[QUOTE=areolop;32723722]Thats like having an ankle bracelet for the rest of your life.
Dude, stay in school. People dont joke when they say that. My mom has a 4-year degree and makes 70k a year while my dad who just has a GED makes under 20k.[/QUOTE]
Can you give me anything more than your father's salary?
"musician of some sort" ok go for it
[QUOTE=pdp;32723746]Can you give me anything more than your father's salary?[/QUOTE]
He doesnt like his job. He regrets not going to college. He [I]wanted[/I] to be a DNR Ranger, he is now a technician on an assembly line.
[QUOTE=Scientastic;32723740]Your past 11 years of education will have been for nothing, essentially. I was in your boat when I was 17 and trying to leave home. I changed my mind. Don't give up, especially being a junior![/QUOTE]
I already feel as if it was time wasted. I've always had the opinion of school that I do now. The only difference is that now, I'm taken more seriously because I'm 16.
Dont just take it from people on the internet, go ask some bums on the road, go ask doctors, go ask police officers, go ask [B] musicians[/B]
[QUOTE=areolop;32723766]He doesnt like his job. He regrets not going to college. He [I]wanted[/I] to be a DNR Ranger, he is now a technician on an assembly line.[/QUOTE]
Does that apply to [I]everybody ever[/I] that has a GED? Probably not. Individuality is a major factor for things like this.
[quote]GED is mistakenly thought to be an equivalency diploma by many people. In fact, it is not an equivalent. GED stands for General Education Development. It is a certificate issued to those who pass the exam, showing that they have at least a basic ability [/quote]
[url=http://www.essortment.com/education-articles-high-school-diploma-vs-ged-real-world-39897.html]Source[/url]
Stay in school, at least you had the opportunity to go, unlike millions who would kill for your spot in that school.
[QUOTE=imptastick;32723800][url=http://www.essortment.com/education-articles-high-school-diploma-vs-ged-real-world-39897.html]Source[/url][/QUOTE]
No shit. I can do it too.
[quote]Most colleges and employers accept a GED credential as being equivalent to a high school diploma. Each year more than 18,000 Washington residents earn their GED credentials.[/quote]
[URL="http://www.sbctc.edu/public/y_ged.aspx"]Source[/URL]
[QUOTE=pdp;32723783]Does that apply to [I]everybody ever[/I] that has a GED? Probably not. Individuality is a major factor for things like this.[/QUOTE]
My fiance ended up getting his GED at 19 after being denied his high school diploma through home school. He still regrets being forced to get a GED to this day.
My father has a GED. He spends his days at his ex-wife's mother's house earning disability checks.
Shall I continue?
There's a negative association attached to GED's, and you really don't want one regardless. Dropping out can screw you up, even if you wind up having a great job afterwards. Nobody wants to hire kids right now, not even young adults. You're not getting a leg-up at all. I'm doing a gap year after graduating from high school and after 4 months of doing virtually nothing, I feel like crap. You [i]really[/i] don't want to drop out! I regret my [i]gap year[/i], imagine how you'll feel.
Also I should point out that you can still be successful with a GED you just have to work that much harder. I am not trying to make you mad just trying to inform you that it may make things harder for you in the long run.
[QUOTE=imptastick;32723839]Also I should point out that you can still be successful with a GED you just have to work that much harder. I am not trying to make you mad just trying to inform you that it may make things harder for you in the long run.[/QUOTE]
hes going to be a musician of some sort though so diploma or ged doesnt really matter.
[QUOTE=Scientastic;32723833]My fiance ended up getting his GED at 19 after being denied his high school diploma through home school. He still regrets being forced to get a GED to this day.
My father has a GED. He spends his days at his ex-wife's mother's house earning disability checks.
Shall I continue?
There's a negative association attached to GED's, [b]and you really don't want one regardless.[/b] [b]Dropping out can screw you up, even if you wind up having a great job afterwards.[/b] Nobody wants to hire kids right now, not even young adults. You're not getting a leg-up at all. I'm doing a gap year after graduating from high school and after 4 months of doing virtually nothing, I feel like crap. You [i]really[/i] don't want to drop out! I regret my [i]gap year[/i], imagine how you'll feel.[/QUOTE]
I do want to drop out. Like I said, individuality is a major factor here. What isn't pleasurable to you may be pleasurable to me, and if I have a great job after dropping out, what's the problem? How can it screw me up? Just because some of your family members are struggling doesn't mean that I will.
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=wlitsots;32723853]hes going to be a musician of some sort though so diploma or ged doesnt really matter.[/QUOTE]
If you're trying to be sarcastic, you failed, because that's really kind of the case with a lot of musicians.
[QUOTE=pdp;32723862]I do want to drop out. Like I said, individuality is a major factor here. What isn't pleasurable to you may be pleasurable to me, and if I have a great job after dropping out, what's the problem? How can it screw me up? Just because some of your family members are struggling doesn't mean that I will.[/QUOTE]
I should have mentioned that said 'great job' won't come to you as easily as someone who went through high school and earned their diploma.
You may want to drop out now, but I can guarantee you will regret it one year later. If you want to leave high school, what is your motivation to pursue a college education? What would your long-term goals be?
[QUOTE=wlitsots;32723853]hes going to be a musician of some sort though so diploma or ged doesnt really matter.[/QUOTE]
Realistically most musicians have to supplement their income by other means, Yes you can succeed without a diploma, but it is harder and quite frankly I fear he will find a career based on minimum entrance levels even more boring and imprisoning than high school
[QUOTE=Scientastic;32723887]I should have mentioned that said 'great job' won't come to you as easily as someone who went through high school and earned their diploma.
