About the non existence, yeah, I thinks thats true. You die, and that's that. End of the line.
[QUOTE=Kevincs316;19255661]That's really foolish, and simple minded. Open your eyes bro!
Ok, look at it like this.. Would you rather think that after death, nothing? Or believe that there is a higher power that loves you SO MUCH as to die a fucking terrible death for you. Listen, I dunno bout' you, but I wanna be loved xD. Plus, there's evidence all around us![/QUOTE]
I should be loved by God regardless of whether or not I acknowledge him.
[QUOTE=johanz;19255644]Animals develop religious feeling to their owners. If you're good to them, you're their god.[/QUOTE]
So what if you were a snail? Then what would you have to do? :X
Kids arguing about religion as if they were high classed scientists.
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;19255736]I should be loved by God regardless of whether or not I acknowledge him.[/QUOTE]
Who the hell is teaching you those things
[QUOTE=OLLIE!;19255738]So what if you were a snail? Then what would you have to do? :X[/QUOTE]
Salt, before it gains intelligence.
Nobody is ever dead so as long as someone remembers them :eng101:
[QUOTE=BrQ;19255752]Who the hell is teaching you those things[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry I don't follow this shit by the book.
I listened to a podcast that relates to this subject:
[url]http://podcast.com/episode/47791369/68331/[/url]
It's about near death experiences, though it talks about this woman who had memories of a brain surgery in which the blood was drained from her brain, she was able to remember things like the bonesaw and the face of a surgeon who was in the room (Who wasn't previously seen). My guess is that you would be dreaming of sorts... Though then that brings up the question of what happens when you're incinerated...
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;19255736]I should be loved by God regardless of whether or not I acknowledge him.[/QUOTE]
He does, He loves your very much. Which is why he died for your sins. Except he made it so that you have to trust in him, He wants you to give him your full attention.
Don't give a shit, I believe in reincarnation
Humans are creatures like anything else. If mice die, they just turn into rotting corpses with no brain function. This is what happens when you die. Heaven etc. is just the effect of your brain dying. Since you're dead you can't really imagine anything else. You just die. We're organic creatures, not some sort of special beings. Being intelligent beings is just pure-ass luck.
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;19255762]I'm sorry I don't follow this shit by the book.[/QUOTE]
Well stop saying such stupid things then
[QUOTE=BrQ;19255783]Well stop saying such stupid things then[/QUOTE]
It's stupid because it goes against you.
[QUOTE=benjgvps;19255767]I listened to a podcast that relates to this subject:
[url]http://podcast.com/episode/47791369/68331/[/url]
It's about near death experiences, though it talks about this woman who had memories of a brain surgery in which the blood was drained from her brain, she was able to remember things like the bonesaw and the face of a surgeon who was in the room (Who wasn't previously seen). My guess is that you would be dreaming of sorts... Though then that brings up the question of what happens when you're incinerated...[/QUOTE]
I do believe a giant stockload of dmt releases when you die.
[QUOTE=Kevincs316;19255768]He does, He loves your very much. Which is why he died for your sins. Except he made it so that you have to trust in him, He wants you to give him your full attention.[/QUOTE]
Wow, hes so selfish. why cant he just accept us all. he burns people in hell for eternity for trivial things. how can you call him a just and rightful god? Also satan never lied, and killed only a few people compared to the millions that god did directly.
[QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19255770]Don't give a shit, I believe in reincarnation[/QUOTE]
Yeah mang, deism all the way
[QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19255790]I do believe a giant stockload of dmt releases when you die.[/QUOTE]
This man speaks the truth.
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;19255788]It's stupid because it goes against you.[/QUOTE]
No, it's stupid because you're making things up.
Plus I'm not a Christian.
I realised a long time ago that worrying about death is pointless, everyone eventually dies thus it's stupid worrying about the inevitable, just make the most of your life :).
I also view beliefs about afterlives even more illogical than beliefs about how the universe came into existence etc, because death isn't some magical and unknown thing that has no science behind it. We can empirically measure the effects of death; your cells dying, brain activity ceasing, your corpse rotting etc etc, it's all measurable. There is no magical energy transfer to a higher plane going on, if there was then it would be a measurable effect.
[QUOTE=BrQ;19255815]No, it's stupid because you're making things up.
Plus I'm not a Christian.[/QUOTE]
What exactly am I making up?
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19255800]Wow, hes so selfish. why cant he just accept us all. he burns people in hell for eternity for trivial things. how can you call him a just and rightful god? Also satan never lied, and killed only a few people compared to the millions that god did directly.[/QUOTE]
He's not selfish, but he is jealous. And he burns people in hell because we deserve it. I deserve hell, you deserve hell, Hitler definitely deserves hell...
[QUOTE=KestasLT;19255806]Yeah mang, deism all the way[/QUOTE]
I don't confine my self to one religion,
I just base conclusions on what I believe is real.
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19255726]And thus science comes along.[/QUOTE]
4. An inteligent Human comes along and explains the amazing thing using science;
5. The religious human refuses to belive in this cientific explanation since hes religious delusion is so big that we can no longer take conclusions from facts.
(thanks Sparkwire)
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19255800]Wow, hes so selfish. why cant he just accept us all. he burns people in hell for eternity for trivial things. how can you call him a just and rightful god? Also satan never lied, and killed only a few people compared to the millions that god did directly.[/QUOTE]
"accept us all"
There are people in this world who rape woman/kill other men/molest children/and other evil acts.. Should he accept them also?
[QUOTE=Kevincs316;19255845]He's not selfish, but he is jealous. And he burns people in hell because we deserve it. I deserve hell, you deserve hell, Hitler definitely deserves hell...[/QUOTE]
Why do we DESERVE hell? Why should we be punished for stuff we did when we didnt even ask to be created in the first place? Also by god letting satan be around he is indirectly condemning people to hell.
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And yes, he should.
I wish i was a jellyfish, then, i would have biological immoratity.
Science was made by God therefore religion wins.
Who ever said we DESERVE hell? Hell was made up to keep people from going against society.
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[QUOTE=Dyson6;19255888]Science was made by God therefore religion wins.[/QUOTE]
Then why does science argue against god?
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19255870]Why do we DESERVE hell? Why should we be punished for stuff we did when we didnt even ask to be created in the first place? Also by god letting satan be around he is indirectly condemning people to hell.
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And yes, he should.[/QUOTE]
Just wait, Satan will be eliminated, along with everyone else that refuses Jesus. Fact is, God wanted people. he made people, and he does whatever the fuck he wants with said people. In this case, said people didnt listen to him, now they become imperfect, so now he has to make them perfect. But he has to make something that will take the burden of sin, which Jesus did.
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