I wish they adapted Yamato 2 instead of (what looks like) Farewell Yamato for the new 2199 movie.
i have begun logh
Psychological
Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica
Danganronpa: The Animation
Selector Infected WIXOSS
WHY?!
Science Fiction
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu
WHYYYYYYYYYYY?!
[QUOTE=dgg;46395538]Psychological
Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica
Danganronpa: The Animation
Selector Infected WIXOSS
WHY?![/QUOTE]
who was this? lmao
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;46395549]who was this? lmao[/QUOTE]
[url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgdYRqGwIvawdFFIXzkxcTBoNmNIdmNsZVd6RXl3Mnc&usp=sharing]I'm above calling out people for such embarassements[/url]
[editline]3rd November 2014[/editline]
[B]Roflman[/B]
Shinsekai Yori is a horror drama, not a thriller, you will have to replace that vote with something else.
[QUOTE=dgg;46395565][url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgdYRqGwIvawdFFIXzkxcTBoNmNIdmNsZVd6RXl3Mnc&usp=sharing]I'm above calling out people for such embarassements[/url][/QUOTE]
What the fuck, someone actually recommended Inu x Boku SS?
[QUOTE=dgg;46393192]Psycho-pass ep3-4
My god, the entirety of ep 3 is a poorly written piece of garbage. Who's idea was it to try and make Psycho-pass into some shitty CSI knockoff?
The new inspector that is on the edge always criticizing Tsunemori, never satisfied with her responses and always making her into "the wrong guy" whilst herself being a useless piece of shit that can't even make her decisions on her own and follows things by the book.
What a stupid fucking character, she's so incredibly forced to act a certain way just to make their absolute garbage writing move along and progress a poorly made story.
Only the damn cliffhanger of ep3 was interesting, which lasts for a whole 1-3 seconds.
ep4 was just more of the same, investigation entirely showcased with questions and answers, no actual investigation at all, just asking questions all the time and then having dialogue where they've come up with some possible answers.
And whilst the end was kinda cool, it's also incredibly fucking stupid, because again, it oozes of poor forced writing which is all like "HEY THIS IS FUCKED UP RIGHT?! YEAH DON'T FOLLOW THE BOOK KIDS! THAT SURE SHOWED THAT NEW INSPECTOR HOW BAD THE SYSTEM IS! FUCK THE CORPORATE WORLD BIATCH!"
The actions taken are just absurd as fuck and doesn't make any sense. [sp]Let's blindly shoot into a room where people are panicking, giving them a clouded hue and hope it resolves the situation by killing the person that has the highest crime reading. Especially when the fucking doors are opening and we can find out what the fuck is going on.
Oh and let's shoot all the civilianz becuase they are in a state of panic and covered in blood[/sp]
You need to be a genius at both forced and dumb writing to come up with this shit.
I was expecting Psyco-Pass 2 to be ruined by taking an action angle on it, being more generic and appealing to the younger generation. Not by trying to actually be Psyco-Pass but not understanding, at all, what made it so great. (If they knew what made it so great they wouldn't have made a sequel in the first place)
Oh, and the art is really bad at times. Triangle face with triangle eyes.[/QUOTE]
I disagree, the entire premise of the second season seems [sp]to be a clash of doing what the individual thinks to be right versus what society and in turn Sibyl seems to be right. In the very first episode of S1 we already saw that a traumatized person can still be registered as a target for enforcement but Tsunemori saved her. Same with the bomber in the early episodes of S2.
None of what you said is stupid in the context of the Sibyl system and Psycho-Pass universe. Even Shimotsuki knows that shooting civilians is wrong and she stands useless because despite her firmly believing in Sibyl, her moral judgement conflicts with it while the others from the other squad just say that they are doing their job. The Public Safety Bureau ultimately are a force for serving the judgement of Sibyl.
It's a lot more straightforward with how they are presenting Sibyl in S2 but I think they are more focusing on showing how firm believers of the system are shown to change when they are put in a extreme situation where they are forced to either act by the system and suffer for it or go by their own moral judgement, which Aoyanagi dies for.[/sp]
[editline]3rd November 2014[/editline]
The only problem I had with how Shimotsuki acted is [sp]How she is adamant on thinking nothing is wrong when the shutters are down and the area stress level inside the building is rising, I guess you can argue that she still thinks Aoyanagi is under control however I think the shutters being down in the first place is a clear indication that something is wrong.[/sp]
[QUOTE=ashxu;46395668]I disagree, the entire premise of the second season seems [sp]to be a clash of doing what the individual thinks to be right versus what society and in turn Sibyl seems to be right. In the very first episode of S1 we already saw that a traumatized person can still be registered as a target for enforcement but Tsunemori saved her. Same with the bomber in the early episodes of S2.
