Eh, you get used to it. Spent most of my life w/o friends, it'll just be back to the status quo for me as FP dies, discord servers decay, and my irl friends who have moved away stop responding.
Just gotta learn not to spend the time damn near ripping your cock off, else you won't be able to wank for a few days
Maybe we can talk to @Silverlan and Ignacio about having Knockout be an official outlet for Pragma. It's by design very much a Garry's Mod like, but on an entirely original engine that Silverlan has full control over. That way, if Garry / Facepunch don't want to use a forum they have no control over for an official outlet for their products (which is totally understandable), Knockout will still at least have something.
And no I am never going to stop shilling Pragma. I genuinely think it's a great thing, and I have huge respect for Silverlan for spending the long years working on it by himself.
Be seeing you. Genkaz.
In regards to what people are thinking KO's "niche" should be for attracting new users - I see Facepunch forums and look at all kinds of creative talent, such as the "What Are You Working On" threads, the TF2 Emproium, GMod content, etc.
Why not make K.O. be based around digital creative content promotion?
that was my idea, with a particular focus on gamedev (like pragma and sandboxes)
I just want somewhere to post gmod/sfm "art" and foster it into a community to keep it going
The gmod devs have carried on their work and i'm glad, they're good people but with the Facepunch forums
(where most of us gmodders found by seeing the logo upon starting the game, finding the site and then finding people doing art)
removing the gmod screenshot section and then kinda just sitting there
idk its gone now. we've got hardly any new people.
For some reason a load of South Koreans got started last year but thats it.
Knockout won't do that for us. No offence, don't even mean that as a criticism.
Just wish there was somewhere eles to go.
Fuck deviantart though lmao its all splatoon blueberry fetish
The homepage doesn't reflect it yet, but there are plans to showcase member creations, be that graphic design, software, music, you name it.
We will be implementing private messages again, with limited group chat support so it will make organising things in private a little easier.
Now would you just look at this good community interaction with the devs/leadership.
as a 6'er tbf this place is a snail of the community it once was. Maybe it's time to let it die
the community is still pretty big imo, not too small but not too big either so that there’s so many posts you can’t remember any individual posters
Plus, there is still plenty of opportunities to revitalise the forum.
As an 07'er, I'll hold on as long as I damn well please. There are very many reasons for me to continue being a member of this community, and very few reasons to not try whatever I can to keep it alive. I'm 100% not getting stuck in the void of Discords, Subreddits and FB Groups by my own choice. Fuck that noise.
4chan for shitposting
facepunch for talking about video games
Honestly this thread just enhances my belief that discord is fucking cursed and you shouldn't use it due to it's ability to cause drama.
That aside, holy shit during the early half of this thread it felt like people wanted the mods to be perfect "can't do any wrong" machines despite the fact it's completely impossible.
the internet is for shitposting
There were some valid complaints among the drama though.
I agree but with how many times "coup" and shit like that came up I was starting to wonder if Hanlon's Razor was starting to blunt a bit.
none of this would've happened if we just modded Firerain
if only firerain and TH89 was here to stop all this madness...
I'd like to throw out there that my arguments weren't under the pretense of there having been a coup, that's stupid. My arguments came more from just the attitude of some of the mods and how they handle themselves. The "coup" was a hilariously bad misstep that they've owned up to, nothing more.
How do you owe up to something that never happened??????
the death of facepunch will be marred by memes where people compare moving over to a new web domain to a violent overthrowing of a government
I would like facepunch to stick around so I can just sit on my giant coin hoard like a dragon
So, I've just read the entire thread. oh boy.
I don't need to reiterate what has already been said. Garry needs to set an end date for the forum - I'd rather FP died a noble death than continue to watch the community disappear and fragment into nothingness through infighting and stagnation.
I am unsure how I feel about FP itself directly endorsing KO from the front page or whatnot. If the only way to get users to join KO is by handholding them straight from FP then you've not solved the underlying issues that FP is suffering from.
Planning your steps and encouraging users to move there is OK, but doing it with a heavy hand locking the official discord and plastering stickies everywhere - essentially exploiting individuals elevated privileges - I'm not so sure. I don't think it was a coup per se, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a tad shambolic.
I'll be sad to see FP go, both the forums and community. I don't post often as I either have shit patter or regurgitate what already exists in a thread. The community is not what it once was, this thread alone is a symptom of that, but that didn't stop me from feeling isolated and alone when the azure servers had a stroke.
It's clear to me that the only way KO can succeed is to make it something people want to join and be a part of, rather than being the community's life support.
also unironically bring back smartness and instaban words #stickitinherpooper
oh my god shut the fuck up
Everyone involved said it was really poorly executed and apologised, owning up to you. Try reading the posts instead of scrambling to throw out epic zingers.
is garry gonna come back to this thread or is he going to just chat shit and incite probably the longest and worst thread in recent memory and then never follow up
then in six months he's gonna sticky another thread with the same dumb shit and we're gonna ride mr. bones wild ride forever here.
Everyone is being hung out dry for 11+ months of this already, none of you deserve that. Meanwhile a good few of our own did something about it.
Maybe this is more our choice. not garry's.
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