I kinda really love the look of the new-to-America Civic Hatchback for this year.
[t]http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2016/11/2017-Honda-Civic-Hatchback-Sport-Touring-rear-three-quarter-08.jpg[/t]
Iunno why, I just do.
[QUOTE=Neoswords123;51924729]I kinda really love the look of the new-to-America Civic Hatchback for this year.
[t]http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2016/11/2017-Honda-Civic-Hatchback-Sport-Touring-rear-three-quarter-08.jpg[/t]
Iunno why, I just do.[/QUOTE]
Not awfully bad from the front, but the rear is an absolute mess. And I have no idea why Honda insists on having back windows cut in half like that. Must have terrible visibility.
[editline]7th March 2017[/editline]
The Alfa Giulietta will always be the most-beautiful hatchback
[t]http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2011-alfa-romeo-giulietta-qv-1750-tbi-3.jpg[/t]
With the Audi S3 Sportback in a close second place
[t]https://audimediacenter-a.akamaihd.net/system/production/media/30224/images/f81e68baac5768d68690893c535fb497094ae97b/A161877_full.jpg?1459862692[/t]
[editline]7th March 2017[/editline]
The S3 is probably too much of a 'wannabe supercar', but the Audi A3 still looks very nice. Thicker tyres and softer suspension mean it's going to actually be comfortable, and the 1.4 CoD engine means it has proper good fuel consumption figures without having to be an ugly Diesel.
[t]http://starmoz.com/images/audi-a3-14-tfsi-cod-2.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=BF;51924784]The Alfa Giulietta will always be the most-beautiful hatchback
[t]http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2011-alfa-romeo-giulietta-qv-1750-tbi-3.jpg[/t]
With the Audi S3 Sportback in a close second place
[t]https://audimediacenter-a.akamaihd.net/system/production/media/30224/images/f81e68baac5768d68690893c535fb497094ae97b/A161877_full.jpg?1459862692[/t][/QUOTE]
Saab 900 (in particular the two doors, and the Aero/SPG)
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/49/fa/19/49fa1960752e43454810de9b109d7c7c.jpg[/t]
[t]http://automobilio.info/auto/Saab-900-I.jpg[/t]
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c0/fb/c1/c0fbc13d90aae6872a8a771f010bae0e.jpg[/t]
[t]http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/800x450/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/c1b45514a544c673750cd74727e93732/Screen-Shot-2013-10-02-at-11.53.21-AM.jpg[/t]
[t]http://zombdrive.com/images/1990-saab-900-3.jpg[/t]
[t]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/2095253827_54f801bb61_b.jpg[/t]
My dad had a Saab 900 in his workshop yesterday and fuck it was the most beautiful car I've seen ever.
It looked like it was brand new, completely clean and spotless, and was a nice shiny black.
I should've taken pictures because it was perfect.
[editline]7th March 2017[/editline]
They're literally the sexiest cars on mountain roads
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptU8SM6hqSc[/media]
[QUOTE=Araknid;51925056]Saab 900 (in particular the two doors, and the Aero/SPG)
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/49/fa/19/49fa1960752e43454810de9b109d7c7c.jpg[/t]
[t]http://automobilio.info/auto/Saab-900-I.jpg[/t]
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c0/fb/c1/c0fbc13d90aae6872a8a771f010bae0e.jpg[/t]
[t]http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/800x450/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/c1b45514a544c673750cd74727e93732/Screen-Shot-2013-10-02-at-11.53.21-AM.jpg[/t]
[t]http://zombdrive.com/images/1990-saab-900-3.jpg[/t]
[t]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/2095253827_54f801bb61_b.jpg[/t]
My dad had a Saab 900 in his workshop yesterday and fuck it was the most beautiful car I've seen ever.
It looked like it was brand new, completely clean and spotless, and was a nice shiny black.
I should've taken pictures because it was perfect.
[editline]7th March 2017[/editline]
They're literally the sexiest cars on mountain roads
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptU8SM6hqSc[/media][/QUOTE]
I'm sorry I just can't like it. It looks like it doesn't know what it wants to be. Does it want to be a hatchback? Shooting brake? Or a coupé? And the proportions make it look like it would be suitable as a 4 door sedan, but it only has two doors (plus rear hatch). The windshield is far too steep for those proportions as well, and three-spoke wheels never looked fashionable.
