these two (three) are and will forever be the best hot hatches
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unfortunately even non-gti Mk2 and Mk1 Golfs don't exist in Australia
I would kill for one of them
[QUOTE=Araknid;53166053]these two (three) are and will forever be the best hot hatches
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unfortunately even non-gti Mk2 and Mk1 Golfs don't exist in Australia
I would kill for one of them[/QUOTE]
Haha. My brother has a 205. It’s not a GTi, but it has been styled as a GTi (eg with GTi stickers). Goes pretty good actually; a few months ago we took it up a twisty country road, and the way he drove it I swore that we were going to die in a crash.
Speaking of Peugeots, here’s the new 508. I like it; especially the taillights.
[t]https://carimages.com.au/TtNSb2b_TICGrVdLQei7AcGSeOA=/fit-in/930x620/filters:stretch(FFFFFF)/editorial/117344/2018-peugeot-508-681.jpg[/t]
[t]https://carimages.com.au/CSswGxXEsdAwQFow7bCF1R3LCiw=/fit-in/800x0/filters:none(FFFFFF)/editorial/117344/2018-peugeot-508-548.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=snookypookums;53160221]The golden age of rally in one picture[/QUOTE]
No.
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[t]https://rallygroupbshrine.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/1983-audi-quattro-a1-mikkola.jpg[/t][t]https://www.bmp-motorsportfotos.com/typo3temp/_processed_/9/d/csm_Mayer_S1_f98c766ed3.jpg[/t]
[I]This was the golden age.[/I]
[QUOTE=BF;53166066]Haha. My brother has a 205. It’s not a GTi, but it has been styled as a GTi (eg with GTi stickers). Goes pretty good actually; a few months ago we took it up a twisty country road, and the way he drove it I swore that we were going to die in a crash.
Speaking of Peugeots, here’s the new 508. I like it; especially the taillights.
[t]https://carimages.com.au/TtNSb2b_TICGrVdLQei7AcGSeOA=/fit-in/930x620/filters:stretch(FFFFFF)/editorial/117344/2018-peugeot-508-681.jpg[/t]
[t]https://carimages.com.au/CSswGxXEsdAwQFow7bCF1R3LCiw=/fit-in/800x0/filters:none(FFFFFF)/editorial/117344/2018-peugeot-508-548.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Minus the teardrop the front looks disturbingly similar to a Kia Optima and the rear looks like a futuristic version of the older Sentras :v:
My biggest problem with Peugeot is specifically that they build nice meanie looking cars and then stick it with the motoring equivalent of a pencil sharpener for an engine. It's really disappointing to drive in a car like that.
[editline]28th February 2018[/editline]
[QUOTE=Reagy;53166245]No.
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[t]https://rallygroupbshrine.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/1983-audi-quattro-a1-mikkola.jpg[/t][t]https://www.bmp-motorsportfotos.com/typo3temp/_processed_/9/d/csm_Mayer_S1_f98c766ed3.jpg[/t]
[I]This was the golden age.[/I][/QUOTE]
You choose that Lancia over the Integrale HF?[B][I]HERESY![/I][/B]
Group B was insanity but the reason I don't count it as the golden age was because I consider it the Genesis of what rally as a sport is today. Everything before that was exciting but no where [I]frantic[/I] like the Group B rallies were. It has its own special place in my heart.
[QUOTE=Araknid;53166053]these two (three) are and will forever be the best hot hatches
[t]http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31300000/VW-GOLF-GTI-MK2-vw-golf-31340308-1024-708.jpg[/t]
unfortunately even non-gti Mk2 and Mk1 Golfs don't exist in Australia
I would kill for one of them[/QUOTE]
Friend drives a Golf MK2 with a 1.3l engine. And he drives like a fucking madman. not reccomend.
I mean, 140km/h snapchat videos in a ~1000kg car are scary to look at. They are so light and spooky at high speeds, they almost fly and you lose the feel of the road completely. I wouldn't trust it.
Also, he has been talking about a VR6 swap for 2 years now, waiting to see that happen.
