Wow, you've been making a lot of threads lately.
It doesn't bother me, being in the army n' stuff.
[QUOTE=Kevincs316;19255768]He does, He loves your very much. Which is why he died for your sins. Except he made it so that you have to trust in him, He wants you to give him your full attention.[/QUOTE]
God didn't die for your sins. Jesus, his fake messiahs, did.
[QUOTE=Kevincs316;19255910]Just wait, Satan will be eliminated, along with everyone else that refuses Jesus. Fact is, God wanted people. he made people, and he does whatever the fuck he wants with said people. In this case, said people didnt listen to him, now they become imperfect, so now he has to make them perfect. But he has to make something that will take the burden of sin, which Jesus did.[/QUOTE]
God is an asshole. I think god should go to hell forever. just becuase he made us doesnt mean he gets complete control over us. go read Frankenstein or something.
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19255889]Who ever said we DESERVE hell? Hell was made up to keep people from going against society.
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Then why does science argue against god?[/QUOTE]
Because people are silly.
[QUOTE=Cowie1337;19255379]And honestly if you guys aren't sure about which God/Gods are right. WHY NOT PRAY TO ALL OF THEM?!?!?!? It'll take awhile but you'll get into whatever place doesn't roast your nipples fo sho[/QUOTE]
There are certain defenses certain religions have against "praying to everyone".
Ever hear of the 2nd commandment in Catholicism? And Shitology has that stupid claim about how the "thetans" were forced to watch shit, so you'd still rot in "thetan hell" or whatever shit they have, etc., etc.
[QUOTE=Destroyertf;19255914]God didn't die for your sins. Jesus, his fake messiahs, did.[/QUOTE]
This is the part that takes faith, God is Jesus, and Jesus is God. We as humans have never seen anything on earth that does that. But, God being the awesome creator, can do what we think is impossible.
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19255889]Then why does science argue against god?[/QUOTE]
God exists, but this cannot be demonstrated nor refuted.
If God could rationally be proven, his existence would be unimportant to humans. It is because God cannot rationally be proven that his existence is important to us. In The Justification of Knowledge, the Calvinist theologian Robert L. Reymond argues that believers should not attempt to prove the existence of God.
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;19255830]What exactly am I making up?[/QUOTE]
[quote]I should be loved by God regardless of whether or not I acknowledge him. [/quote]
[quote]If God is real, and truly loves me. He'd forgive me for being a good person, not because I chose to pray to him to get into heaven. [/quote]
[quote][b]I'm sorry I don't follow this shit by the book.[/b] [/quote]
that
the last quote shows how much you know about it
It actually doesn't bother me much anymore. People who grieve over death actually bother me more than death itself.
[QUOTE=Scoooooby;19254863]It happens.
Nobody wants to die, but that isn't our decision.[/QUOTE]
I want to die. Living forever on Earth would be a bit boring.
[QUOTE=BrQ;19255953]that
the last quote shows how much you know about it[/QUOTE]
Am I bad for having my own personal opinion?
[QUOTE=OLLIE!;19255949]God exists, but this cannot be demonstrated nor refuted.
If God could rationally be proven, his existence would be unimportant to humans. It is because God cannot rationally be proven that his existence is important to us. In The Justification of Knowledge, the Calvinist theologian Robert L. Reymond argues that believers should not attempt to prove the existence of God.[/QUOTE]
So hes only important because hes not real, right?
also i lol at the religious people disagreeing and dumbing everyone that has legitimate arguments that don't go with what they believe.
afterlife is the idea that the consciousness or mind of a being continues after physical death occurs.
And consciousness is a mystery to modern science
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;19255968]Am I bad for having my own personal opinion?[/QUOTE]
Go read it again goddamnit
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;19255968]Am I bad for having my own personal opinion?[/QUOTE]
No, but you seem to hate everyone else with different opinions.
[QUOTE=BrQ;19255983]Go read it again goddamnit[/QUOTE]
I did. I'm asking is it bad that I have my own opinion.
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[QUOTE=altofproudfoot;19255996]No, but you seem to hate everyone else with different opinions.[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to come off as that, I'm simply stating my opinion. I respect others.