Let's just say that there's probably a few good reasons for why Saab is dead, while other makers such as Honda, Alfa and Audi are still around today.
[QUOTE=Araknid;51925056]Saab 900 (in particular the two doors, and the Aero/SPG)
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/49/fa/19/49fa1960752e43454810de9b109d7c7c.jpg[/t]
[/QUOTE]
That looks fugly
please set it on fire and end its misery
[QUOTE=tratzzz;51912358]Reminds me of the best part of Initial D: The Suzuki Cappucino
[img]http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Suzuki/classic/Cappuccino_4.jpg[/img]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/WJte5uZ.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Love the Cappucino!
On a similar theme I saw another mini Suzuki parked outside my work today:
[IMG]http://images.honestjohn.co.uk/imagecache/file/width/640/media/6848843/Suzuki~X90~(2).jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.motorstown.com/images/suzuki-x90-08.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=BF;51926246]I'm sorry I just can't like it. It looks like it doesn't know what it wants to be. Does it want to be a hatchback? Shooting brake? Or a coupé? And the proportions make it look like it would be suitable as a 4 door sedan, but it only has two doors (plus rear hatch). The windshield is far too steep for those proportions as well, and three-spoke wheels never looked fashionable.
Let's just say that there's probably a few good reasons for why Saab is dead, while other makers such as Honda, Alfa and Audi are still around today.[/QUOTE]
That's the thing about Saab's though. It's so unique without being completely in your face like supercars.
It mixed different elements into a weird, but reliable package.
[QUOTE=BF;51926246]I'm sorry I just can't like it. It looks like it doesn't know what it wants to be. Does it want to be a hatchback? Shooting brake? Or a coupé? And the proportions make it look like it would be suitable as a 4 door sedan, but it only has two doors (plus rear hatch). The windshield is far too steep for those proportions as well, and three-spoke wheels never looked fashionable.
Let's just say that there's probably a few good reasons for why Saab is dead, while other makers such as Honda, Alfa and Audi are still around today.[/QUOTE]
SAAB died because they cared too much for the satisfaction of the customer rather than mass production and money making. Their cars are some of the safest cars on the road, especially back in the 80s/90s. Even the location of the ignition being inbetween the seats was done with ergonomics and safety in mind. Sit in the car and straight away you put the key in as you go in and your hand is straight away right next to the gear stick/handbrake ready to go. And in the event of a crash, it prevents injuries to the knee where the keys would get jammed into your knee. I've seen no other car company think of that type of shit. When GM bought them out GM wanted them to make shitty cheap mass produced cars on the base of GM models, SAAB basically said fuck that and continued making their own shit.
Their cars are also some of the most enjoyable to drive. I've driven a SAAB 900 and it was the best car I've ever driven.
My dads driven shitloads of SAABs and and he's told me that they're the best cars that he's ever driven. And he's a mechanic so he's driven a fuckload of different cars (luxury mercs, BMWs, even Porsches and that type of shit).
They made SAAB 900s in four door but it doesn't look as nice.
[img]http://motorbase.s3.amazonaws.com/pictures/contributions/991202/std_1981_saab_900_turbo_4_door.jpg_turbo.jpg[/img]
I guess it's an acquired taste since I grew up around SAABs.
They also were innovative as fuck, they were basically the first car company to put turbo in every single one of their car lines, they invented the self repairing bumper, electrically heated seats, all sorts of shit. Telescopic steering wheel columns so in the event of a crash it would collapse instead of going through your chest, seat belts, all that type of shit.
[url]http://www.saabhistory.com/2007/11/16/saab-history-launches-section-on-saab-innovations/[/url]
They really are the most unique car company in the world IMO and I was very sad when I heard they were closing down.
[editline]8th March 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=shian;51926471]That looks fugly
please set it on fire and end its misery[/QUOTE]
shit taste confirmed
[QUOTE=Alex-Weazel;51927031]Love the Cappucino!
On a similar theme I saw another mini Suzuki parked outside my work today:
[IMG]http://images.honestjohn.co.uk/imagecache/file/width/640/media/6848843/Suzuki~X90~(2).jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.motorstown.com/images/suzuki-x90-08.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Reminds me of Kei Cars.
