[QUOTE=titopei;46418665]is there a link to current results[/QUOTE]
[url]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgdYRqGwIvawdFFIXzkxcTBoNmNIdmNsZVd6RXl3Mnc&usp=sharing#gid=0[/url]
[QUOTE=dgg;46417975]And out of Kuchuu Buranko, FLCL and Panty & Stocking, which would you replace for Dokuro-chan when they are all better WTF experiences than Bokusatsu?[/QUOTE]
probably flcl because even if i didn't vote for it literally everybody else does
and most people (who browse FP) know it from toonami even if it wasn't in the OP
(same could be said for P&S tbh but i don't think it's aired on western television at all, so i may just flip a coin but probably sticking with flcl??)
bokusatsu always was my imaginary 4th slot in wtf regardless
[QUOTE=Frankess;46418179]Friend made me watch Suisei no Gargantia. First of all I'm not a big fan of Mecha and giga-robo-fighting-stuff. Only mecha anime I checked so far was TTGL (and it was awesome). First two episodes made whole show look really promising.... and that's all. I gonna do something probably stupid because I want to compare this anime with Shinsekoi Yori (it's all because of 9th episode). SY is better. SnG has better art style, voice actors, probably music too ("Traditional Song Of Shadows" from SY OST is awesome but it's just one piece of track repeated through whole show). But when it comes to story and how it's told, and how we see people react to what is happening, SY is much superior. Suisei no Gargantia 7/10. Please don't kill me.[/QUOTE]
I liked it, gave a 8.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;46418756]probably flcl because even if i didn't vote for it literally everybody else does
and most people (who browse FP) know it from toonami even if it wasn't in the OP
(same could be said for P&S tbh but i don't think it's aired on western television at all, so i may just flip a coin but probably sticking with flcl??)
bokusatsu always was my imaginary 4th slot in wtf regardless[/QUOTE]
I think voting based on what other will vote is a scummy and wrong way to vote.
It should be your personal best 3 within the category that you would recommend. I have at times made my vote after having everybody elses votes in (this time as well), I think once I had even counted up everybody's votes before I even voted myself (oh the benefits of arranging it), I still voted for shows that nobody had voted for, because they were my personal best recommandations for the genre, I also voted for shows that were winning by a mile, because I too thought it was the best. What others vote should never be a factor for what you vote.
If the OP ended up only consisting of the top 3 votes (nobody voted for anything else but the same 3 shows), that wouldn't be a bad thing, that would just support the fact that they are the best possible shows you could watch for that genre.
The OP is an introduction and guide for people wanting to pick up anime. The point is to deliver them with the absolute best shows that should be universably enjoyable. Whilst I personally absolutely love it when people vote for something I've never heard of, or something unusual, and I want variety in the OP, I don't want variety to come from peoples 4th, 5th or 6th best picks, I want it to come from the top 3 picks they could make.
Universally enjoyable anime can only be decided on if people end up voting for the same thing. If people started not voting on something because they believe others will vote for it, it ruins the system, and it also puts the show at risk of not actually getting the spot after all, and then suddenly it's like "what the hell, why isn't THAT show on the list?" "Well, everyone thought everyone else would vote for it, so they voted for something that wasn't as good, just to get their other votes in".
[QUOTE=Calkkuna;46415606]It is now official, booked the flights to Japan with my friends today.
Going there July next year, damn that's a long time from now.[/QUOTE]
That's really far in advance
I'm going there again in December and I might be going again in February for reasons
[QUOTE=dgg;46418274]Yeah that just sounds like any show. Conquering the enemy by being smart and "taking over their territory" without them even noticing is just tactics.
You'll have to replace that vote or withdraw it.[/QUOTE]
I think you misread the spoiler. I didn't mean "oh, we were stealthy and attacked", I mean [sp]"Why were they attacking us?" "They didn't realize we were sentient life, to them we just looked like ants. Once we showed them that we can think and create rather than just attack in retaliation like soldier ants, they realized we were sentient and apologized."[/sp]
That explanation sounds weird if you don't know that the MESS are floating neon cube arrangements that can't even normally be seen by humans.
And withdraw that vote. I can't think of anything else to vote for in that section, at least nothing that already has another vote.
[QUOTE=dgg;46417654]rghyjhk[/QUOTE]
Okay... move my ping pong vote to competitive in that case.
[QUOTE=Last or First;46419053]I think you misread the spoiler. I didn't mean "oh, we were stealthy and attacked", I mean [sp]"Why were they attacking us?" "They didn't realize we were sentient life, to them we just looked like ants. Once we showed them that we can think and create rather than just attack in retaliation like soldier ants, they realized we were sentient and apologized."[/sp]
That explanation sounds weird if you don't know that the MESS are floating neon cube arrangements that can't even normally be seen by humans.
