I honestly think GM is sneaking pictures of Azteks into the concept art folders of new SUVs
[T]http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/10/2016/10/2017-Honda-CR-V-rear-three-quarter-studio.jpg[/T]
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52104459]New ""Eclipse"" is such an ugly piece of shit, hell the Aztek actually looks much better since it got that sincere late '90s look.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wdybbJE.png[/img][/QUOTE]
crossovers were a mistake
[QUOTE=snookypookums;52083546]I present to you, the Cord 812. If Art Deco was a car, this would be it:
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/1937_Cord_812_Phaeton%2C_Lime_Rock.jpg/1200px-1937_Cord_812_Phaeton%2C_Lime_Rock.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
You've activated my modernist era fetish
[T]http://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/The-Philippine-1936-Auburn-851-Speedster-and-the-Pig-.jpg[/T] [T]http://www.madviolinist.com/myblog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Auburn-851-SC-Speedster_3.jpg[/T] [T]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Hudson_Terraplane_1937_-_Flickr_-_mick_-_Lumix.jpg[/T] [T]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_4VlT2VKLHQ/UW86fYeQlUI/AAAAAAAAOZE/2DegY-4uZn0/s1600/DSC04406.JPG[/T] [T]http://www.carstyling.ru/resources/classic/large/1937_Chrysler_Airflow_Coupe.jpg[/T] [T]http://www.carstyling.ru/resources/concept/1938_Buick_Y-Job_Concept_(Michael_Furman).jpg[/T] [T]http://www.conceptcarz.com/images/Phantom/38-Phantom-Corsair-DV-09-AI_b02.jpg[/T] [T]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cd/30/9d/cd309dbb0bf1293cff5a3d97ef525e0e.jpg[/T] [T]https://chuckmanchicagonostalgia.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/photo-chicago-train-chicago-and-north-western-streamlined-steam-engine-4008-engineer-at-window-1930s.jpg[/T] [T]http://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Broadway-Limited-38-Stude-Pres-600x470.jpg[/T] [T]https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5509/10946007774_acd1b0c591_b.jpg[/T] [T]http://www.steamlocomotive.com/hudson/cbq4001-weber.jpg[/T]
SPEED SLATS AND SMOOTH ROUNDED CURVES. UNF.
Fun fact, The Aeolus survived. Although the sheet metal is long since gone
[T]http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/22603/Burlington Route4000 4-6-4.JPG[/T]
Them timken rods and boxpoks mean it's a well balanced critter. Shame she's wired off in a park somewhere.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52104459]New ""Eclipse"" is such an ugly piece of shit, hell the Aztek actually looks much better since it got that sincere late '90s look.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wdybbJE.png[/img][/QUOTE]
lmao that's not eclipse
the eclipse i know is a wannabe boy racer
Whats that phantom long car?
That belongs in a sci fi noir future.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52112121]Whats that phantom long car?
That belongs in a sci fi noir future.[/QUOTE]
It was a prototype for a sort of uber high end coach built car line from the late 30's. Sorta like morgan or maybach is today, basically.
never went into production but goddamn, people remember it for a reason. Also, it was built on the Cord base, pleasingly enough.
I always liked the look of the second gen Scion tC, IMO it was the only decent Scion exclusive (the xA, xB, and xD were essentially boring econoboxes).
Here's one I test drove last friday which I liked. I'm leaning towards a 2002 Lexus IS300 that is 2k cheaper [b]($3,800)[/b] though, seems like a better deal overall [b](this Scion is for sale at $5,400)[/b].
[img]http://i.imgur.com/8Gt8mwu.jpg[/img]
that's the thing about IS200's from 2000... They look so ordinary, but they look really nice.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52148679]that's the thing about IS200's from 2000... They look so ordinary, but they look really nice.[/QUOTE]
Plus Supra engine, very cool.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52154982]Plus Supra engine, very cool.[/QUOTE]
Cool, but not very fast. Non turbo Supra's get from 0-100kmh in 7 seconds. For a sports car that's nothing. It's a bit faster than a Toyota Tacoma though. Now the turbo Supra, that's where the fun is. It goes from 0-100kmh in 4.5 seconds, which is pretty fast for a sports car, especially in the 90's.
