest Reddit for longform discussion. I cannot possibly tell what would lead someone to believe this is a good place for discussion. It's a bad place for anything. It's not a good place for something funny because the most upvoted, and therefore visible content is homogenized bullshit that's designed to appeal to people who are dumb as hell. Nobody ever hears anything that's contrary to their own stance because the most upvoted stuff is what people already believe, and anything people disagree with is downvoted so as to be hidden from view. The moderators are absolutely insane and delete things with a hairtrigger, it cannot be understated how bad of an idea it is that most dinky subreddits have like 10 moderators and seemingly every comment stack has at least one reply deleted by a moderator. Forums are old, and they're old because they've stood the test of time. Forums have a topic, and the topic is kept alive by people's willingness to respond to it. The discussion is in a linear format that makes it coherent for an ongoing discussion so you can see arguments and discussions evolve. "Voting systems" don't hide peoples comments from sight and each person is granted the same amount of legibility without mob choice voting influencing people's views on posts. It's just a fucking common sense layout that was made by someone who was just trying to create a simple legible format, and it worked. You can't fix perfect so the only logical steps after that have been silicon valley ventures like facebook and crap that're designed to prey on mental weaknesses like seeking UPBOATS, retweets and bullshit like that, and they've sacrificed legibility completely in favor of it. To not only suggest having a traditional forum is pointless, but to suggest that these content curated shitholes are what people should "mature" into is so frustrating it's making me blue in the face
again, not people, but the people. if garrys mod was some obscure thing then people wouldn't be making mods for it and it wouldnt be worth a dime.
I can say for certain Garry is wrong about this forum not contributing to his company's bottom line, because I'll be damned if I'm buying any future Facepunch titles if this forum goes.
This was a rhetorical question... I was not being serious and it was meant to illustrate how insane it is that someone wouldn't immediately ask themselves why people use this forum when other forums exist, and would just immediately jump to the conclusion that Facepunch is pointless.
I used to be big into graphic design and web design and i was apart of createblog forum and it felt like a sort of family there too but it died. {Myspace and Livejournal era // Thats how long ago that was} and I STILL talk to atleast 2 people from there and have them in my close social media circle. that forum site is still up but its a ghost town and full of spam bots because they couldnt give it to anyone to manage for whatever reason. everyones work is still up there too. its a shame and its sad. i was apart of another forum when i was 12 but that became a ghost town as well... i dont want to see that happen here
I legitimately think Garry has never been to reddit. And I'm not joking. I'm fully serious. So many of his decisions have been based 'around reddit'. Despite the fact that the only reason reddit works is because of the amount of users that use the site. Do you want to know why so many communities based on niche subjects thrive on Reddit? That's because 1.6 BILLION users have used Reddit this year alone. Also Reddit does not support longform discussion in any way which straight up removes any doubt that he doesn't know how reddit works.
oh shit i was a cb member remember how jusun just fucking vanished off the face of the earth
W H A T Hiiiii ^___^ also yes -__- The world is truly ending my dear. I kinda want to link my account now
You know, I met some of my best friends here. For nearly 7 years of my life, they and others from here were there for me when I needed them. When I needed a good chuckle, the threads were always here to poke at. When I need advice for something, I can be sure there's at least some sliver of a thread here with folks who can answer it. When I want to know what's going on in the world, there's the depressing politics and news nodes. I discovered all kinds of awesome stuff here, and I owe so much of my life to this forum. Frankly, it breaks my heart to see it being viewed so coldly by it's creator. I don't think I could ever call another forum home. This place is my homepage. I view it constantly, at work, at home, in bed, just to see what's happening. When my heart was broken, there were folks here to help pick me up. To this day, I'm happy to call this community my own, even if I've had some falling outs. I don't know what I would do without good old facepunch. it's not big. It's got doofuses trying to advertise their rust servers or farm boxes. It's admins make their asses into memes, and ban folks over cats and crummy art. But over the years, I feel that's kind of what makes this place great. It's home. I'm home. Please don't tear down my home. I guess if we are going to be torn down, I may as well expend the last few days we have to give a completely unrelated apology to a certain someone who knows who I am. Those years we spent together were great, even if we wound up getting so hostile at each other that we affected our well-being. Not a day goes by that I don't miss you and the group. The comfy sunday nights. The jokes and fun. I know I goofed up bad over those years. It's okay. You don't have to forgive me. I guess if this place is going to dust, I may as well just say I'm sorry. I miss you buddy. You know who you are.
This is so true. @garry ive been here for a few years, had alt’s etc. But that’s the special thing about facepunch. It aint perfect, but it’s so special to a lot of people. the community is so unique, and shouldn’t be thrown away. because once this place is gone, I don’t think we’ll ever have anything like this again.
At this point, I think we should just drag ol' yeller behind the shed and put two between it's eyes.
I'd be devastated if this forum shut down. While I spend more time lurking than actually posting, I've been using this forum near daily since I first joined back in 2011, and there's been a lot of people I've met or at least recognized elsewhere cus of this place, and they've all been really cool dudes. This place is so different from something like Discord and Reddit, and that's in a good way as those places can be chaotic, and while FP can be like that at times, it still generally feels a lot nicer to actually talk and discuss in compared to the circlejerks in Reddit and over all shitposting in Discord. If having a "home" on the internet could be considered a thing, it'd absolutely be this website for me.
