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[QUOTE=hogofwar;46402365]Prisma Illya, Anime or manga? I would like to read the manga after the anime finishes, but not sure if I should watch the anime for the bits already adapted.[/QUOTE] I saw that one scene where the girls kissed each other and it was pretty hot. I recommend the anime just for that(haven't watched it)

The show and its viewerbase are all just a conspiracy to eventually annoy Winner in an extremely roundabout way.

Finally checked out Argevollen episode 1. That was pretty good. Lots of fighting.

[QUOTE=Reds;46405593]Bebop is like the most entry-level anime out there, if that can't get him in nothing will.[/QUOTE] On a related note; I've converted my brother to subbed anime. He's watching hyouka. I'm a proud oniichan.

[QUOTE=The Aussie;46406074]On a related note; I've converted my brother to subbed anime. He's watching hyouka. I'm a proud oniichan.[/QUOTE] Get him to watch Tatami Galaxy next to improve his reading skills.

[URL="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/111996868/2014-2/anime/akamegakut.JPG"]AgK mild spoils[/URL] How the fuck does that cut work? For a series with a reasonable side of service, I'm surprised they just let this one slide

[QUOTE=Hakita;46404718]fuck you man b gata h kei is great also change ping pong to Kokoro Connect and if i already voted for that then Sora no Woto and if that doesn't count as drama for some reason then fuck it just remove that vote from my list[/QUOTE] Haha, I love how people think I dislike B Gata H Kei just because I think it's a poor vote for Romance. It's a great comedy, but put down all romance shows down on a line and imagine picking out B Gata H Kei as a prime example of an excellent romance. [QUOTE=Reds;46405562]Just like there's no I in Team, there's no Moe in Competitive unless you're willing to do some serious word jumbling. Also Ping Pong is staying firmly in my drama section until you drag it from my cold dead tables.[/QUOTE] In other words you withdraw your vote instead of giving a drama show it's well deserved spot? :smile:

[QUOTE=dgg;46406322]Haha, I love how people think I dislike B Gata H Kei just because I think it's a poor vote for Romance. It's a great comedy, but put down all romance shows down on a line and imagine picking out B Gata H Kei as a prime example of an excellent romance.[/QUOTE] it's fantastic even if just because it goes where most romance tends to not go and shows the awkwardness of having sex for the first time most romances tend to end with just a confession and it is so flacid, so animes that show the actual relationship as well automatically get a ton of plus points taking on stuff like sex in a relationship is pretty fresh for a romance anime as well, so yeah, i'd consider it a good romance anime

[QUOTE=dgg;46406322] In other words you withdraw your vote instead of giving a drama show it's well deserved spot? :smile:[/QUOTE] I'm keeping it in drama because I'm not watching it as a competitive anime. At this point you have decided that sports and drama are one and the same. Therefore I'm saying that the competitive side is irrelevant. I'm not going to write another essay over this. By your logic, sports = drama. By this logic it is valid in both drama and sports by virtue of the fact that you're allowed to put one entry in the genre you watched it for. [editline]5th November 2014[/editline] If I can vote for, for lack of a better example, Eva in both the mecha and the psychological categories, then why can't I vote for Ping Pong in either competitive or drama? [editline]5th November 2014[/editline] Or are we playing double-standards and saying that this particular one is only allowed to be put in one category?

[QUOTE=Hakita;46406351]it's fantastic even if just because it goes where most romance tends to not go and shows the awkwardness of having sex for the first time most romances tend to end with just a confession and it is so flacid, so animes that show the actual relationship as well automatically get a ton of plus points taking on stuff like sex in a relationship is pretty fresh for a romance anime as well, so yeah, i'd consider it a good romance anime[/QUOTE] Itazura na Kiss. Clannad. [editline]4th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Reds;46406360]I'm keeping it in drama because I'm not watching it as a competitive anime. At this point you have decided that sports and drama are one and the same. Therefore I'm saying that the competitive side is irrelevant. I'm not going to write another essay over this. By your logic, sports = drama. By this logic it is valid in both drama and sports by virtue of the fact that you're allowed to put one entry in the genre you watched it for. [editline]5th November 2014[/editline] If I can vote for, for lack of a better example, Eva in both the mecha and the psychological categories, then why can't I vote for Ping Pong in either competitive or drama? [editline]5th November 2014[/editline] Or are we playing double-standards and saying that this particular one is only allowed to be put in one category?[/QUOTE] Because Ping Pong isn't a drama. It's a sports show. The drama is inherently connected to the fact that it's a sportsdrama. Arguing that Ping Pong should be allowed to be voted for in drama is like arguing that a supernatural show should be allowed to be voted for in fantasy. Sports is a subgenre of drama, supernatural is a subgenre of fantasy. The subgenre exists for a reason.