None of what you said is stupid in the context of the Sibyl system and Psycho-Pass universe. Even Shimotsuki knows that shooting civilians is wrong and she stands useless because despite her firmly believing in Sibyl, her moral judgement conflicts with it while the others from the other squad just say that they are doing their job. The Public Safety Bureau ultimately are a force for serving the judgement of Sibyl.
It's a lot more straightforward with how they are presenting Sibyl in S2 but I think they are more focusing on showing how firm believers of the system are shown to change when they are put in a extreme situation where they are forced to either act by the system and suffer for it or go by their own moral judgement, which Aoyanagi dies for.[/sp][/QUOTE]
You do realize S1 was about exactly the same thing and it did it in a way that made sense, was way less forced and didn't rely on people being mindless drones that just do as they are told in order to advance the plot?
The way they are acting in S2 is in stark contrast to the way they were acting in S1. People that were following the system weren't unaware of the moral difficulties of the job, that's after all why they have whatevertheyrecalled that do the dirty work for them that were previously officers themselves.
People are just robots so far in S2, they have a programmed way of behaviour and stick to it. "I am a stubborn motherfucker that think you are wrong, so no matter what I will think you are wrong". [sp]"I am just doing my job so I don't care about killing civilians or learning about the situation, I was told by this voice in my gun that I were to kill these clearly innocent people that have commited no crime nor will do so[/sp].
S1 used people in grey-areas to present moral dilemmas, S2 doesn't seem to have a care in the world as long as they can shove the story they want to tell down your threat, regardless of logic.
It's pretty much going against everything it built up in S1.
[editline]3rd November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=ashxu;46395668]The only problem I had with how Shimotsuki acted is [sp]How she is adamant on thinking nothing is wrong when the shutters are down and the area stress level inside the building is rising, I guess you can argue that she still thinks Aoyanagi is under control however I think the shutters being down in the first place is a clear indication that something is wrong.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]The shutters go down, they can't fucking contact her at all and the stress levels are above the CRITICAL WARNING LEVELS despite the officer being inside. "oh, I guess it's nothing, she probably has it all under control, let's wait for her response that we cant get because it's impossible to get contact"[/sp]
It's just fucking dumb.
[QUOTE=dgg;46395706]You do realize S1 was about exactly the same thing and it did it in a way that made sense, was way less forced and didn't rely on people being mindless drones that just do as they are told in order to advance the plot?
The way they are acting in S2 is in stark contrast to the way they were acting in S1. People that were following the system weren't unaware of the moral difficulties of the job, that's after all why they have whatevertheyrecalled that do the dirty work for them that were previously officers themselves.
People are just robots so far in S2, they have a programmed way of behaviour and stick to it. "I am a stubborn motherfucker that think you are wrong, so no matter what I will think you are wrong". [sp]"I am just doing my job so I don't care about killing civilians or learning about the situation, I was told by this voice in my gun that I were to kill these clearly innocent people that have commited no crime nor will do so[/sp].
S1 used people in grey-areas to present moral dilemmas, S2 doesn't seem to have a care in the world as long as they can shove the story they want to tell down your threat, regardless of logic.
It's pretty much going against everything it built up in S1.
[editline]3rd November 2014[/editline]
[sp]The shutters go down, they can't fucking contact her at all and the stress levels are above the CRITICAL WARNING LEVELS despite the officer being inside. "oh, I guess it's nothing, she probably has it all under control, let's wait for her response that we cant get because it's impossible to get contact"[/sp]
It's just fucking dumb.[/QUOTE]
I agree it's a lot more straightforward however they revealed most of their hand in S1 so I'm mostly seeing where they are doing with what they are doing in S2. I'm expecting the set up into a twist or breaking point because the theme seems to be very clear.
Also it's stupid yeah but I still believe in universe it does make sense. The entire nation is judged by Sibyl and almost everyone is happy with it. It makes sense that people throw away their personal moral judgement in order to trust it (Or you could even say their moral judgement is so influenced by Sibyl that it overrides clear discrepancies). I mean the public in season one [sp]couldn't even comprehend what was happening when a murder was taking place right in front of them for gods sake[/sp]
[QUOTE=Calkkuna;46395610]What the fuck, someone actually recommended Inu x Boku SS?[/QUOTE]
IT WAS CUUTE
CUUUUUTEEE
[QUOTE=ashxu;46395772]Also it's stupid yeah but I still believe in universe it does make sense. The entire nation is judged by Sibyl and almost everyone is happy with it. It makes sense that people throw away their personal moral judgement in order to trust it (Or you could even say their moral judgement is so influenced by Sibyl that it overrides clear discrepancies). I mean the public in season one [sp]couldn't even comprehend what was happening when a murder was taking place right in front of them for gods sake[/sp][/QUOTE]
No, it doesn't make sense in our outside of the universe. That should be very clear from season 1.