After reading on this, I realized the the IS-200 doesn't even have the Supra's 2JZ-GTE or the IS-300's 2JZ-GE, but a 160 hp 1G-FE.
That's not to say the IS-200 isn't a nice car though. The engineers that build it were led by the same person that was responsible for the AE86. That alone should be enough to convince most people it's good.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;52104459]New ""Eclipse"" is such an ugly piece of shit, hell the Aztek actually looks much better since it got that sincere late '90s look.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wdybbJE.png[/img][/QUOTE]
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[img]http://media1.giphy.com/media/3o7buirYcmV5nSwIRW/giphy.gif[/img]
There's only one good Prius, and that's the Prius that was built to GT300 specifications. Which ironically had a V8 engine
[t]https://mawater-gr0cxgpfvwjmqd.stackpathdns.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Toyota-Prius-apr-GT@-Suzuka-Circuit.jpg[/t] [t]http://allracingcars.com/gallery/toyota-prius-gt300/2012-toyota-prius-gt300.jpg[/t]
[editline]2nd May 2017[/editline]
[sp]Actually the Prius c isn't bad at all[/sp]
[QUOTE=Desert Rat;52175317][img]https://services.edmunds-media.com/image-service/media-ed/sharp/?quality=70&format=jpg:progressive&image=/toyota/prius/2016/evox/2016_toyota_prius_4dr-hatchback_three_tds3_evox_6_500.jpg[/img]
[img]http://media1.giphy.com/media/3o7buirYcmV5nSwIRW/giphy.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Blame Honda for starting it.
[IMG]https://images.honestjohn.co.uk/imagecache/file/width/640/media/3169816/medium_Civic_5_Door_action_(2).jpg[/IMG]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/bgdCvfC.jpg[/img] the old 7 series with a small space between the doors looks real nice.
I also like what these guys did with the S type, a simple exterior that takes into consideration the original forms of the car.
[t]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BOC9PummjBg/TX6ovwAIcjI/AAAAAAAEJvg/HahEphlXmp8/s1600/Jaguar-S-Type-Vintage-GT-9770.jpg[/t]
[t]http://www.tuning.sk/images/news/panzani_design_jaguar_vintage_gt_06072011/jaguar_s-type-R_panzani-design_vintage-gt_5.jpg[/t]
[t]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2N9L6wA5Nhg/TX6ovHh8TfI/AAAAAAAEJvQ/N8pmob29teI/s1600/Jaguar-S-Type-Vintage-GT-9768.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=godfatherk;52180533][img]https://i.imgur.com/bgdCvfC.jpg[/img] the old 7 series with a small space between the doors looks real nice.
I also like what these guys did with the S type, a simple exterior that takes into consideration the original forms of the car.
[t]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BOC9PummjBg/TX6ovwAIcjI/AAAAAAAEJvg/HahEphlXmp8/s1600/Jaguar-S-Type-Vintage-GT-9770.jpg[/t]
[t]http://www.tuning.sk/images/news/panzani_design_jaguar_vintage_gt_06072011/jaguar_s-type-R_panzani-design_vintage-gt_5.jpg[/t]
[t]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2N9L6wA5Nhg/TX6ovHh8TfI/AAAAAAAEJvQ/N8pmob29teI/s1600/Jaguar-S-Type-Vintage-GT-9768.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
That Jag looks insane. I can see hints of Bentley, Maserati and even Alfa in that. What a car.
Edit:
As for the thing about the 7 series, I just can't like it. It looks like someone literally just stretched out a 5 series, without any consideration for proportions. It almost looks [i]American[/i].