[QUOTE=Araknid;51928206]SAAB died because they cared too much for the satisfaction of the customer rather than mass production and money making. Their cars are some of the safest cars on the road, especially back in the 80s/90s. Even the location of the ignition being inbetween the seats was done with ergonomics and safety in mind. Sit in the car and straight away you put the key in as you go in and your hand is straight away right next to the gear stick/handbrake ready to go. And in the event of a crash, it prevents injuries to the knee where the keys would get jammed into your knee. I've seen no other car company think of that type of shit. When GM bought them out GM wanted them to make shitty cheap mass produced cars on the base of GM models, SAAB basically said fuck that and continued making their own shit.
Their cars are also some of the most enjoyable to drive. I've driven a SAAB 900 and it was the best car I've ever driven.
My dads driven shitloads of SAABs and and he's told me that they're the best cars that he's ever driven. And he's a mechanic so he's driven a fuckload of different cars (luxury mercs, BMWs, even Porsches and that type of shit).
They made SAAB 900s in four door but it doesn't look as nice.
[img]http://motorbase.s3.amazonaws.com/pictures/contributions/991202/std_1981_saab_900_turbo_4_door.jpg_turbo.jpg[/img]
I guess it's an acquired taste since I grew up around SAABs.
They also were innovative as fuck, they were basically the first car company to put turbo in every single one of their car lines, they invented the self repairing bumper, electrically heated seats, all sorts of shit. Telescopic steering wheel columns so in the event of a crash it would collapse instead of going through your chest, seat belts, all that type of shit.
[url]http://www.saabhistory.com/2007/11/16/saab-history-launches-section-on-saab-innovations/[/url]
They really are the most unique car company in the world IMO and I was very sad when I heard they were closing down.
[editline]8th March 2017[/editline]
shit taste confirmed[/QUOTE]
Saabs could be the most ergonomic and reliable cars on the road and I would not dispute that. But that doesn't mean that they're not allowed to be ugly, because they are to me. Older Italian cars, especially older Alfas and Lancias (except the 80's for some Alfas), were seen as beautiful with classic Italian flair, but I'm sure your dad could attest to them being among the least-reliable cars ever made. Because they probably were.
I actually like that 900 sedan much more than the coupé/hatchback/shooting-brake/whatever-it-is, because the proportions are so much better. The wheels are also actually tasteful, unlike that three spoke disaster on the model with the multiple personality disorder. I assume the one in that picture is an American model because of the horrid bumper extrusions, so I imagine it would look much better without those extrusions.
[QUOTE=BF;51928485]Saabs could be the most ergonomic and reliable cars on the road and I would not dispute that. But that doesn't mean that they're not allowed to be ugly, because they are to me. Older Italian cars, especially older Alfas and Lancias (except the 80's for some Alfas), were seen as beautiful with classic Italian flair, but I'm sure your dad could attest to them being among the least-reliable cars ever made. Because they probably were.
I actually like that 900 sedan much more than the coupé/hatchback/shooting-brake/whatever-it-is, because the proportions are so much better. The wheels are also actually tasteful, unlike that three spoke disaster on the model with the multiple personality disorder. I assume the one in that picture is an American model because of the horrid bumper extrusions, so I imagine it would look much better without those extrusions.[/QUOTE]
I was responding more to this
[quote]there's probably a few good reasons for why Saab is dead[/quote]
because the reasons why Saab died is bullshit, that they valued customer satisfaction and safety above ANYTHING else
[QUOTE=Alex-Weazel;51927031]Love the Cappucino!
On a similar theme I saw another mini Suzuki parked outside my work today:
[IMG]http://images.honestjohn.co.uk/imagecache/file/width/640/media/6848843/Suzuki~X90~(2).jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.motorstown.com/images/suzuki-x90-08.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Aww, it thinks it's European.
[t]http://www.autoviva.com/img/photos/331/fiat_city_car_prototype_large_37331.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=BF;51924784]Not awfully bad from the front, but the rear is an absolute mess. And I have no idea why Honda insists on having back windows cut in half like that. Must have terrible visibility.
[editline]7th March 2017[/editline]
The Alfa Giulietta will always be the most-beautiful hatchback
[t]http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2011-alfa-romeo-giulietta-qv-1750-tbi-3.jpg[/t]
With the Audi S3 Sportback in a close second place
[t]https://audimediacenter-a.akamaihd.net/system/production/media/30224/images/f81e68baac5768d68690893c535fb497094ae97b/A161877_full.jpg?1459862692[/t]
[editline]7th March 2017[/editline]
The S3 is probably too much of a 'wannabe supercar', but the Audi A3 still looks very nice. Thicker tyres and softer suspension mean it's going to actually be comfortable, and the 1.4 CoD engine means it has proper good fuel consumption figures without having to be an ugly Diesel.