The entire nation is judged by Sibyl and many commoners are ok with it, but there are many people that are not in favor in it but there is nothing they can do about it, going against the system will cloud your hue, they have no choice but follow the system. The police were definitely not unaware of the moralistic problems it brought with it, they just dealt with it to keep their job and their hue in check. [sp]The only reason Tsune didn't conform to the system, bow down and suck it up for the best of her own interest is because the system allowed her to, Sibyl didn't let her hue become clouded[/sp]
How the public reacted to that event in S1 is completely irrelevant because the show is about the officers, and they are who we are talking about as well. We are not talking about the commeners, what happened was not caused by commoners, it was caused by the police.
[QUOTE=dgg;46395565]Shinsekai Yori is a horror drama, not a thriller, you will have to replace that vote with something else.[/QUOTE]
horror&action typically overlap with thriller, and horror+drama pretty much is a thriller most of the time
[quote]The thriller is a genre of fiction in which tough, resourceful, but essentially ordinary heroes are pitted against villains determined to destroy them, their country, or the stability of the free world. The hero of a typical thriller faces danger alone or in the company of a small band of companions. The protagonist may be a law enforcement agent, a journalist, or a soldier, but typically he or she is cut off from the resources of "their" organization. More often the hero is an ordinary citizen drawn into danger and intrigue by circumstances beyond their control. (Source: Wikipedia)[/quote]
in relation to shinsekai yori
[sp]1) As kids, the main suspense is with those cat demon things
2) As adults, against the rat people
3) as the adult community, against the possibility/actuality of fiends
most of the story focuses around the small band of main characters doing their best to prevent their society from collapsing by themselves
the goal for most of the story is figuring out the rat people's plot, what the rat people actually are, and finding out what the fiends are.[/sp]
it pretty much lines up with a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28genre%29#Sub-genres_in_film]supernatural thriller[/url] thanks to their psychic powers.
So is there going to be lots of hair-splitting over the categories or just a couple?
[QUOTE=dgg;46395839]No, it doesn't make sense in our outside of the universe. That should be very clear from season 1.
The entire nation is judged by Sibyl and many commoners are ok with it, but there are many people that are not in favor in it but there is nothing they can do about it, going against the system will cloud your hue, they have no choice but follow the system. The police were definitely not unaware of the moralistic problems it brought with it, they just dealt with it to keep their job and their hue in check.
How the public reacted to that event in S1 is completely irrelevant because the show is about the officers, and they are who we are talking about as well. We are not talking about the commeners, what happened was not caused by commoners, it was caused by the police.[/QUOTE]
It is not irrelevant and ignoring it would be missing an important scene showing how the Psycho-Pass universe works. The public aren't mindless drones and only the police know what is up. Even in EP4 you see [sp]A few people clearly going against the system despite knowing what they're doing is wrong. Like the pharmacy clerk pointing the nail gun at the guy and the Inspector telling him not to.[/sp]
The show isn't only about officers at all, it's about the entire system itself.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;46395849]horror&action typically overlap with thriller, and horror+drama pretty much is a thriller most of the time
in relation to shinsekai yori
[sp]1) As kids, the main suspense is with those cat demon things
2) As adults, against the rat people
3) as the adult community, against the possibility/actuality of fiends
most of the story focuses around the small band of main characters doing their best to prevent their society from collapsing by themselves
the goal for most of the story is figuring out the rat people's plot, what the rat people actually are, and finding out what the fiends are.[/sp]
it pretty much lines up with a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28genre%29#Sub-genres_in_film]supernatural thriller[/url] thanks to their psychic powers.[/QUOTE]
ANN and MAL does not support Shinsekai as thriller, nothing on Anidb really tells me it is. I wouldn't know though since I haven't seen it myself.
What you're telling me does sound thrillerish though, anyone else that have seen Shinsekai Yori that will also back Heroicpillow on it being thriller?
[editline]3rd November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Reds;46395870]So is there going to be lots of hair-splitting over the categories or just a couple?[/QUOTE]
As many as needed.
If we're going by MAL we're going to need a Vampires category for the OP.
[QUOTE=ashxu;46395876]It is not irrelevant and ignoring it would be missing an important scene showing how the Psycho-Pass universe works. The public aren't mindless drones and only the police know what is up. Even in EP4 you see [sp]A few people clearly going against the system despite knowing what they're doing is wrong. Like the pharmacy clerk pointing the nail gun at the guy and the Inspector telling him not to.[/sp]
The show isn't only about officers at all, it's about the entire system itself.[/QUOTE]
It's completely irrelevant because we're discussing the actions of the officers and not the actions of the public.