And withdraw that vote. I can't think of anything else to vote for in that section, at least nothing that already has another vote.[/QUOTE]
I think you missunderstood mine to be talking about an actual attack. I meant it more like taking over an organization under their nose, doing the work behind the curtains, and when they've finally realized it's already too late. Thinking of you as no threat, and then suddenly you've lost it all to those who you never even considered to be worth thinking about.
But ultimately you meant the whole ant thing to be more literal than I thought so it was still a missinterpretation.
[QUOTE=dgg;46418918]I think voting based on what other will vote is a scummy and wrong way to vote.
[..][/QUOTE]
well i personally think the "wtf" in dokuro-chan is equal to P&S although the ecchi content in dokuro-chan lowered the rating for me so i normally just default to putting P&S in there. (but P&S still has ecchi just slightly less...). for most categories i have like 5-8 series that i'd legit equally recommend to put into that category but i normally just toss a coin to decide which ones i should put in there for every vote.
the reason why i said i would prob remove FLCL is not primarily because other people are voting for it (although that's certainly a plus) it's mainly due to that fact that a large majority of people have heard of it. then again a lot of people have heard of death note yet i still vote for that everytime because it's one of the best examples of anime psychological thriller
dokuro-chan was the first anime i watched outside of pokemon so i'd say it's pretty entry-level in that regard since my life was all downhill from that point
although
[quote=dgg;41991972]I also will have to remind you guys that everyone are entitled to vote, and it will stay that way, and because of that you can't expect that all those fancy smanchy edgy and deep hipster shows you've watched don't make it into the top 3 placement.
[/quote]
it's hard for me to choose only 3 and most of the time i end up choosing edgy deep hipster anime that nobody else chooses which essentially just throws my vote away. i recommend them because i feel that literally everyone could enjoy them, but when nobody else has seen them yet nobody else will vote for them. it's like what reds was talking about the fantasy category earlier (although i still think 12 kingdoms would be a bad choice, but that's my opinion and i've actually seen it so it's my choice), they're good shows and most people would enjoy them but because they're super hipster or people's 3 slots were already taken up by other shows they couldn't vote for them.
back when shinsekai yori first aired and not many people watched it yet, i really wanted everybody to watch it; so anytime someone asked for a recommendation for something to watch i always [i]shoved[/i] it down everyone's throats proclaiming how amazing it is at every opportunity. now it's in pretty much every category slot with multiple people trying to defend it in every slot without me having to even vote for it. that also happened to some extent with jinrui & haibane renmei.
i'd say i already fucked up the system plenty so letting my votes go to a random coin toss due to how limited my slots are couldn't hurt it much more tbh
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;46419159]well i personally think the "wtf" in dokuro-chan is equal to P&S although the ecchi content in dokuro-chan lowered the rating for me so i normally just default to putting P&S in there. (but P&S still has ecchi just slightly less...). for most categories i have like 5-8 series that i'd legit equally recommend to put into that category but i normally just toss a coin to decide which ones i should put in there for every vote.
the reason why i said i would prob remove FLCL is not primarily because other people are voting for it (although that's certainly a plus) it's mainly due to that fact that a large majority of people have heard of it. then again a lot of people have heard of death note yet i still vote for that everytime because it's one of the best examples of anime psychological thriller
dokuro-chan was the first anime i watched outside of pokemon so i'd say it's pretty entry-level in that regard since my life was all downhill from that point[/QUOTE]
It's like you're implying most of us don't have this giant list of shows we have to sacrifice in order to single out only 3 shows. That's the point, it's the cream of the crop, you have to give it some serious thought and sacrifice other shows that are also amazing, just not [I]as[/I] amazing.
Not voting for FLCL because "it's well known" is the exact same problematic attitude as "other people are voting for it", it's almost the exact same reason, it's silly for the exact same reason. It's supposed to be the best of the best, if you think FLCL is the best, then you should keep voting for FLCL until a better show comes around that assures you that "yes, FLCL ain't got shit on the wackyweirdass shit going on in this show".
The OP is for newcomers, that is not to say it's supposed to be "top entry level shows" or "top shows you may not have heard of", it's supposed to be "the best shows". A list of the best shows is in itself an entry level list, because the likeliness of enjoying it is so high.
Also just because it's well known doesn't mean that everyone has watched it. Cowboy Bebop is entry-level as fuck and very well known, that does not mean there aren't literally millions (billions technically) of people out there that haven't heard of it.