[QUOTE=OLLIE!;19255949]God exists, but this cannot be demonstrated nor refuted.
If God could rationally be proven, his existence would be unimportant to humans. It is because God cannot rationally be proven that his existence is important to us. In The Justification of Knowledge, the Calvinist theologian Robert L. Reymond argues that believers should not attempt to prove the existence of God.[/QUOTE]
Well, no human can prove either argument, man cannot prove God, and man cannot disprove God,
It's really a faith thing, and when you do come to the point where you realize the truth, believe me, you KNOW it's true. That's the only way one can prove God, but only to himself. You really must come to that point where you just say, "well, if God's out there, come show yourself" and believe me, he will.
Death itself doesn't really scare me. It's more the fact that I'll be leaving my family and loved ones.
What scares me more than that is someone really close to me dying. Just the idea of not being able to talk to them casually about random pointless shit upsets the crap outta me.
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19255969]So hes only important because hes not real, right?[/QUOTE]
Bible states, "Fix your eyes not on what is seen, but what is unseen" and "live by faith not by sight." So those who refuse to see by faith, will not see God. You may not be able to see the wind, but you can feel its effects.
So stop arguing like you know what death is
you don't, not even the smartest scientist does.
Religion is fabrication made to humans. If I were a king in the 16th century, I would love that my people were religious, as they wouldn't kill each other, since they are afraid of going to hell.
Religion is the perfect tool for the afraid and for the leaders.
[QUOTE=OLLIE!;19256035]Bible states, "Fix your eyes not on what is seen, but what is unseen" and "live by faith not by sight." So those who refuse to see by faith, will not see God. You may not be able to see the wind, but you can feel its effects.[/QUOTE]
So basically follow something blindly and you'll be right?
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;19256013]I respect others.[/QUOTE]
You don't respect furries ;(
[QUOTE=Daolpu;19254877]Remember what it was like before you were born?
Exactly.[/QUOTE]
That's not what he was asking dumbass.
I'm not scared of death at all but I am scared of what my death will put my family through.
[b]Flame War![/b]
[QUOTE=Kevincs316;19256057]You don't respect furries ;([/QUOTE]
I don't mind furries, they can be quite humorous.
[QUOTE=Dyson6;19255888]Science was made by God therefore religion wins.[/QUOTE]
:geno:
I honestly can't think of enough words to make fun of you.
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[QUOTE=OLLIE!;19256035]Bible states, "Fix your eyes not on what is seen, but what is unseen" and "live by faith not by sight." So those who refuse to see by faith, will not see God. You may not be able to see the wind, but you can feel its effects.[/QUOTE]
So you're telling me I should blindly accept that everything observable and able to measured is wrong, because it doesn't require faith?
And if God loves everyone, why does the bible say people go to hell for not believing in him? That seems like kind of a dick move if cheery Granny Wilfred who bakes cookies for the local orphanage and knits sweaters for homeless kittens and has never hurt anyone in her life could burn for eternity because she was a nonbeliever.
[QUOTE=OLLIE!;19255949]God exists, but this cannot be demonstrated nor refuted. [/QUOTE]
Then you cannot say God exists.
[QUOTE=OLLIE!;19255949]If God could rationally be proven, his existence would be unimportant to humans. It is because God cannot rationally be proven that his existence is important to us.[/QUOTE]
Bullshit, if a supernatural intelligent entity that created the universe could be demonstrated that would completely flip the world upside down and demolish probably all current religions. God not being rationally proven at present doesn't make its possible existence important, the same way our inability to prove unicorns doesn't make them any more important than if they really did exist.
[QUOTE=OLLIE!;19255949]In The Justification of Knowledge, the Calvinist theologian Robert L. Reymond argues that believers should not attempt to prove the existence of God.[/QUOTE]
Then believers should also not tell anyone they believe one exists, doing so instantly gives them the burden of proof.
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;19256013]I did. I'm asking is it bad that I have my own opinion.
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Say whatever you want, but the thing you just said is wrong. You're saying that you should be loved and forgiven by God, whether you actually believe in him or not. That's wrong. I never said that it's bad to give your opinion.
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