[t]http://starmoz.com/images/audi-a3-14-tfsi-cod-2.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
I don't know if this hardon is for the cars, or if its for someone who also likes audis, like you :buddy:
But seriously, sportbacks look great.
[QUOTE=shian;51762203]Why drive a simple car when you can drive a bomb
[img]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/01/halfway-through-the-battle-for-mosu/m28_AP17029635290110/main_1200.jpg?1485890639[/img][/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/CbHJXWG.jpg[/img]
They just rolled out a facelifted version
I have an irrational urge to own a Suzuki Samurai
[thumb]http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/media/img/readerrides/2007-11-08_1_1987_Suzuki.JPG[/thumb]
[sp]This one strangely has a bmw badge on the front grille[/sp]
[thumb]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/87/4b/d2/874bd2aba13d5daa8de01f0bb1585ef2.jpg[/thumb]
I just feel like doing snow skids in it untill the inevitable rollover.
Talking about mini offroaders.
[img]http://www.rac.co.uk/drive/images/made/drive/images/remote/http_f2.caranddriving.com/images/used/big/daiha4tr_751_500_70.jpg[/img]
Always liked the Fourtrak (Rugger/Rocky).
[QUOTE=Karolk;51931547]I have an irrational urge to own a Suzuki Samurai
[thumb]http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/media/img/readerrides/2007-11-08_1_1987_Suzuki.JPG[/thumb]
[sp]This one strangely has a bmw badge on the front grille[/sp]
[thumb]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/87/4b/d2/874bd2aba13d5daa8de01f0bb1585ef2.jpg[/thumb]
I just feel like doing snow skids in it untill the inevitable rollover.[/QUOTE]
My dad has had several.
Prepare for wet feet during rain
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;51930212]I don't know if this hardon is for the cars, or if its for someone who also likes audis, like you :buddy:
But seriously, sportbacks look great.[/QUOTE]
Sportbacks are excellent. And the A3 sedans are nice as well. If I could buy any reasonably affordable car today, I would get either an A3 Sportback, Holden Commodore SS or base model Alfa Giulia (sedan, not the Giulietta hatchback but which also looks incredible). A lot of Audis look rather decent, but I don't love them unconditionally; the Audi R8s just look wrong to me, for instance.
[QUOTE=BF;51932709]Sportbacks are excellent. And the A3 sedans are nice as well. If I could buy any reasonably affordable car today, I would get either an A3 Sportback, Holden Commodore SS or base model Alfa Giulia (sedan, not the Giulietta hatchback but which also looks incredible). A lot of Audis look rather decent, but I don't love them unconditionally; the Audi R8s just look wrong to me, for instance.[/QUOTE]
The R8s are ok to me. I like them, but I don't love them either.
I DO love the RS4 B7 though. Straight up dream car. No gtr, no Veyron, no lambo, nothing. Just give me a RS4.
Perfect ammount of hp, usable daily (except bad mpg) and subtle yet rugged looks... Mmmmmm...
But are sportbacks nice for every person or just for people who like sportbacks?
In a few years, I'm gonna need a new used car. Sadly, it will be a diesel, because Portugal's diesel market is huge and much better than petrol due to the latter being expensive to pay per litre.
I could go either for the 8P 3 door or 5 door sportback, or a Seat Leon, which is basicaly the same, but slightly lower quality but better reliability.
The sportback looks cool as fuck, but I don't know if its really worth it... Love the looka though. Does it come with a sunroof? I'd love to have one.
[IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9c/38/91/9c3891aec18ce68d6c86022bcc3eb7ab.jpg[/IMG]
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....:neat:
[t]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CXIz4ZwHD2I/maxresdefault.jpg[/t]
I hate that front design so much.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;51945155][t]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CXIz4ZwHD2I/maxresdefault.jpg[/t]
I hate that front design so much.[/QUOTE]
Probably cause it's a Citroen.
[t]http://blog.inautomotive.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Citroen-Relay-Van-For-Sale.jpg[/t]
Why would they put a RAM badge on a Citroen???
Either way it's a gross van, stay off my turf.
