[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32738599]So how are those computer classes? In my experience every computer class ever is a complete crock of shit. But maybe that's just because I live in public-school-underfunded Alabama.
Fun fact: we have a Business Tech Applications (computer class) that doesn't have any computers: not one.[/QUOTE]
Almost every public school is hurting, I took Horticulture my senior year and all we did was manual labor around the school (fixing sidewalks, removing dead trees, painting hallways, etc.) so they did not have to hire workers
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32737317]Good lord, why are people agreeing with the OP
I'm just so amazed that people can hate high school so much. Get in good fucking classes (AP Physics, AP biology, AP calculus) and learn shit.
It's probably social stuff you have problems with anyway.[/QUOTE]
tell me what musician needs to have the things taught in AP Physics, Biology, and Calculus
Don't ditch school unless you wanna be a scrub for the rest of your life.
[QUOTE=K3inMitl3id;32739721]Don't ditch school unless you wanna be a scrub for the rest of your life.[/QUOTE]
i'm 2 [img]http://forums.thebestgamers.net/Smileys/fantasticsmileys/cool2.gif[/img] 4 sk0ol scrub
[QUOTE=pdp;32739674]tell me what musician needs to have the things taught in AP Physics, Biology, and Calculus[/QUOTE]
How else will you learn about sound, the structure of the ear and figure out the area under a legato?
Information you learn might just help you out in other classes. It's actually really crazy how much use I've gotten out of the stuff I'm learning in AP bio. Also if possible try to get into honors english, you might learn something useful.
If you already have something lined up for you, drop out. If you dont, stay in.
By all means you dont have to listen to anyone on here that tells you what you should do, but take into account that almost every post about the GED has been overwhelmingly negative, and the people know with them seem to only be stuck in low-paying dead end jobs.
Also, yes you might think that because you want to be a musician then its fine because you don't need grades, well if you had a sudden change of heart or realized it wasn't what you actually wanted to do (Which is actually quite common around 17/18/19), then you will regret it in the long run. Also the more you know, the better, period...You become a much more intelligent and interesting person through learning even if it isn't related to your subject of interest, and it gives you more places to draw inspiration from.
Do you actually produce any music right now?
[QUOTE=pdp;32739674]tell me what musician needs to have the things taught in AP Physics, Biology, and Calculus[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but this post screams 'I will be a successful musician due to this decision I am going to make, screw learning forever.' Refusing to acknowledge anyone's advice without shooting it down immediately doesn't help.
You can't rely on "being a musician" and minimum wage jobs to pay your bills. It doesn't matter if you don't take the AP path (personally, I chose to take AP classes but didn't take the exams due to their cost), having knowledge of something other than music will prove to be useful at some point in your life. You're probably going to want to pursue some sort of higher education in the future to further whatever you ultimately end up going to school for (you're 16, things [b]will[/b] change). I'm sorry, but in college, you need to take math, science, and english classes. Taking AP courses can give you a leg up, and taking the regular courses are mandatory to your high school education (with the exception of calculus if your school requires algebra II or pre-calc instead) and will prepare you for college courses.
Unless you're in a band and you already have high-paying gigs going for you, stop thinking about dropping out. It won't help you at all, and the decision in itself is ultimately a cop-out that will affect others' impressions of you later on in life. Unless there are serious emotional/mental problems that prevent you from succeeding in school ('I hate school and dread going to it every morning, it makes me so miserable' is not a problem), stay put.
[QUOTE=Salsa;32723333]getting a GED, although it's obviously much faster, is actually more difficult than getting a highschool diploma
in your situation I would personally stick with highschool and find a hobby or another way to deal with the stress/depression[/QUOTE]
believe me, as someone who has taken the GED, it is ALOT fucking easier
[QUOTE=Jabberwocky;32740744]How else will you learn about sound, the structure of the ear and figure out the area under a legato?[/QUOTE]
The internet? I don't need an entire year-long course for things like that.
[editline]12th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lilolia;32741712]Do you actually produce any music right now?[/QUOTE]
Some. I'm not that good, but I am hoping to produce quality music by the time I'm in my 20s. I think 4+ years of experience should be plenty for that.
Even if I change my mind of what I want to do, I still can't see any practical use for AP classes like Physics, Biology, and the like. Everybody seems to say "just open up and learn for once." Why should I change myself to learn what is being taught? Maybe the school should change what is being taught so I don't have to change my interests and pretend to be interested in something I'm not.
[QUOTE=pdp;32743413]The internet? I don't need an entire year-long course for things like that.
[editline]12th October 2011[/editline]
Some. I'm not that good, but I am hoping to produce quality music by the time I'm in my 20s. I think 4+ years of experience should be plenty for that.