[QUOTE=dgg;46406432]Itazura na Kiss.[/QUOTE] wow holy shit one entire anime i see that b gata h kei is an awful shitty romance now all of that is completely invalidated by the fact that there's a single other anime that also touches on similar subjects!!

[QUOTE=dgg;46406432] [B]Sports is a subgenre of drama[/B], supernatural is a subgenre of fantasy. The subgenre exists for a reason.[/QUOTE] Just because A crossing with B creates C does not mean B and A and one and the same, man.

[QUOTE=Hakita;46406455]wow holy shit one entire anime i see that b gata h kei is an awful shitty romance now all of that is completely invalidated by the fact that there's a single other anime that also touches on similar subjects!![/QUOTE] Yes, that was certainly what I was implying. Itazura na Kiss takes the relationship from meeting for the first time to marriage, moving out, having a job and a kid. Clannad After Story does pretty much the same. I personally don't see how B Gata H Kei makes for a good romance in comparision to all those other romances out there that focuses exclusively on the romance, and isn't a perverted comedy at the core. [editline]4th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=maxumym;46406459]Just because A crossing with B creates C does not mean B and A and one and the same, man.[/QUOTE] B and A are one and the same because they are bound together. Remove the drama from Ping Pong and there would be nothing to show. Remove the sport from Ping Pong and there would be no drama. The drama is exclusively tied to the sport and it's impact on their lives. It's exclusively a sportsdrama, it's not a straight up drama.

[QUOTE=dgg;46406461]Yes, that was certainly what I was implying.[/QUOTE] i can definitely see that, good thing i corrected you or you might've made a fool of yourself

But you're saying all sports shows are watched because of their drama element. They are not. I didn't watch Saki for drama, I didn't watch Build Fighters for drama, I didn't watch Kaiji for drama either. I watched them for their competitive aspect, and that's why I put them in Competitive. Ping Pong though I watched and enjoyed because of its character-driven drama element, which prevails significantly over its competitive element, which is why I put it in Drama.

[QUOTE=maxumym;46406488]But you're saying all sports shows are watched because of their drama element. They are not. I didn't watch Saki for drama, I didn't watch Build Fighters for drama, I didn't watch Kaiji for drama either. I watched them for their competitive aspect, and that's why I put them in Competitive. Ping Pong though I watched and enjoyed because of its character-driven drama element, which prevails significantly over its competitive element, which is why I put it in Drama.[/QUOTE] No, I'm saying all sports shows have drama, some more than others. Ping Pong isn't officially labeled as a drama, because Ping Pong isn't a drama, it's a sports show, the drama is inherent to being a sportsdrama. Competetive is an umbrella term that covers both sportsdramas and shows that are competetive in nature.

[QUOTE=dgg;46406432] Because Ping Pong isn't a drama. It's a sports show. The drama is inherently connected to the fact that it's a sportsdrama. Arguing that Ping Pong should be allowed to be voted for in drama is like arguing that a supernatural show should be allowed to be voted for in fantasy. Sports is a subgenre of drama, supernatural is a subgenre of fantasy. The subgenre exists for a reason.[/QUOTE] aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH DO YOU READ YOUR OWN FUCKING POSTS Ok, I'm gonna get this out of the way first. [QUOTE=dgg;46406432] Because Ping Pong isn't a drama. It's a sports show. Sports is a subgenre of drama[/QUOTE] And then [QUOTE=dgg;46406432] The drama is inherently connected to the fact that it's a sportsdrama. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=dgg;46406432] sportsdrama. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=dgg;46406432] sport[B]drama.[/B] [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=dgg;46406432] [highlight][I][B]drama.[/B][/I][/highlight] [/QUOTE] Ok, let's move on. [QUOTE=dgg;46406432] Arguing that Ping Pong should be allowed to be voted for in drama is like arguing that a supernatural show should be allowed to be voted for in fantasy. Sports is a subgenre of drama, supernatural is a subgenre of fantasy. The subgenre exists for a reason.[/QUOTE] Your argument [I]inherently states that sports is drama[/I], but attempts to say that because sports and drama are one and the same, it only counts as sports. Do you realise how fucking ridiculous that sounds? To use the post you made after I typed up most of this part previous to here, you argue that because A and B are the same, only A is valid. Your argument is inherently hypocritical because A and B are two entirely different entities, you acknowledge it as such, and say that A requires B to exist, but B does not require A to exist. B being drama, A being sports. By this logic, B overrides A and should thus be valid to as vote for drama. Also, what a fucking awful example you picked. We just had a [I]whole discussion[/I] about how while supernatural shares concepts and elements with fantasy, it's inherently different due to the handling of it. Thus supernatural does not fantasy make, nor does fantasy make supernatural. I don't know what the hell you're getting at there. I can't wait for you to fixate on this part of my post. Please don't, because it's mostly irrelevant to the argument. [QUOTE=dgg;46406461] B and A are one and the same because they are bound together. Remove the drama from Ping Pong and there would be nothing to show. Remove the sport from Ping Pong and there would be no drama. The drama is exclusively tied to the sport and it's impact on their lives. It's exclusively a sportsdrama, it's not a straight up drama.[/QUOTE] I'm gonna boil down your logic again. Sports = drama. Sports needs drama to live. Therefore by this logic drama is the dominant half. But sports invalidates being counted as drama despite every single part of your argument stating that sports is drama. Your argument is fundamentally fucking broken on so many levels it's pathetic to watch and I could spend years telling you why over and over and fucking over and you cannot seem to comprehend why. So convince me why I'm wrong. I fucking dare you to try to not embarrass yourself any further.