As long as it stands out the best, vote for it and don't give a fuck about anything else, that's just going against the point of the OP, and the reason you should vote.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;46419159]It's hard for me to choose only 3 and most of the time i end up choosing edgy deep hipster anime that nobody else chooses which essentially just throws my vote away. i recommend them because i feel that literally everyone could enjoy them, but when nobody else has seen them yet nobody else will vote for them. it's like what reds was talking about the fantasy category earlier (although i still think 12 kingdoms would be a bad choice, but that's my opinion and i've actually seen it so it's my choice), they're good shows and most people would enjoy them but because they're super hipster or people's 3 slots were already taken up by other shows they couldn't vote for them.
back when shinsekai yori first aired and not many people watched it yet, i really wanted everybody to watch it; so anytime someone asked for a recommendation for something to watch i always [i]shoved[/i] it down everyone's throats proclaiming how amazing it is at every opportunity. now it's in pretty much every category slot with multiple people trying to defend it in every slot without me having to even vote for it. that also happened to some extent with jinrui & haibane renmei.
i'd say i already fucked up the system plenty so letting my votes go to a random coin toss due to how limited my slots are couldn't hurt it much more tbh[/QUOTE]
*boo hoo* not everyone else have seen what I have seen. Just by voting for it you can pique somebody elses interest in it when they check peoples votes and the vote result list. On top of that if you think it's so great, surely you're going to recommend it to others in the thread, and then maybe by next time people will start voting for it. Just look at the amount of shows that only have 1 vote in all of the categories, you're far from the only one.
If you don't vote for the fantastic show nobody else has seen, then who will? And if you don't acknowledge it's existence, how will we?
It's like people that don't vote for the elections because "my vote won't change anything anyways", well, surely not if you take that attitude.
If I see you voting for Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan next time in WTF I will automatically reject your vote for being voted for the wrong reason, for not being your personal best, but rather influenced by other peoples votes, trying to get shows in the OP. It's just an underhanded method trying to "cheat the system" to fulfill your own "agenda".
It would be like me giving Aku no Hana an extra vote just because I personally wanted it in the OP. If people didn't think it qualified as the best in the genre they didn't and that's that, too bad for me, whoopdedoo, maybe next time.
Goddamn this week's Chaika was hype as fuck.
Haha, here is another one I forgot.
[B]Cpl.Shepherd[/B]
Bakemonogatari and Monogatari Series: Second Season is like voting for Bakemono and Bakemono.
You will have to replace your S2 vote or withdraw it.
[editline]jizz[/editline]
I found a function that counts the amount of commas in a table, so now all the amount of votes are correct, about 4-5 shows were incorrectly counted, when I finish going over everyones votes (just 4 left) I just have to fix any instance of duplicate shows (if any) on the list and merge those votes.
The people that have to change or withdraw their votes have until Friday to do so, that's when the votes will be final.
Give me another link to the spreadsheet, I need to see how shit-tier Fantasy is turning out and I can't be fucked crawling through the previous pages.
[QUOTE=Reds;46419882]Give me another link to the spreadsheet, I need to see how shit-tier Fantasy is turning out and I can't be fucked crawling through the previous pages.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgdYRqGwIvawdFFIXzkxcTBoNmNIdmNsZVd6RXl3Mnc#gid=0[/url]
[QUOTE=dgg;46419460]Haha, here is another one I forgot.
[B]Cpl.Shepherd[/B]
Bakemonogatari and Monogatari Series: Second Season is like voting for Bakemono and Bakemono.
You will have to replace your S2 vote or withdraw it.
[editline]jizz[/editline]
I found a function that counts the amount of commas in a table, so now all the amount of votes are correct, about 4-5 shows were incorrectly counted, when I finish going over everyones votes (just 4 left) I just have to fix any instance of duplicate shows (if any) on the list and merge those votes.
The people that have to change or withdraw their votes have until Friday to do so, that's when the votes will be final.[/QUOTE]
I shall withdraw my vote
[QUOTE=Die_Hard;46419894][url]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgdYRqGwIvawdFFIXzkxcTBoNmNIdmNsZVd6RXl3Mnc#gid=0[/url][/QUOTE]
Damn, one more vote and Berserk could've had a shot at headlining.
[QUOTE=Reds;46419957]Damn, one more vote and Berserk could've had a shot at headlining.[/QUOTE]
Isn't the berserk anime awful though?
There we go, the [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgdYRqGwIvawdFFIXzkxcTBoNmNIdmNsZVd6RXl3Mnc&usp=sharing]votes are tallyed up[/url], all that's left now is for the people that have had their vote pointed out as not belonging or being questionable to make a new vote, withdraw their vote or where possible, tell me why it belongs.
The deadline to change, justify or withdraw the following votes is this friday.