Even if I change my mind of what I want to do, I still can't see any practical use for AP classes like Physics, Biology, and the like. Everybody seems to say "just open up and learn for once." Why should I change myself to learn what is being taught? Maybe the school should change what is being taught so I don't have to change my interests and pretend to be interested in something I'm not.[/QUOTE]
Way to miss everyone's points by questioning AP classes. They can save you money if you choose to go to college, and for those that want to learn more about the subject it's a lot more in-depth. That's about it.
By the sound of your post you really don't have a good reason to drop out of school. You're better off honing your skills while you're still in school.
Really? Change what's being taught? Okay, let the school board know you don't feel like expanding your horizons and that they should totally stop teaching biology because it's [i]boooooring.[/i]
Stay in school. Try to consider everyone's advice instead of blowing it all off as useless.
what the fuck does he need biology for if he's just going to graze by with a D average and forget it later on in his adult years?
honestly, public school system is a load of shit. half the kids that don't pay attention get diagnosed with ADHD or ADD when the reality of the situation is that they just don't care or give a fuck enough to put effort into cramming whatever it is on the blackboard into their skulls.
i'd rather be a wild cocaine addict that's crazy as shit and shreds on a guitar like a demigod than a zombie who equates that money = happiness
[QUOTE=Moose;32743686]what the fuck does he need biology for if he's just going to graze by with a D average and forget it later on in his adult years?
honestly, public school system is a load of shit. half the kids that don't pay attention get diagnosed with ADHD or ADD when the reality of the situation is that they just don't care or give a fuck enough to put effort into cramming whatever it is on the blackboard into their skulls.
i'd rather be a wild cocaine addict that's crazy as shit and shreds on a guitar like a demigod than a zombie who equates that money = happiness[/QUOTE]
Yes, learning biology just to forget it later is pretty stupid, but it allows you to get a high school diploma. Some people also like learning about a variety of subjects so they can find which career they want to pursue. And money doesn't necessarily equal happiness, but it definitely makes life a lot less stressful and gives you more opportunities for happiness. In this guys case, at least a high school diploma is also good to have something to fall back on just incase his music career never takes off. If he only wants slightly more than minimum wage, he can go ahead and get a GED, but he's gonna be living paycheck to paycheck and it's gonna suck.
[QUOTE=Moose;32743686]what the fuck does he need biology for if he's just going to graze by with a D average and forget it later on in his adult years?
honestly, public school system is a load of shit. half the kids that don't pay attention get diagnosed with ADHD or ADD when the reality of the situation is that they just don't care or give a fuck enough to put effort into cramming whatever it is on the blackboard into their skulls.
i'd rather be a wild cocaine addict that's crazy as shit and shreds on a guitar like a demigod than a zombie who equates that money = happiness[/QUOTE]
I think you will find more famous rock stars concerned with money and material things than famous biologists
[QUOTE=K3inMitl3id;32743904]Yes, learning biology just to forget it later is pretty stupid, but it allows you to get a high school diploma. Some people also like learning about a variety of subjects so they can find which career they want to pursue. And money doesn't necessarily equal happiness, but it definitely makes life a lot less stressful and gives you more opportunities for happiness. In this guys case, at least a high school diploma is also good to have something to fall back on just incase his music career never takes off. If he only wants slightly more than minimum wage, he can go ahead and get a GED, but he's gonna be living paycheck to paycheck and it's gonna suck.[/QUOTE]
you can go to community college with a GED or a diploma
trust me, a guy with a highschool diploma is going to make just as much as a guy with a GED unless he goes to college
Getting back into education again after you went to school and left for work is very difficult
Aside from that fact that stuff gets more specific after you go to college and is more to your liking if you choose the right study
[QUOTE=Scientastic;32742063](personally, I chose to take AP classes but didn't take the exams due to their cost)[/QUOTE]
In my state, Alabama, or at least at this school, we're getting the AP exam fees (for math, science, English, but NOT history) paid for us, and for each exam we pass (3 or higher) we get $100 check.
I'll be getting $200 in the next few weeks, hopefully, for my AP Biology and AP Environmental Science exams I got 5s on last year. (I only took the AP Bio class)
From your comments in this thread it's really obvious you're against staying in High School. If you feel strongly about getting out as soon as possible, then go for it.
I'll just leave my two-cents by saying that acting on impulse is almost never the right decision.
[QUOTE=Scientastic;32743569]Way to miss everyone's points by questioning AP classes. They can save you money if you choose to go to college, and for those that want to learn more about the subject it's a lot more in-depth. That's about it.
Really? Change what's being taught? Okay, let the school board know you don't feel like expanding your horizons and that they should totally stop teaching biology because it's [i]boooooring.[/i][/QUOTE]
I don't want to go to college. And fuck, are you serious? School should be tailored to the person. Not the other way around.
[editline]12th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dirf;32750717]From your comments in this thread it's really obvious you're against staying in High School. If you feel strongly about getting out as soon as possible, then go for it.