Ford Shogun
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[t]https://i1.wp.com/hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ford-fiesta-shogun-yellow-1.jpg?resize=700%2C525[/t]
Ford Festiva with a Taurus SHO V6 in the back.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;53166702]Ford Shogun
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[t]https://i1.wp.com/hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ford-fiesta-shogun-yellow-1.jpg?resize=700%2C525[/t]
Ford Festiva with a Taurus SHO V6 in the back.[/QUOTE]
Kinda reminds of me a Renault 5 Turbo:
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[QUOTE=snookypookums;53166743]Kinda reminds of me a Renault 5 Turbo[/QUOTE]
Basically the exact same idea but with a way crazier engine.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;53166745]Basically the exact same idea but with a way crazier engine.[/QUOTE]
True, in a way it's kind of a precursor to the one off, batshit insane Golf W12. :v:
[video=youtube;chreIG-6NXo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chreIG-6NXo[/video]
[QUOTE=snookypookums;53166315]You choose that Lancia over the Integrale HF?[B][I]HERESY![/I][/B][/QUOTE]
Last RWD to win WRC, it holds a special place because of that, even though Lancia really abused the rules. :v:
[QUOTE=Reagy;53166933]Last RWD to win WRC, it holds a special place because of that, even though Lancia really abused the rules. :v:[/QUOTE]
I guess what they are now is probably 'Car'ma. :v:
[t]https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/new-lancia-ypsilon-is-already-pass-99745_1.jpg[/t]
Seriously though, what I wouldn't give for a redesigned Integrale to bring back hot hatchies again.
[IMG]http://cdn1.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/article_main_image/public/3/33//lancia_front_main_pic.jpg?itok=WtHp4fxu[/IMG]
Or a legit Stratos that's not a kit car.
I still think my favorite looking rally car is the Renault Alpine A110. It just has those swooping lines like 60-70's sports cars, but on a car made for rally.
[t]https://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/renault-alpine-a110_100317136_l.jpg[/t]
[t]https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--dhK3em94--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_900,q_80,w_1600/xz0o2prg7ciz81v0ztlp.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=snookypookums;53166984]I guess what they are now is probably 'Car'ma. :v:
[t]https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/new-lancia-ypsilon-is-already-pass-99745_1.jpg[/t]
Seriously though, what I wouldn't give for a redesigned Integrale to bring back hot hatchies again.
[IMG]http://cdn1.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/article_main_image/public/3/33//lancia_front_main_pic.jpg?itok=WtHp4fxu[/IMG]
Or a legit Stratos that's not a kit car.[/QUOTE]
Yeah what happened to them is really sad, they have a strong brand name to work with yet the only thing they produce now is an econobox and they only sell it nationally. Shadow of their former selves like a lot of companies from that time.
I'd love a Lancia Integrale even if they had mechanical issues. Although I don't know if the civilian models had them at all.
[QUOTE=Trooper0315;53167043]I still think my favorite looking rally car is the Renault Alpine A110. It just has those swooping lines like 60-70's sports cars, but on a car made for rally.
[t]https://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/renault-alpine-a110_100317136_l.jpg[/t]
[t]https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--dhK3em94--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_900,q_80,w_1600/xz0o2prg7ciz81v0ztlp.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Speaking of Alpines just reminded me : who remembers the baller BMW Alpina's? For a person who likes spotting weird cars, I've only ever seen a BMW Alpina once in my life. They're truly a very fascinating, [I]ongoing[/I], quirk of BMW that nobody seems to talk about.
[t]https://13252-presscdn-0-94-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/BMWM635CSI-AlpinaB10-3.5-4-940x530.jpg[/t]
[video=youtube;twtiDCRuNtk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twtiDCRuNtk[/video]
Very interesting, rare cars. I'm kinda hoping Doug manages to find someone who'll let him take a look at it so I can see it a bit better close up.
TIL there's actually an Up! GTi which supposedly was unveiled very recently.
[img]http://siena.rosselcdn.net/sites/default/files/dpistyles_v2/ena_16_9_extra_big/2018/02/02/node_186059/547050/public/2018/02/02/B9714627424Z.1_20180202145045_000%2BG6NAKBUL2.1-0.jpg?itok=sMadu3zS[/img]
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;53182198]TIL there's actually an Up! GTi which supposedly was unveiled very recently.
[img]http://siena.rosselcdn.net/sites/default/files/dpistyles_v2/ena_16_9_extra_big/2018/02/02/node_186059/547050/public/2018/02/02/B9714627424Z.1_20180202145045_000%2BG6NAKBUL2.1-0.jpg?itok=sMadu3zS[/img][/QUOTE]
There's a five door version too, but it looks hideously out of proportion.
[QUOTE=BF;53182581]There's a five door version too, but it looks hideously out of proportion.[/QUOTE]
Looks alright in the Cross configuration, I don't see it looking good any other way.
[img]https://acs2.blob.core.windows.net/imgcatalogo/xl/VA_ebef1f6e8ad447b28c5a024d7460c69e.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;53182198]TIL there's actually an Up! GTi which supposedly was unveiled very recently.
