[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;46411740]when voting we only get a spot for 3 anime per category, and i normally have to trim off multiple per category so the ones i actually do vote for i actually had to selectively choose which ones i thought fit best. i'd assume most people do the same at least in a few categories
and just because 2 people don't vote for it doesn't mean that someone didn't think that "damn i really think people should watch this for X category" so at least being able to browse through a concise recommendation list could be helpful even if only one person has seen/voted for it.
if something doesn't get two votes it either means "it's shit and that person who voted for it is dumb" or "not many people have seen it but it's probably good enough to spend one of their recommendation slots on"
i'll just save the link when you're done i guess??
i just thought it would be trivial to add a small link to it in case anyone was curious on the hard data that went into the OP[/QUOTE]
No, the whole point is to have the cream of the top recommandations that you can't really go too wrong with, whilst still retaining some variety.
[QUOTE=Winner;46411791]orkle fuckin stole the op from me for dgg[/QUOTE]
That's because I'm 10x cooler than you.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;46411740]when voting we only get a spot for 3 anime per category, and i normally have to trim off multiple per category so the ones i actually do vote for i actually had to selectively choose which ones i thought fit best. i'd assume most people do the same at least in a few categories
and just because 2 people don't vote for it doesn't mean that someone didn't think that "damn i really think people should watch this for X category" so at least being able to browse through a concise recommendation list could be helpful even if only one person has seen/voted for it.
if something doesn't get two votes it either means "it's shit and that person who voted for it is dumb" or "not many people have seen it but it's probably good enough to spend one of their recommendation slots on"
i'll just save the link when you're done i guess??
i just thought it would be trivial to add a small link to it in case anyone was curious on the hard data that went into the OP[/QUOTE]
dggs logic makes sense to me.
I'd rather miss out on 2-3 recs that should be in the OP to cull out the 20+ recs that shouldn't be there at all. And once you get subjective and say 'oh this got one vote but I think it's good enough to put in so I'll add it' you completely ruin the point.
Say what you want about dgg he is ultimately pretty fair with these votes. While his posts in the thread are always trying to convince people to vote how he wants, ultimately he doesn't disregard any votes or bias the results.
[editline]5th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;46411792]I was gonna vote for nanoha but then I voted for chaika instead because I LEGITIMATELY THINK IT'S A GREAT FANTASY SHOW IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH WHEN IT AIRED REDS.
kill la kill's clothing gimmick isn't what makes it weird, it's the entire style of the show.[/QUOTE]
I think nanoha's problem is it's hard to recommend it.
S2 and the movies are amazing, but s1 is very very very 'ehhhhhhh'
Idk, I think it deserves more love, I haven't watched anything like it. Even strikers is pretty cool.
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;46411792]I was gonna vote for nanoha but then I voted for chaika instead because I LEGITIMATELY THINK IT'S A GREAT FANTASY SHOW IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH WHEN IT AIRED REDS.[/QUOTE]
I never said that [I]everybody[/I] is a pleb. I think Chaika is great, I just doubt it'd be top of the pile were it not for previously-mentioned pleb status of many in Fast Anime.
I hope whoever does the sound muxing for Akatsuki no Yona get some serious reprimanding because the music is just too damn loud.
nanoha s1 was awful
just tell people to watch the movies instead
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;46411806]dggs logic makes sense to me.
I'd rather miss out on 2-3 recs that should be in the OP to cull out the 20+ recs that shouldn't be there at all. And once you get subjective and say 'oh this got one vote but I think it's good enough to put in so I'll add it' you completely ruin the point.[/QUOTE]
um i'm completely fine with the 2 vote recommendation amount
all i wanted was this
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2rKKvrh.png[/img]
optionally with a disclaimer saying that the ones with 1 vote are possibly shit
just a simple link to the google docs he linked to us just recently to verify that our votes were all there
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;46411852]um i'm completely fine with the 2 vote recommendation amount
all i wanted was this
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2rKKvrh.png[/img][/QUOTE]
no
I wish I didn't vote for No Game No Life, I would rather have Ippo or Build fighters be in top 3 competitive.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;46411806]
I think nanoha's problem is it's hard to recommend it.
S2 and the movies are amazing, but s1 is very very very 'ehhhhhhh'
Idk, I think it deserves more love, I haven't watched anything like it. Even strikers is pretty cool.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty hype for the ViVid anime.
also I liked s1 there wasn't anything wrong with it imo.
[QUOTE=Garlickeh;46411836]nanoha s1 was awful
just tell people to watch the movies instead[/QUOTE]
Nanoha s1 is fucking amazing towards the end.
The first few episodes and the fillers are trash though I ain't gonna argue it.
I dunno about you but once I hear Stand-By-Ready I can't help but get hyped as fuck.
[QUOTE=igamiwarr;46411872]I wish I didn't vote for No Game No Life, I would rather have Ippo or Build fighters be in top 3 competitive.[/QUOTE]
You're allowed to change your vote, it's not too late.
I assume so anyway.