You may want to drop out now, but I can guarantee you will regret it one year later. If you want to leave high school, what is your motivation to pursue a college education? What would your long-term goals be?[/QUOTE]
My long-term goals are irrelevant, but if you must know, I want to pursue a career in music. Like I said earlier, I would be completely satisfied with a job that most people deem as mediocre, as long as I could pursue music in my free time. How do you know that I will regret dropping out? You know nothing about my personality.
[QUOTE=pdp;32723914]My long-term goals are irrelevant, but if you must know, I want to pursue a career in music. Like I said earlier, I would be completely satisfied with a job that most people deem as mediocre, as long as I could pursue music in my free time. How do you know that I will regret dropping out? You know nothing about my personality.[/QUOTE]
I have worked mediocre jobs, and I can tell you that after a year or two of being looked down on by others you start to hate it.
also long-term goals are NEVER irrelevant when deciding on something that can completely change your future
[QUOTE=imptastick;32723931]I have worked mediocre jobs, and I can tell you that after a year or two of being looked down on by others you start to hate it.[/QUOTE]
I might or might not hate it. Just because you did, doesn't mean that I will. Even if I do hate it, it will have purpose. I will be there to make money. When I ask myself why I am working, I can answer myself. I can't do that at school.
[QUOTE=pdp;32723942]I might or might not hate it. Just because you did, doesn't mean that I will. Even if I do hate it, it will have purpose. I will be there to make money. When I ask myself why I am working, I can answer myself. I can't do that at school.[/QUOTE]
school does have a purpose, believe me it opens doors for you that you would not believe
[QUOTE=imptastick;32723962]school does have a purpose, believe me it opens doors for you that you would not believe[/QUOTE]
Like what?
[QUOTE=pdp;32723914]My long-term goals are irrelevant, but if you must know, I want to pursue a career in music. Like I said earlier, I would be completely satisfied with a job that most people deem as mediocre, as long as I could pursue music in my free time. How do you know that I will regret dropping out? You know nothing about my personality.[/QUOTE]
I assumed you were a typical 16 year old, yearning to drop out because hey, you're 16, and school sucks.
If you want to work at Wal-Mart and pursue your music career whenever you're not sleeping, go ahead and get your GED and work towards that. Nobody's stopping you.
[QUOTE=pdp;32723967]Like what?[/QUOTE]
1. Money
2. Support for your family
3. Respect
4. Security
5. better more enjoyable careers
If you want to be realistic about everything, you should know that professional musicians are those who have either had years of specialty/professional training or have started from a very early age. I'm talking like 6 years old and earlier. You should try and identify what it is you like about music, and take that into consideration when thinking about different careers.
When I was younger, I had my mind set on being a video game programmer, but as I got older I noticed that programming wasn't something that came easy to me. So I realized what I liked problem solving and I like learning lots of new things, and I figured that law would be a good career choice for me, so now I am planning on majoring in political science with a future in law.
A GED not only means that for some reason you were unable to finish the basic institution that is high school, it also means that you lack most of the knowledge you would have learned in high school. You should stay in school for a year and a half more and be on a much better track than being a high school drop out.
Listen, even if you dont listen to us and you do drop out..
I want you to know something. I, only being 17 and being a junior in high school, believe that if we live in a country that hands us an education for what we are interested in, we should take it without question. Millions of people in other countries try to go to school in the US just to get a great education while you're here telling us that in the land of opportunity, you are going to deny it. So what if you want to become a musician.. but do you know how much math, science, and economics are involved in that? You could major in Musical Science and develop new instruments or just better the ones we have now. You could go down a route like many others did and have failed or, you can make a name for yourself. Through your personality, your connections, and your deeds.
I (like said before) am majoring in Criminal Justice (Police Officer) and math and science are not used greatly, you still have to take classes of it because it is considered common sense. (ie. What do you breath? O2) I dont like taking the classes but, I do them anyway. I dont want to go to school (like you) but, I do. Because I know that to make it anywhere in this god-forsaken world you got to have a degree. Weather it be a BS, BA, or just a Tech degree.
You are free to make your mind up as you please but, I dont want to hear about you making a thread called "My life is a shitter, and this is why".
[QUOTE=pdp;32723862]I do want to drop out. Like I said, individuality is a major factor here. What isn't pleasurable to you may be pleasurable to me, and if I have a great job after dropping out, what's the problem? How can it screw me up? Just because some of your family members are struggling doesn't mean that I will.
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
If you're trying to be sarcastic, you failed, because that's really kind of the case with a lot of musicians.[/QUOTE]
"you are not those musicians"
"just because those musicians are finding success doesn't mean that you will"
seriously if you feel like you can't succeed in school for whatever reason then drop out and go pursue your music career. just know that neither will guarantee success, just know that by staying in school you probably have the higher chance to being successful. but judging by your posts you really don't want to be in school and have already decided to drop out. with that mindset you won't do well in school at all.
just stick with it, I hated high school too. but I assure you, college is WAY better.
Anyway I wish you the best of luck no matter which path you choose, although I hope you listen to the people telling you to stick with it, there is a reason why the majority do.
You should drop out and make way for people who will actually contribute to society.
[QUOTE=cloud_strife;32724218]You should drop out and make way for people who will actually contribute to society.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2011/07/glenn-beck-norway-massacre-hitler-youth.jpg[/img]
For every person that doesn't go to college, my degree looks [I]that[/I] much better.
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