wow y dont we hav manga vote too, anim sux

i want manga vote dgg clearly deserves more vote counting he seems to be so excited with all this nitpicking and nonsense like a little puppy =3= [editline]4th November 2014[/editline] #mangavote2k15

[QUOTE=dgg;46406503]No, I'm saying all sports shows have drama, some more than others. Ping Pong isn't officially labeled as a drama, because Ping Pong isn't a drama, it's a sports show, the drama is inherent to being a sportsdrama. Competetive is an umbrella term that covers both sportsdramas and shows that are competitive in nature.[/QUOTE] You made this post, but I don't really need to cover it. It just repeats the part where drama is the dominant half of sports. Sports leeches off of drama like a weird conceptual parasite. Again, this is the part I don't get. Sports is drama. But I'm not allowed to thus put sports in drama because your argument states that drama is more important, and I feel that in Ping Pong, the drama aspect is 90% of the show as opposed to the focus on the sports aspect. I can't understand where you're trying to go with this. It's inherently broken.

people who read the mangoes are smart enough to not have to rely on popular opinions to find mangoes they like :)

[QUOTE=Winner;46405879]i only watched one episode before dropping it because as far as i can tell it's just loli fanservice loosely based on the type-moon universe[/QUOTE] it had stupid sexy angry gil which makes it worth it

hey, if i collect the votes and make an OP faster than dgg can we make that one the OP it'll have blackjack and waifus

[QUOTE=Reds;46406518]aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH DO YOU READ YOUR OWN FUCKING POSTS Ok, I'm gonna get this out of the way first. And then Ok, let's move on. Your argument [I]inherently states that sports is drama[/I], but attempts to say that because sports and drama are one and the same, it only counts as sports. Do you realise how fucking ridiculous that sounds? To use the post you made after I typed up most of this part previous to here, you argue that because A and B are the same, only A is valid. Your argument is inherently hypocritical because A and B are two entirely different entities, you acknowledge it as such, and say that A requires B to exist, but B does not require A to exist. B being drama, A being sports. By this logic, B overrides A and should thus be valid to as vote for drama. Also, what a fucking awful example you picked. We just had a [I]whole discussion[/I] about how while supernatural shares concepts and elements with fantasy, it's inherently different due to the handling of it. Thus supernatural does not fantasy make, nor does fantasy make supernatural. I don't know what the hell you're getting at there. I can't wait for you to fixate on this part of my post. Please don't, because it's mostly irrelevant to the argument. I'm gonna boil down your logic again. Sports = drama. Sports needs drama to live. Therefore by this logic drama is the dominant half. But sports invalidates being counted as drama despite every single part of your argument stating that sports is drama. Your argument is fundamentally fucking broken on so many levels it's pathetic to watch and I could spend years telling you why over and over and fucking over and you cannot seem to comprehend why. So convince me why I'm wrong. I fucking dare you to try to not embarrass yourself any further.[/QUOTE] Supernatural is a subgenre of fantasy, a supernatural show is technically fantasy because it has fantasy elements in it. However they are different enough to warrant seperation. Likewise a sportsdrama is a subgenre of drama because the drama that is present in a sports-show is all character-driven drama that is related to the sport and the characters relation to said sport. Sportsdrama is a specific subgenre because it's different enough to warrant it's own label. Said subgenre is merged into the umbrella term "competetive" because we wanted to include more than just sports-shows since it's not a popular genre amongst us. A "drama" does not restrict itself to any theme, profession or goals. A sportsdrama has all of it's drama come from the sport itself and the characters interaction with it. I will repeat this till the end of time. Ping Pong's drama can only exist and live within a sports environment, you literally can't have the characters not participate in some sport and keep the story and drama. This is why it can't simply be considered a drama, but has to be considered a sportsdrama, a genre we have a category for. Clannad's drama could exist in any possible setting and theme you could ever dream of, because the drama comes from exterior sources. Somebody's parents, somebody's genetics, somebody's backstory, a different fucking planet. If Clannad was set in a fire department in 1857 it could still have the exact same story, keeping the drama. Have the characters in Ping Pong be lawyers and all of the drama would vanish and it would have to be completely rewritten and altered to adjust to the new environment.