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;46411879]I'm pretty hype for the ViVid anime.
also I liked s1 there wasn't anything wrong with it imo.[/QUOTE]
I got 2 chapters into vivid and wanted to gouge my own eyes out. Jesus christ it was so bad. Why the fuck is vivios device a teddy bear, and why does she turn into an adult when she uses magic, two things that are completely different to the rest of the continuity and make no sense whatsoever.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;46411902]I got 2 chapters into vivid and wanted to gouge my own eyes out. Jesus christ it was so bad. Why the fuck is vivios device a teddy bear, and why does she turn into an adult when she uses magic, two things that are completely different to the rest of the continuity and make no sense whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
I'm still hype for more nanoha.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;46411887]Nanoha s1 is fucking amazing towards the end.
The first few episodes and the fillers are trash though I ain't gonna argue it.
I dunno about you but once I hear Stand-By-Ready I can't help but get hyped as fuck.[/QUOTE]
The first movie is an improvement in almost every regard imo
[QUOTE=koeniginator;46411915]The first movie is an improvement in almost every regard imo[/QUOTE]
I don't disagree, but I think you should watch the series first.
It makes the movies even better when you see where they came from.
I mean if you really wanna skip it I wouldn't hold it against you, but I feel like I enjoyed the movies 10x more because I watched the series first.
[QUOTE=Reds;46411896]You're allowed to change your vote, it's not too late.
I assume so anyway.[/QUOTE]
It's been too late since the deadline.
Changes can only be made now when necessary.
[QUOTE=dgg;46412006]It's been too late since the deadline.
Changes can only be made now when necessary.[/QUOTE]
Can I make the argument that No Game No Life belongs in a different category so I have to change my vote to Build Fighters?
It belongs in Drama for sure.
Oh my fucking god dub Nyanta's voice.
[vid]http://a.pomf.se/cayqhj.webm[/vid]
[QUOTE=maxumym;46412053]Oh my fucking god dub Nyanta's voice.
[vid]http://a.pomf.se/cayqhj.webm[/vid][/QUOTE]
I legitimately hope this is real and not a joke. It's so ludicrously unfitting it's amazing.
Is there an abbreviation for the new trigger anime yet?
[QUOTE=The Worm;46412096]Is there an abbreviation for the new trigger anime yet?[/QUOTE]
From what I know, the code word for it is "mediocre"
[QUOTE=maxumym;46412053]Oh my fucking god dub Nyanta's voice.[/QUOTE]
At least Jovan Jackson is delivering a smooth soothing voice if nothing else.
[quote]nyanta webm[/quote]
The massive massive pause between "I'm back home" and the nya fucking makes it.
So good.
[QUOTE=maxumym;46412053]Oh my fucking god dub Nyanta's voice.
nya[/QUOTE]
holy shit is this real I'm dying of laughter.
[QUOTE=dgg;46410523]When did Shinsekai Yori become the new Clannad anyways? Drama, Supernatural, Fantasy, Thriller, Psychological and Science Fiction.
Can I point out that The Aussie went as far as voting for it in Drama, Psychological, Science Fiction and Supernatural as if he found it to excel in all of those things at the same time? I have problems believing it executed all 4 of those things at the same time so well it beats everything else. I understand voting for the same show in 2 different categories, but 4? Really? Is it really being voted for because you think it's really good for that classification it belongs to, or are you simply voting for it in those classifcations becuase you think it's a great show?
I haven't seen it myself so it might very well be just that fucking good, but I just find it hard to believe.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how well it fits into Sci Fi. It can be very scientific at times, and treats its psychic powers as if they were a science, but it doesn't really deal with technology. It's like that saying, "any rigorously defined magic is indistinguishable from technology".
Votes for it being Fantasy are just due to confusing supernatural and fantasy.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;46410699]It seriously nails every category. Except maybe psychological?
I'd say it solidly fits under Scifi, Thriller and Supernatural.
Secondarily it fits under Drama, but drama is hard to specifically pin down so I dunno.
But yeah, it actually does hit the nail on the head for fucking everything.
Oh and to prove we're not fanboying it, the romance in SSY is fucking terrible [sp]and not just because half of it is gay. It's just straight up not very well executed, though it does have plot and setting relevance, all the romantic subplot in the first half is both irrelevant and not that interesting.[/sp]
EDIT: thinking about it, I wouldn't say psychological is a focus, but there's a good amount of it in there. Like there's a heavy element of [sp]human mental conditioning[/sp] but at the same time it's not really the focus as much as it is in other shows. Ehh I dunno how to put it in words.