One of my favourite long-wheelbase cars is the Holden Caprice/HSV Grange. Other Australians would know how ironic that is, considering my display picture. But the WN/Gen-F series are fine looking cars to me:
[t]http://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/960/500/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-holden-vfII-commodore-caprice-35.jpg[/t]
[t]http://media-dmg.assets-cdk.com/teams/repository/export/v/1/c3e/919d07c7310058ea300146edef087/c3e919d07c7310058ea300146edef087.jpg[/t]
[t]http://www.privatefleet.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/hsvgenfgrange.jpg[/t]
[t]http://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/770/382/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/HSV-Gen-F-Grange-2.jpg[/t]
[editline]3rd May 2017[/editline]
BUT IT'S STILL NOT AN AU THOUGH
[t]http://australiancar.reviews/_images/lrg/ford_fairlaneltd_au_ser1_01.jpg[/t]
There's Rolls-Royces. Then there's the AU Forte. THEN THERE'S THE AU FAIRLANE
[t]http://i.imgur.com/BDlRiig.jpg[/t]
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[QUOTE=BF;52180557]One of my favourite long-wheelbase cars is the Holden Caprice/HSV Grange. Other Australians would know how ironic that is, considering my display picture. But the WN/Gen-F series are fine looking cars to me:
[t]http://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/960/500/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-holden-vfII-commodore-caprice-35.jpg[/t]
[t]http://media-dmg.assets-cdk.com/teams/repository/export/v/1/c3e/919d07c7310058ea300146edef087/c3e919d07c7310058ea300146edef087.jpg[/t]
[t]http://www.privatefleet.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/hsvgenfgrange.jpg[/t]
[t]http://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/770/382/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/HSV-Gen-F-Grange-2.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Chevy's rebranding of it is really rubbish though:
[t]http://cdn.lsxmag.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/9/files/2011/03/Caprice-PPV-2.1.jpg[/t]
[t]http://hanabi.autoweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/gen-1200-675/public/923009999-2_1.jpg?itok=WJk2lqRD[/t]
It's got no business being a cop car. That back end is awful. It looks like a rental car. There's a reason the Caprice is almost never used here.
[QUOTE=Snowmew;52180782]Chevy's rebranding of it is really rubbish though:
[t]http://cdn.lsxmag.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/9/files/2011/03/Caprice-PPV-2.1.jpg[/t]
[t]http://hanabi.autoweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/gen-1200-675/public/923009999-2_1.jpg?itok=WJk2lqRD[/t]
It's got no business being a cop car. That back end is awful. It looks like a rental car. There's a reason the Caprice is almost never used here.[/QUOTE]
The wheels and American-style police decals ruin it. But the chev badge especially ruins it.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever noticed Pontiac GTOs, Pontiac G8s or Chevrolet SS over there in America re-badged with a Holden or HSV badge? Because there's this really odd phenomenon here of people buying Holden Commodores, that are designed and built here in Australia, but then they go and replace the Holden badges with Chev badges. It's absolutely idiotic because there's nothing 'Chevrolet' about the car except for a GM engine, and people who buy Commodores tend to claim that they are very patriotic. But then they replace an Australian badge with an American one?
Like at least if you saw one of those three cars over in America re-badged with a Holden badge, it would actually make sense, because all of them were built here. Pontiac GTO is a rebadged Holden Monaro, G8 is a VE Commodore, and SS is a VF Commodore. But it doesn't make sense that some Australians are putting Chev badges on their cars here.
[editline]4th May 2017[/editline]
Like for god's sake, I saw a brand spanking new Holden VF Commodore SS-V at a Holden dealership here which already had a Chev badge on it! It's ridiculous!
[QUOTE=BF;52180906]The wheels and American-style police decals ruin it. But the chev badge especially ruins it.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever noticed Pontiac GTOs, Pontiac G8s or Chevrolet SS over there in America re-badged with a Holden or HSV badge? Because there's this really odd phenomenon here of people buying Holden Commodores, that are designed and built here in Australia, but then they go and replace the Holden badges with Chev badges. It's absolutely idiotic because there's nothing 'Chevrolet' about the car except for a GM engine, and people who buy Commodores tend to claim that they are very patriotic. But then they replace an Australian badge with an American one?
Like at least if you saw one of those three cars over in America re-badged with a Holden badge, it would actually make sense, because all of them were built here. Pontiac GTO is a rebadged Holden Monaro, G8 is a VE Commodore, and SS is a VF Commodore. But it doesn't make sense that some Australians are putting Chev badges on their cars here.
[editline]4th May 2017[/editline]
Like for god's sake, I saw a brand spanking new Holden VF Commodore SS-V at a Holden dealership here which already had a Chev badge on it! It's ridiculous![/QUOTE]
I'm not super into car culture or anything but I can't recall ever seeing a Holden badge on the roads here.