dgg, let me just say this in advance, you have flown so far off the mark you're floating somewhere around Pluto and still gaining speed right now. Because that's not the fucking point and I refuse to believe that you're stupid enough to not know that. That has less than nothing to do with anything I've said. That has nothing to do with how it should be categorised. That post like a black hole of stupidity, sucking any and all logical points that have been made in and ignoring them in favour of something that couldn't be less relevant if it tried. [editline]5th November 2014[/editline] Give me a minute to stop slamming my head against my desk while I formulate a calm and measured response.

[QUOTE=Reds;46406603]dgg, let me just say this in advance, you have flown so far off the mark you're floating somewhere around Pluto and still gaining speed right now. Because that's not the fucking point and I refuse to believe that you're stupid enough to not know that.[/QUOTE] It is the fucking point and I can't belive you can't see that. You could defend supernatural for being a subgenre that has exclusive shows that could not be labeled as fantasy. Yet you can't see that a sportsdrama can have exclusive shows that could not be labeled as drama. You're accusing me of having double standards, personally I see it the other way around. I fucking love Ping Pong, I absolutely watched it for the drama, but it's not officially recognized as a drama, nor is it a drama, it's a sportsdrama, a specific genre. Had it been officially labeled as a drama I wouldn't have any qualms with letting it go, as I do with many other shows that I just shake my heads on wondering how the heck it even got labeled as such. Ping Pong hasn't been labeled as drama however, because there is a more correct classifcations for it, sports.

[QUOTE=dgg;46406617]It is the fucking point and I can't belive you can't see that. You could defend supernatural for being a subgenre that has exclusive shows that could not be labeled as fantasy. Yet you can't see that a sportsdrama can have exclusive shows that could not be labeled as drama. You're accusing me of having double standards, personally I see it the other way around. I fucking love Ping Pong, I absolutely watched it for the drama, but it's not officially recognized as a drama, nor is it a drama, it's a sportsdrama, a specific genre.[/QUOTE] SINCE WHEN HAS SPORTSDRAMA BEEN A GENRE THAT'S NOT ON MAL OR ANN THE LAST TIME I CHECKED Give me a minute, you're posting faster than I can respond. [editline]5th November 2014[/editline] I need time to explain how dumb your argument is. I am going to punch this wall of diamond until it breaks, dammit.

[QUOTE=Reds;46406625]SINCE WHEN HAS SPORTSDRAMA BEEN A GENRE THAT'S NOT ON MAL OR ANN THE LAST TIME I CHECKED Give me a minute, you're posting faster than I can respond.[/QUOTE] Did you lose track on what we're arguing or something? Sportsdrama is exactly the reason why it's not "drama", it's "sports".

[QUOTE=dgg;46406617]It is the fucking point and I can't belive you can't see that. You could defend supernatural for being a subgenre that has exclusive shows that could not be labeled as fantasy. Yet you can't see that a sportsdrama can have exclusive shows that could not be labeled as drama. [/QUOTE] But you're saying no sportsdrama can be labeled as drama, because the entire drama part of it would vanish without the sport tying it together.

[QUOTE=maxumym;46406645]But you're saying no sportsdrama can be labeled as drama, because the entire drama part of it would vanish without the sport tying it together.[/QUOTE] A show that is only sportsdrama can't be labeled as drama, because it's a sportsdrama. A show can be both a drama and a sports show at the same time. It would require the show to have drama that exists independent of the sports. A simplistic example would be somebody struggling with their sports career, trying to improve but feeling like he just can't do it (sportsdram), and at the same time there is this whole family feud going on in his life that he has to deal with (drama).