[QUOTE=Reds;46395892]If we're going by MAL we're going to need a Vampires category for the OP.[/QUOTE]
ANN or MAL, it just needs to be on either one of them, ANN being more credible.
A general guidance though is that if it didn't even make it onto MAL then it's hard to believe it really is that, since MAL is so lenient on labeling things.
[QUOTE=dgg;46395877]ANN and MAL does not support Shinsekai as thriller, nothing on Anidb really tells me it is. I wouldn't know though since I haven't seen it myself.
What you're telling me does sound thrillerish though, anyone else that have seen Shinsekai Yori that will also back Heroicpillow on it being thriller?
[/QUOTE]
it could be seen as a thriller, not the best thriller mind you, but that's not what you asked.
[QUOTE=dgg;46395896]It's completely irrelevant because we're discussing the actions of the officers and not the actions of the public.[/QUOTE]
The only difference is they also enforce Sibyl. The public still has to make the same moral judgements as the officers and make the decision if they should put matters into their own hands.
I personally disagree with shinsekai yori being labeled horror, it never felt like a horror to me.
Well, Noein changed art styles again. Abruptly. In the middle of an episode. Now everything looks really rough and it looks like somebody gave flat shading to rough, uncleaned sketches, but everything is ridiculously fluidly animated.
if someone has one stupid vote on a show in wrong category does it really matter cause well nobody else will vote for that and its not gonna end up in the list in the wrong category after all the votes are counted
mal has "thriller" on "another" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[QUOTE=nnanna;46395937]if someone has one stupid vote on a show in wrong category does it really matter cause well nobody else will vote for that and its not gonna end up in the list in the wrong category after all the votes are counted[/QUOTE]
i voted for shinsekai yori in thriller as well, and dgg would have eventually gotten to my vote, so i may as well back it up now before it gets to that point
[QUOTE=ashxu;46395909]The only difference is they also enforce Sibyl. The public still has to make the same moral judgements as the officers and make the decision if they should put matters into their own hands.[/QUOTE]
Can you please for the love of god tell me what this has to do with the poor writing and dumb shit going on with the officers in ep3 and 4?
This is highly irrelevant to the discussion we were having and I have no idea why you are insisting on discussing the public which had nothing to do with the stupidity shown in ep3-4. The public did nothing stupid, the officers did.
[QUOTE=nnanna;46395937]if someone has one stupid vote on a show in wrong category does it really matter cause well nobody else will vote for that and its not gonna end up in the list in the wrong category after all the votes are counted[/QUOTE]
Just downright wrong.
[QUOTE=dgg;46395565][url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgdYRqGwIvawdFFIXzkxcTBoNmNIdmNsZVd6RXl3Mnc&usp=sharing]I'm above calling out people for such embarassements[/url]
[editline]3rd November 2014[/editline]
[B]Roflman[/B]
Shinsekai Yori is a horror drama, not a thriller, you will have to replace that vote with something else.[/QUOTE]
I felt like it was, more than it was a horror drama at least. I'll see if I can find something to replace it but I'd like to stick with it if I can.
[QUOTE=dgg;46395976]Just downright wrong.[/QUOTE]
does it really matter? if they get votes in wrong category and "accidentally" the vote counts because enough people voted for it there to end up in the OP then i think it really belongs there
Anyone know any better subs than Nubles for Space Battleship Yamato?
These are fucking awful, so many grammar errors, timing problems and other shit.
[QUOTE=Roflman;46396015]I felt like it was, more than it was a horror drama at least. I'll see if I can find something to replace it but I'd like to stick with it if I can.[/QUOTE]
This is where you explain why you think it's thriller, not where you bow down and just accept it.
[QUOTE=nnanna;46396040]does it really matter? if they get votes in wrong category and "accidentally" the vote counts because enough people voted for it there to end up in the OP then i think it really belongs there[/QUOTE]
It matters, because you shouldn't go into a show expecting action and then get a slapstick comedy.
[QUOTE=Calkkuna;46396052]Anyone know any better subs than Nubles for Space Battleship Yamato?
These are fucking awful, so many grammar errors, timing problems and other shit.[/QUOTE]
"femme" took nubles' and did extra QC on top of it
other than that no
[QUOTE=dgg;46396061]
It matters, because you shouldn't go into a show expecting action and then get a slapstick comedy.[/QUOTE]
nnanna's saying that if enough people "incorrectly" thought something was a good action when it's labeled slapstick comedy, that it might actually be a good action series since people thought it was.
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