Are you sure it's not that they're just buying Chevy-branded ones before they get shipped to the US?
Although I do know that the SS is a monumental flop in the US so Chevy could just be siphoning off their inventory into Australian Holden dealerships so they don't have to waste money shipping them here and storing them.
[QUOTE=Snowmew;52182670]I'm not super into car culture or anything but I can't recall ever seeing a Holden badge on the roads here.
Are you sure it's not that they're just buying Chevy-branded ones before they get shipped to the US?
Although I do know that the SS is a monumental flop in the US so Chevy could just be siphoning off their inventory into Australian Holden dealerships so they don't have to waste money shipping them here and storing them.[/QUOTE]
The cars exported to America are built specifically for the American market. Don't forget that we drive on the left, and you drive on the right. We have a different model range here as well.
People here must seem to think that a Chev badge adds 50 horsepower or something like that.
[QUOTE=BF;52180906]The wheels and American-style police decals ruin it. But the chev badge especially ruins it.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever noticed Pontiac GTOs, Pontiac G8s or Chevrolet SS over there in America re-badged with a Holden or HSV badge? Because there's this really odd phenomenon here of people buying Holden Commodores, that are designed and built here in Australia, but then they go and replace the Holden badges with Chev badges. It's absolutely idiotic because there's nothing 'Chevrolet' about the car except for a GM engine, and people who buy Commodores tend to claim that they are very patriotic. But then they replace an Australian badge with an American one?
Like at least if you saw one of those three cars over in America re-badged with a Holden badge, it would actually make sense, because all of them were built here. Pontiac GTO is a rebadged Holden Monaro, G8 is a VE Commodore, and SS is a VF Commodore. But it doesn't make sense that some Australians are putting Chev badges on their cars here.
[editline]4th May 2017[/editline]
Like for god's sake, I saw a brand spanking new Holden VF Commodore SS-V at a Holden dealership here which already had a Chev badge on it! It's ridiculous![/QUOTE]
Haven't seen it with an HSV badge but I have seen a Holden branded ex-cop Caprice. This is more common here to convert one badge engineered car to another, E.G. Ford Expedition to Lincoln Navigator, or Chevy Suburban/Tahoe to Cadillac Escalade, or even just a Toyota Camry into a Lexus ES. Of course these are far rarer on modern badge engineered cars, since the body paneling is far more distinct between brands than it used to be.
The caprice is junk as a cop car. It's too small inside, too big outside, difficult to service, too fragile, and has too small of a trunk.
[QUOTE=BF;52180557]BUT IT'S STILL NOT AN AU THOUGH[/QUOTE]
aww man I wanted to say 'but wheres your AU?' but you already did it for me
[editline]5th May 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=BF;52182715]The cars exported to America are built specifically for the American market. Don't forget that we drive on the left, and you drive on the right. We have a different model range here as well.
People here must seem to think that a Chev badge adds 50 horsepower or something like that.[/QUOTE]
Anyone here who sticks a chevy badge on their holden is a deadset fuckwit
I really, really like Maserati:
[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Maserati_3500_GT_front.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.a777aa77.ru/maserati/2004-maserati-mc12-5.jpg[/IMG]
MC12 is uuuuuge
Old Maserati is neat, but new Maserati just looks incredibly generic.
[QUOTE=DaBeaver;52185490]
[IMG]http://www.a777aa77.ru/maserati/2004-maserati-mc12-5.jpg[/IMG]
MC12 is uuuuuge[/QUOTE]
ah yes the Maserati MC12
aka 'I'm not Enzo, I'm my original character, Blenzo'
Isn't it considerably faster though?
[QUOTE=joost1120;52189197]Isn't it considerably faster though?[/QUOTE]
if we're talking about top speed, this goes 330km/h compared to Enzo's 350
[QUOTE=Spectre1406;52189392]if we're talking about top speed, this goes 330km/h compared to Enzo's 350[/QUOTE]
They drove it on Top Gear and said it not only felt a lot faster, but also went faster around their track.
[t]http://cdn1.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/images/car_photo_311206.jpg[/t]
90's BTCC racers are the most memorable thanks to TOCA games