The people are:
[code]Adnap
Drama - Ping Pong (Undiscussable, revote or withdraw)
Reds
Drama - Ping Pong (Undiscussable, revote or withdraw)
Maxumym
Drama - Ping Pong (Undiscussable, revote or withdraw)
Matrix374
Competitive - Bakuman (Undiscussable, revote or withdraw)
igamiwarr
Drama - Psycho Pass (Undiscussable, revote or withdraw)
OldAverageJoe
Thriller - Black Jack
Kidd
Thriller - Hamatora
Ashxu
Thriller - Initial D[/code]
[QUOTE=Adnap;46419147]Okay... move my ping pong vote to competitive in that case.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;46419966]Isn't the berserk anime awful though?[/QUOTE]
I watched it and it was actually extremely good. Its main problem is that it removes a couple of characters, one minor, and one vital to the plot post-Golden Age, so the story gets to the climax of the Golden Age arc and just sort of stops because they don't have the character that would allow it to keep going past episode 26.
[QUOTE=Adnap;46419992][/QUOTE]
Haha, too busy discussing and fixing the vote to notice that post. Righto, you haven't voted for anything there and it stays valid for the same reason as drama, so that works well.
[editline]haumpghe[/editline]
There we go, the [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgdYRqGwIvawdFFIXzkxcTBoNmNIdmNsZVd6RXl3Mnc&usp=sharing]votes are tallyed up[/url], all that's left now is for the people that have had their vote pointed out as not belonging or being questionable to make a new vote, withdraw their vote or where possible, tell me why it belongs.
The deadline to change, justify or withdraw the following votes is this friday.
The people are:
[code]Matrix374
Competitive - Bakuman (Undiscussable, revote or withdraw)
OldAverageJoe
Thriller - Black Jack
Kidd
Thriller - Hamatora[/code]
[QUOTE=Reds;46420002]I watched it and it was actually extremely good. Its main problem is that it removes a couple of characters, one minor, and one vital to the plot post-Golden Age, so the story gets to the climax of the Golden Age arc and just sort of stops because they don't have the character that would allow it to keep going past episode 26.[/QUOTE]
Oh okay, fair enough then.
EDIT: How the fuck is madoka not solidly in any top 3. Should have voted for it in psychological.
If I had to pick just one thing out of my nominations to make it into the headliners it'd be Berserk, really. Very good entry-level show, lots of appeal to somebody getting into anime, and it's an adaption of a long-running popular manga to boot.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;46420015]Oh okay, fair enough then.
EDIT: How the fuck is madoka not solidly in any top 3. Should have voted for it in psychological.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, because Madoka is [B]such[/B] a great psychological show. :rolleyes:
It's like the Higurashi votes for psychological. "PEOPLE SCREAM AND THEY GO INSANE AND SHIT! POOR TORTURED SOULS"
[QUOTE=dgg;46420030]Yeah, because Madoka is [B]such[/B] a great psychological show. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
[sp]that's why I didn't vote for it under that category[/sp]
EDIT: people think s;g is psychological. Like I don't even know anymore.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;46420035][sp]that's why I didn't vote for it under that category[/sp][/QUOTE]
And that's why I still like you.
But that's a lie, I like you because you also voted for Mind Game.
Speaking of dgg's opinions and biases, let's have a look at that poll.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/nlYYcN1.png[/img]
Yep, Ping Pong sure doesn't belong in drama.
[editline]6th November 2014[/editline]
dgg thinks that democracy is dumb, confirmed.
[QUOTE=Reds;46420043]dgg thinks that democracy is dumb, confirmed.[/QUOTE]
No, I value facts over opinions.
[QUOTE=Charm6000;46418493][URL="http://i.imgur.com/1qfZFoh.jpg"]saki is about mahjong, honest (chapter 133 spoilers)[/URL]
[sp]nodoka getting shot down in Nodocchi mode, finally[/sp][/QUOTE]
I knew [sp]Megan would save that snoozefest of a matchup. Also that automatic rifle in the last shot just makes me want to scream USA USA USA[/sp]
Also I'm glad I have a fallback solution for my competitive: Can you move Kaiji from competitive to thriller and have ping pong take its place there, dgg? Is that allowed?
[QUOTE=dgg;46420055]No, I value facts over opinions.[/QUOTE]
Since when was sportsdrama a fact? Your argument is completely based on your own damn opinion that somehow manages to claim that Ping Pong is drama but that doesn't count because sports. I sure value "facts" as incoherent and ridiculous that.
But I don't think anybody wants us to get back into this.
[editline]6th November 2014[/editline]
And no, I don't want you to attempt to explain yourself again. The stick is so far up your ass it has become a natural part of your body.
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