I'll just leave my two-cents by saying that acting on impulse is almost never the right decision.[/QUOTE]
My parents changed their mind. I'm probably going to end up doing online schooling, though.
[quote]...Those with a high school diploma or GED could expect to make around $26,000 per year.[/quote]
Source: [url]http://bestonlineuniversities.com/how-much-more-will-you-earn-with-an-online-degree/[/url]
You can hardly live happily on 26k a year.
[QUOTE=henryhendrixx;32751045]Source: [url]http://bestonlineuniversities.com/how-much-more-will-you-earn-with-an-online-degree/[/url]
You can hardly live happily on 26k a year.[/QUOTE]
Or.. for 5 more years of your teen life, you could make and live on 70k+ a year.
[QUOTE=pdp;32750990]I don't want to go to college. And fuck, are you serious? School should be tailored to the person. Not the other way around.
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It should but unfortunately the reality is that you have to bend your interests to fit in. You don't have to stay in school if you don't want to but looking at what you've planned for yourself in the future (or rather the lack of plans) you should probably endure it to the end; even if you don't go to a college. Perhaps you'll figure out something concrete while finishing high school.
High school isn't necessarily about learning specific stuff. Just as important, if not more, is learning how to think and interact with your peers in that sort of environment.
[QUOTE=Jabberwocky;32759131].
High school isn't necessarily about learning specific stuff. Just as important, if not more, is learning how to think and interact with your peers in that sort of environment.[/QUOTE]
Yes, and that is a very very important thing, learning how to interact with others, that's how this world works interaction, and without it you will fail.
[QUOTE=pdp;32723419]As unrealistic as it sounds, I'd like to be a musician of some sort. In the meantime, I'd be content with a job that most people consider mediocre.[/QUOTE]
I hated high school for the most part, but I actually didn't realize what I was doing until my senior year. I had never been in any extra curricular activities, so I tried out for the musical. I made the lead part for my first play ever as The Beast in Beauty and the Beast. Ever since then I brought my grades up and went to a voice teacher over the summer. Went to college at Randolph Macon College for a year and got yet another leading role in their spring musical "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum" as Hero. I didn't like the music program there so I applied to transfer to one of the top schools in the nation, where I am posting this from as a vocal performance major who is currently in rehearsal for an opera "Le Donne Curiose".
People think music is easy (because most of the bands people listen to today don't really have anything to do with the music but a pretty face), but it's really difficult and if you want to make it as a musician, you need to stay in High school and work for your dreams. Everyone hates high school, but those of us who can make it out of there with some sort of education are the ones who will understand why it's mandatory. Dropping out will ruin your life.
OP is the most stubborn little brat i have ever seen on FP. Needs to grow up and mature. IMO, i think he's only doing this to segregate himself away from people because he has no friends and fail in social activities and now he has no one to blame so now wants to complain about his education for wasting his time. STFU and grow up.
OP after he realizes there is no money in music [img]http://www.epicparent.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/dusty.jpg[/img] and only has a High School GED.
Dropouts often have a better chance at getting the job they want. They skip the usless crap and get practical experience.
Dropping out if you have one year to go is just stupid though.
[QUOTE=SkyBlue Crayon;32841858]OP is the most stubborn little brat i have ever seen on FP. Needs to grow up and mature. IMO, i think he's only doing this to segregate himself away from people because he has no friends and fail in social activities and now he has no one to blame so now wants to complain about his education for wasting his time. STFU and grow up.[/QUOTE]
So having a different opinion makes me an immature, stubborn brat? There's this thing called individuality that you should look in to.
[QUOTE=sami-elite;32842529]Dropouts often have a better chance at getting the job they want. They skip the usless crap and get practical experience.
Dropping out if you have one year to go is just stupid though.[/QUOTE]
Now, things may be different over in your country from America. I'd not say that that is the case here.
There's more to music than people think.
I hated hearing people in the halls in high school talking about how they were gonna make it big one day because they could play some chords on guitar or something. When I'd hear "I'm gonna get signed soon, I think. I mean, I'm in a band and we played a birthday party last week," I'd say "take Intro to Guitar or Music Theory or something and you'll be even better" and then they back off because they don't actually want to bother working for it.
I don't know if this is you, OP, but I'm just saying that music is a lot of work with a lot behind it. Just because someone can mix some sounds or play Iron Man on guitar doesn't mean they're hot shit who are going to go somewhere with it.
Unless you plan to be a big time rap artist and have your producer who knows a thing or two about music and music theory autotune you to high heaven and put together your actual music, you should take music classes, which are offered in a lot of high schools, often during [b]senior year[/b]. If they aren't at your school, then they should be.
Jonathan Coulton went to Yale and he was able to create a well-composed song every week for a year. A guy I know who hated high school and was kind of a slacker pushed through and got his degree, and now he's working on a college degree to produce music in the future.
Education's important.
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