It's hard to take the appreciation bit serious when the person in question is known for going out of his way to spite people. https://i.imgur.com/8jsEdRc.png Do what you want, Garry. It's your forum and entirely up to you. Even if I don't agree with everything you do I appreciate the effort that goes into this place. I'm just disappointed that it's coming down to we gotta love everything you do no matter what or you'll burn the house down.
"lets gut the forums and wane away half of the community" "no, gary no" "Let's port everything over to a half-functioning forum layout by surprise" "no, gary no" "Let's make threads cap at a thousand posts" "no, gary no" "Welp people dont seem to appreciate everything I've done for them, I just dont know what went wr-...Wait a minute, why the fuck do i care about this place lol by losers" "no, gary no" I'd ask when would this end, but I feel like we got a terrible answer. It's honestly scary how little he seems to care, judging by the posts. Remember how he showed how little he cared around early 2015? It's like that, but what he posted earlier just seems more antipathic towards a community he is primarily responsible for fostering.
It just keeps running through my head. I know it is your forum Garry. But holy shit that reeks of petulance. You can't deal with criticism like that. Dropping objectively bad forum changes and then following up posts with your version of "Fuck you, deal with it" when people criticize it, then having the gall to say "no one appreciates me" is so utterly ridiculous that it feels like a joke. Taking zero feedback and then ignoring everyone telling you no, then getting upset when people don't like it is something a child would do. This is like you owning a pool, then periodically just... shitting in the pool and laughing at people to 'deal with it, it's a good change, you are wrong', then getting upset when people hate it.
i really dont want to link my account its like a time capsule of shitposts and dead memes
I'll buy it for $5 and half a burrito, and I'll host it on a toaster. Toastpunch.
I'm coming up on 10 years posting here. Gmod and the screenshot section were a launchpad into my digital arts experience. Ivan's Secrets and Tales from the Galactopticon were the first steps for my career in game development. I owe so much of my life to FP, I'd be devastated to see it go.
lmao wonderful news /s. I have no other way to respond to this other than laughing. This is so pants on head stupid. I use facepunch for filtering through unfunny/politically charged memes (LMAO pics) as well as a filtered video feed for youtube instead of subcribing because I get introduced to new and unique videos/content creators. Without facepunch I wouldn't be anywhere where I am today in terms of content and quality for wacky meme pictures and interesting or silly videos. The fact its all fucked up because Garry went into full ego-psychosis mode is just stupid. Yes this has happened before but this is insanity. @garry If you kill these forums you will have single handedly lost a huge chunk of your original supporters as well as a ton of respect from a lot of people. Prove us wrong. Prove to each and everyone one of us here you're not a self absorbed asshole on a power trip by just listening to the criticism we have. You're smart as hell, but you sure are being absolutely stupid right now. The moment these forums go down is the moment I, and as many other users have said will completely lose interest in everything you do. On top of this, we will lose a huge part of our selves. We appreciate the work you do when it's done right and not based upon in the moment emotion. For once in your fucking life Garry just think why we're saying what we are and please fucking listen to us.
Wasn't it held together with chicken wire and duct tape and nobody could make any changes to the forums because they lost the password completely?
You're writing fan fiction right now.
honestly it just makes me angry that one day I'll wake up and the forums that ive been a part of for a while (since I had another account before this when I was an idiot kid) will probably be gone, because of an out of touch old man who hasn't been involved in years, who constantly pushes stupid shit on people and then gets upset when said people complain, doesn't constantly directly 'gain anything' from it reddit is awful for any sort of longform discussion because of its layout and upvote hierarchy, it's only useful for game related news facepunch is perfectly fine and relevant where it is tbh, it was pretty healthy pre-redo, not everything needs to be as popular as reddit, you don't need to 'evolve it' into something 'modern' or 'different' or 'new' I made pretty much all my friends on here, and while almost none of them have lasted, its been a big experience and just frustrates me that it's been going downhill
Guys I've been lurking and occasionally posting since 2005. This forum has gone through a bunch of crazy ass changes over the years and this probably won't be the last time. I highly doubt he's going to shut Facepunch down. Garry is just talking shit like he always does.
https://my.mixtape.moe/seynpz.png Wow he really just does not care. I guess it was nice knowing everyone. Guess we just have to deal with reddit and 4chan now.
We... We literally have the threads and posts to prove it. Every time he would make a change he would post his insane reasoning behind it (usually to "make discussions more flowing" or "to encourage more conversations". Then people would give legitimate criticism, and he would then post a "Fuck you, I know better than you" post and then ignore all follow up posts. This happened every time. Every. Time. The meta section was almost always full of this. You can't say this didn't happen, the threads existed, his posts of being a child existed. This exact same structure of his embarrassing response of "Fuck you" then disappearing from a thread happened with this very event.
I mean I'm probably biased from having worked for his company but I do believe he knows better than 99% of the people on here (me included). I can see where he's coming from on this.
HOW, exactly like literally how does nuking the videos section make any sense
this is incredibly rich coming from you lol also with the dwindling userbase I saw this coming a mile away - newpunch was the beginning of the end, and it just collapses from here.
Even if he didn't the change to fast threads, videos, and general all being one section is nothing short of a tantrum. He's genuinely cutting off his nose to spite his face, else he's either immensely inept to think that's a good change, or just trying to stir up anger to somehow justify that people don't like anything he does.
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