I guess one way of putting it is in other shows with psychological elements, the psychological elements drive the plot, whereas in SSY they are more a part of the setting and backstory than the actual shows plot [sp]which is focussed on squealer's rise and fall[/sp][/QUOTE]
I put it under psychological not because of how it deals with individual psychologies, but instead due to how it deals with humanity's psychology as a whole [sp]and how they changed it through conditioning.[/sp]
That's my same reasoning for putting Gatchaman Crowds in there. It's only sorta good for "what are these individual people thinking and what's driving them", but where it shines is how it uses internet psychology, gamification, identity theft, trolls, etc. It's seriously one of the few shows that actually gets how people act on the internet most of the time.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;46410918]cantus is supernatural tbh at least that's what i got from the anime
and i never read the novel so why would you bring that up when we're talking about the anime...
although i now remember a scene where [sp]that lady kept herself young by refreshing her telomeres so that's pretty scifi[/sp]
i was one of the few people who watched it while airing so there's probably some other portions i'm forgetting...[/QUOTE]
[sp]She does that through the psychic abilities though, not through technology.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;46410904]List of things in SSY that are scifi:
[sp]Queerats
Cantus
Human Conditioning
Societal Engineering
The Data entities
They fucking try to kill the fiend with literal Anthrax
Everything[/sp]
Just because it's not in space doesn't make it not scifi. It's mostly based on real science [sp]except cantus obviously[/sp] which is literally the qualifier for what is and isn't scifi. And it's damn good scifi too, the only things I can compare it to is Ringworld and some of Foundation. Those are a little bit better in my opinion but they're also novels and I haven't read SSY so it might actually stand up.[/QUOTE]
Just because it references science doesn't mean it's science fiction. [sp]And just because it has anthrax doesn't mean it's sci fi, either.[/sp]
I thought the qualifier for sci fi was advanced or alternate technology? Using psychic powers and row boats isn't really alternate technology. [sp]The most advanced thing they use is a very basic submarine.[/sp]
[QUOTE=NotMeh;46410869]I like how you completely ignored Cantus even though [sp]it's a genetically engineered superpower, explained with an enormous amount of pseudoscientific technobabble in the novel[/sp]
but yes, SSY would fit more into something like 'speculative fiction'[/QUOTE]
They don't go into much detail about [sp]the scientific origins of it[/sp] in the show though, just the novel.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;46410963]Actually, we don't even need the novel for this
[sp] The Fake Minoshiro clearly explained that it as an ability first called 'psychokinesis' and created by 'scientists' (allegedly the same ones who would later introduce death feedback, a genetically engineered anti-murder system) [/sp]
Is this enough for you?[/QUOTE]
That's only a few lines at most, though. It doesn't go into very much detail about it.
Putting Shin Sekai Yori in science fiction feels really odd. Sure, it does get very scientific in parts, but people looking for sci fi like GitS and Psycho-Pass are going to see SYY and go "what's this rowboat bullshit, when are the aliens gonna drop in".
[QUOTE=Reds;46411540]Ugh, Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita has Outbreak Company syndrome written all over it, albeit not nearly as bad of a case and still infinitely more valid.
If anybody wants some salt on their meal just come right over here, I can help you with that.[/QUOTE]
Outbreak Company syndrome?
[QUOTE=dgg;46411276]Last or First, Titopei, Winner, Zombii and Trunk Monkay are the only ones remaining, I'll go over those tomorrow and fix up all the errors, check that every vote is present, correct and counted for.[/QUOTE]
I hope you don't take my example vote as 'offensive imagery' or some insult.
It's an example, it's directed at no one in particular. [del]because no one in their right minds would recommend pupa, and if you do recommend it, you're fucking stupid[/del]
[QUOTE=maxumym;46412053]Oh my fucking god dub Nyanta's voice.
"hey serara, how ya doin baby"][/QUOTE]
When the black cat crosses your path, you don't go back.
Scifi is just a story that follows science to a hefty degree. In SSY it's borderline but in my opinion it fits under scifi because although cantus is ridiculous, there are still firm rules in play and everything happens for a reason. The system has rules that mimic our universe, and only a few breaks exist to change it from ours to theirs (in SSY's case, it's cantus, in a lot of other shows it's FTL technology or simply advanced technology)
One example of scifi that I really liked was a series called Amtrak wars, where an empire based on technology fights to exterminate widespread tribes of humans who have been mutated by a radioactive earth, and gain powers through that. No space or anything, still scifi.
I'd also argue stuff like STALKER is scifi (or supernatural, it does blur the lines) similarly with Metro 2033, and to me SSY just feels like it's taken settings like those and taken it a logical step, that is to say [sp]STALKER and friends take place immediately after the event that changes humanities fate, while SSY takes place thousands of years after, so we see the society that has rebuilt itself around the new rules of the world[/sp]
Scifi is generally about advanced technology, but in SSY it's more about advanced manipulation of [sp]society and human nature. It's a glimpse into an alternate reality and we see the society and how it functions. Just as say, Ghost in the Shell shows us the ramifications of a society where the line between a person and data begin to blur and fade, SSY shows us the ramifications of a society where everyone has the powers of a god at their fingertips.[/sp]
Is it bad that I spent the entirety of Tamako Market and Love Story waiting for [sp]Midori to fess up her feelings for Tamako too?[/sp]
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;46412767]Is it bad that I spent the entirety of Tamako Market and Love Story waiting for [sp]Midori to fess up her feelings for Tamako too?[/sp][/QUOTE]
yes
I love how you got an older-gentlemen in the original to a smooth black guy for Nyanta in the dub. That is just so wrong it's great.
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