[IMG]http://image.trucktrend.com/f/42283402+w660+h495+cr1/1986-ford-econoline.jpg[/IMG]
Can't compete with a classic.
Pure sex
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d5/f2/ab/d5f2ab5fbe623b928f672424307bd068.jpg[/t]
[t]http://cartype.com/pics/8513/full/lamborghini_countach_88-89_05.jpg[/t]
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/78/d4/f7/78d4f7f772a6c4321fa0f0435e4024f8.jpg[/t]
[t]https://www.supercars.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/1982_Lamborghini_CountachLP5000S1.jpg[/t]
Bonus:
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Lamborghini_LM002_Gen1_Type129_1986-1993_1988_frontleft_2013-03-17_U.JPG/1200px-Lamborghini_LM002_Gen1_Type129_1986-1993_1988_frontleft_2013-03-17_U.JPG[/t]
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;51946149]Either way it's a gross van, stay off my turf.
[IMG]http://image.trucktrend.com/f/42283402+w660+h495+cr1/1986-ford-econoline.jpg[/IMG]
Can't compete with a classic.[/QUOTE]
Kidnapper van
But yeah thats a really cool van.
God damn the AMG GTS is a stunning car
[t]http://i.imgur.com/x93q9h3.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/ODcW1qo.jpg[/t]
this thread needs some large displacement aero-cars
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Napier-Railton_at_Brooklands.jpg/1280px-Napier-Railton_at_Brooklands.jpg[/t]
[t]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sWlKcDy6F_Y/maxresdefault.jpg[/t]
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/1e/51/81/1e51814e902e2846ac013310e38e80c3.jpg[/t]
[t]https://assets.hemmings.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2014/12/15903457871_6c64f91809_o.jpg[/t]
this one had a 28.5 Liter 4 cylinder engine, just over 7 liters per cylinder. very low RPMs
[editline]13th March 2017[/editline]
[t]http://media.virbcdn.com/cdn_images/resize_1024x1024/88/68cb09fe134e43ad-14250397909_e1319c7521_o.jpg[/t]
[editline]13th March 2017[/editline]
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/44/8b/44/448b44ce12cb5172156a300bb6f90929.jpg[/t]
[t]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mcheow1dFlQ/TKossYEETEI/AAAAAAAABlU/k558pmAG9jU/s1600/PA030845.JPG[/t]
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4b/49/cd/4b49cd1240065e370478e35e4bccf257.jpg[/t]
[t]https://morewheelspin.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/img_8053.jpg?w=3000&h=2250[/t]
displacement displacement displacement!
[editline]13th March 2017[/editline]
[video=youtube;bsdWgmp4TaQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsdWgmp4TaQ[/video]
[editline]13th March 2017[/editline]
[t]http://avto-fly.info/catalog/darracq/darracq-200hp/darracq-200hp-09.jpg[/t]
Darracq, 200 HP V8 engine. Now I know what you're saying "But its not that big!" I know I know, but in 1905 this was the fastest car in the world and bonus, it looks exactly like something you could build yourself today! its as close as you can get to driving an engine block
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51953728]God damn the AMG GTS is a stunning car
[t]http://i.imgur.com/x93q9h3.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/ODcW1qo.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
You could have at least chosen better pictures of it, I can't see shit! But yes it does look quite nice, although I'd opt for just the standard GT.
Speaking of GT cars (actual GT cars, not cars with a GT badged slapped on them), one simply cannot forget to mention the Maserati GranTurismo! Aside from some personal reservations about the front fascia, it looks rather beautiful:
[t]http://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/800/500/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Maserati-GranTurismo-MC-Sportline-4.jpg[/t]
[t]https://res.cloudinary.com/carsguide/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto,t_cg_hero_large/v1/editorial/Maserati-GranTurismo-MCSport-2015-(3).jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Sableye;51956508]this thread needs some large displacement aero-cars
[I]Long cars that consists mainly of a huge engine[/I]
Darracq, 200 HP V8 engine. Now I know what you're saying "But its not that big!" I know I know, but in 1905 this was the fastest car in the world and bonus, it looks exactly like something you could build yourself today! its as close as you can get to driving an engine block[/QUOTE]
We showing off old cars that consists of a huge engine, a chassis and only the bare essentials?
[video=youtube;wJn7LHE83cc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJn7LHE83cc[/video]
They look like they rolled out of a workshop where the workers had an airplane engine laying around with some other parts and had a slow day at work.
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