[img]http://siena.rosselcdn.net/sites/default/files/dpistyles_v2/ena_16_9_extra_big/2018/02/02/node_186059/547050/public/2018/02/02/B9714627424Z.1_20180202145045_000%2BG6NAKBUL2.1-0.jpg?itok=sMadu3zS[/img][/QUOTE]
looks pretty fun
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;53182589]Looks alright in the Cross configuration, I don't see it looking good any other way.
[img]https://acs2.blob.core.windows.net/imgcatalogo/xl/VA_ebef1f6e8ad447b28c5a024d7460c69e.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Point is they probably shouldn’t have made a 5 door version. I can’t think of a reason why someone would want such a small car, then option it with 5 doors. A Polo 5 door isn’t that much larger, but would make a hell of a difference for rear seat passengers.
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GR Supra racing concept has been officially unveiled
[QUOTE=BF;53182872]Point is they probably shouldn’t have made a 5 door version. I can’t think of a reason why someone would want such a small car, then option it with 5 doors. A Polo 5 door isn’t that much larger, but would make a hell of a difference for rear seat passengers.[/QUOTE]
Polos look like Golfs now, its so weird
[QUOTE=StrykerE;53182980]GR Supra racing concept has been officially unveiled[/QUOTE]
Mad props for Toyota for finally making something that doesn't look fucking insane,unlike this.
[IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/2sb64i9.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=weyu6572;53183294]Mad props for Toyota for finally making something that doesn't look fucking insane,unlike this.
[IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/2sb64i9.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Toyota has had some decent looking sedans in recent years, eg the Aurion and Mark X
[t]https://motoring.pxcrush.net/motoring/general/editorial/Toyota-Aurion-Sportivo-006-s3mc.jpg?width=1024[/t] [t]https://motoring.pxcrush.net/motoring/general/editorial/Toyota-Aurion-Sportivo-004-q2nm.jpg?width=1024[/t]
[t]https://carsales.pxcrush.net/carsales/car/private/cp5162030131905932648.jpg?pxc_method=fit&pxc_size=1197%2c798[/t] [t]https://carsales.pxcrush.net/carsales/car/private/cp4856745169363428780.jpg?pxc_method=fit&pxc_size=1197%2c798[/t] [t]https://carsales.pxcrush.net/carsales/car/private/cp4985995118620640441.jpg?pxc_method=fit&pxc_size=1197%2c798[/t]
It’s a shame that Mark Xs aren’t awfully common in Australia. But I believe that I saw a few of them while I was in New Zealand recently.
[QUOTE=weyu6572;53183294]Mad props for Toyota for finally making something that doesn't look fucking insane,unlike this.
[IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/2sb64i9.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
The Supra is ugly as fuck though.
Should have posted an actually nice looking 'Yota.
[img]https://autocarweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2018-Toyota-Land-Cruiser-Prado-Front-Photo.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=StrykerE;53182980][t]https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/916x515/quality/95/https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/726/511/0/S7265110/slug/l/01-toyota-gr-supra-racing-concept-geneva-1.jpg[/t][t]https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/916x515/quality/95/https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/726/511/1/S7265111/slug/l/02-toyota-gr-supra-racing-concept-geneva-1.jpg[/t][t]https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/toyota-gr-supra-racing-concept_100645067_h.jpg[/t]
GR Supra racing concept has been officially unveiled[/QUOTE]
The frontside and overall silhouette look pretty solid and reminiscent of the original but the back (especially the tails) is so uninspired and derivative which is a shame considering how iconic the original Supra's rear end was.
EDIT: I also am realizing that I totally missed the original new Supra announcement which looks even worse imo
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;53183464]The Supra is ugly as fuck though.
Should have posted an actually nice looking 'Yota.
[img]https://autocarweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2018-Toyota-Land-Cruiser-Prado-Front-Photo.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Looks just as awful
Modern Toyota is trash
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;53183464]The Supra is ugly as fuck though.
Should have posted an actually nice looking 'Yota.
[T]https://autocarweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2018-Toyota-Land-Cruiser-Prado-Front-Photo.jpg[/T][/QUOTE]
toyota 4x4's are absolutely wonderful
would love to get a modern hybrid rav4
[QUOTE=Araknid;53184174]Looks just as awful
Modern Toyota is trash[/QUOTE]
I agree about that Land Cruiser. It just looks gaudy, kinda faux-luxurious. And also over-designed. That describes most Japanese cars, really.
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